.22/30-30 Sabot Reloading?

[antlery]

i was wondering if anyone had bought one of the kits from Eabco that you can reload .22 caliber bullets in .30 caliber cartridges. I was thinking of trying with my 30-30 Contender Carbine. I also have a supply of 55 grain .22 caliber bullets and nothing to shoot them in right now. Any information or experience would be appreciated.

[woodchukhntr]

I've also had a bunch of .22 sabots that I want to shoot in my Savage 24V and need some loads.

[Ranch13]

I bought some of the sabots from J&D components out of Utah, about 20 years ago. I mess with them every once in awhile for something to do. So far the best results have come in the 30-30,I think mostly due to matching the bullet with the twist.
 I never could get a "group" from the 30-06 they would string verticaly about 8 inches at 100 yds.
 The 308's show a little tendancy to maybe get along with them, maybe with some serious sitdown loadwork up something would work out.
The best I got out the 30-30 would be a halfway decent varmint round, could get down to around 2 inches at 100, and when using the Winchester bulk 46 gr hp bullets, I wouldn't hestitate to load a magazine full.
 Treat them much the same as loading cast bullets, flaring the case, varying crimps,seating depths etc.

[Lloyd Smale]

trick to it is you have to kick them in the but. If you use the standard powder charges recomended for a 150 grain 3030 accuracy will be dismal. there just not fast enough to stablize.  I had load data for them but lost it when my barn burned but the charges i used would scare a normal 3030 loader. Keep in mind something else. the 3030 even factory  loaded and with the loads given in the loading manuals is downloaded to begin with compared to other rounds used in a 94 or 336. Another thing that amazed me when i was doing this project was how much differnt bullets effected accuracy. I would have guessed because they were in sabots and not even touching the rifling it would make as much of a differnce but the oposite was true. If anything changing bullets brands and weights changed group size even more then it normaly would. Bottom line is when i was done i had the old 336adl shooting about 1 1/4 at velocitys that were in the 22250s league or at least close. this takes alot of work though. If you grab some ball bullets and a generic load dont expect much better then 3 inch loads.

[Catfish]

I have a couple of friends that plaied with them years ago. 1 of them tried them in 30-30, 308 and 30-06 with accuracy barily good enough to hit a ground at 100 yrds. I bought a bunch of sabots, but after seeing what they were getting never messed with they.

[Ranch13]

 I'm fairly well convinced that another big contributing factor to any success with the sabots, is the condition of the chamber throat. A rifle that has alot of rounds thru it, and the varying stages of throat erosion won't do as well as one with a more "pristine" chamber.
The saboted round is pretty short and in the standard throat has a lot of "freebore" to cover before it engages the rifling. So the better condition the throat is in the smoother the start the sabot gets into the rifling the better the chance of accuracy.
 A really thorough cleaning of your rifles bore to remove any copper or lead fouling before starting helps alot.

[res45]

I shoot them out of my Chinese SKS  but not the Yugo which has the muzzle brake those are suppose to be a no-no.  Accuracy is good enough at 50 yds. for pop can accuracy opens up to about 4" at 100 yds. would probably shoot more accurately if not designed for .308 dia. bores.   I need to get some more sabot,I split my batch with my brother and I've shot all of mine up.  They loaded and cycles through the rifle just as good as any other ammo.

Sabot load data http://www.eabco.com/Reports/report04.html