New gun co ad compares obama to hitler and stalin.

[powderman]

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New Gun Company Advertisement Compares Obama to Hitler, Stalin

December 1, 2011 11:36 AM


Photo of the USAAmmo advertisement. (credit: www.usaammo.com)


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WASHINGTON, D.C. (CBS Washington) — A gun company advertisement that warns of impending gun control compares President Obama to Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin.
The USAAmmo ad shows side-by-side pictures of Obama with Hitler, Stalin and other dictators who committed atrocities across the world. The ad, which is also accompanied by a video, warns that gun control is imminent and foreshadows that the U.S. could face millions in casualties if they are not allowed to defend themselves.
USAAmmo states that “tyranny is knocking down the doors of American cities daily” and that Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder and other gun control advocates “are secretly conspiring American Citizens of the right to bear arms.”
Trace Williams, director of operations for USAAmmo, defended the ad that was emailed Monday. He told CBS Washington that “Obama and his various czars are infringing on the rights of Americans to own guns.” 

[crustylicious]

They should put his picture next to Billy Mays. Gun and ammo sales set records after he was elected.

[powderman]

They should put his picture next to Billy Mays. Gun and ammo sales set records after he was elected.

 
Got to admit it, obummer has given the firearms and ammo business a huge boost. Hmmmm, wonder why?? Real hard to figure out, hmmmmmm. Everybody knows how important our rights are to him. POWDERMAN. 

[jcn59]

Why?   I read that G. Soros is a major stockholder (owns?) the conglomerate (that owns the Freedom Group) that bought out Marlin, Remington, Thompson Center, etc., etc..
 
I have not confirmed this.   Others here certainly have read the same thing.  Did I get it right?

[OldSchoolRanger]

They should put his picture next to Billy Mays. Gun and ammo sales set records after he was elected.

Guns and ammo sales set records after he was elected because, everyone was afraid that Obama would immediately start to restrict the ownership of firearms.
 
As far as putting his picture next to Billy Mays, I agree, Obama can sell snake oil with the best of them.  He proved it by snookering most of the American electorate.

But back to the subject, I believe the caption on the ad should read something like; "All in favor of Gun Control, raise your hand".

[jcn59]

He must have been appointed, not elected.  Bilderberg Group maybe?   I haven't found anyone who says they voted for him yet.

[mdwest]

Why?   I read that G. Soros is a major stockholder (owns?) the conglomerate (that owns the Freedom Group) that bought out Marlin, Remington, Thompson Center, etc., etc..
 
I have not confirmed this.   Others here certainly have read the same thing.  Did I get it right?

Incorrect..
 
Freedom Group is owned by Cerberus Capitol Corp.. which is majority owned by Stephen Feinberg, an EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE, former army officer, billionaire..
 
The CEO of Cerberus is John Snow (Tresury Secretary under G.W. Bush). Dan Quayle is on their board of directors.
 
Soros has no relationship with them at all..
 
 

[mdwest]

no doubt about it.. they are certainly global capitalists..
 
they compete directly with Warren Buffet and Berkshire Hathaway and compete with George Soros however.. they arent connected with either of them in any way (word is Fienberg and Buffet even have a sincere dislike for each other)..
 
In addition to owning Freedom Group.. Cerberus owned at one time a huge chunk of mortgage/banking business (GE Capital), a huge chunk of the auto industry (Chrysler), and a pretty nice chunk of the defense contracting industry (DynCorp and several assorted smaller companies)..
 

[jcn59]

Well, I hope you are right.   There is still something smelly about Cerberus.  I don't care enough to research it.  It makes me nervous when one "company" buys out the firearms manufacturing business here.  It should make you nervous, too.

Thanks for looking into this.

[mdwest]

Well, I hope you are right.   There is still something smelly about Cerberus.  I don't care enough to research it.  It makes me nervous when one "company" buys out the firearms manufacturing business here.  It should make you nervous, too.

Thanks for looking into this.

Do some reading on Fienberg.. he isnt buying up gun companies because he wants to get rid of them...
 
he is buying up gun companies.. because he loves guns.. (and obviously sees them as a good business opportunity.. many gun companies have done very poorly financially over the past couple of decades.. they can be bought cheap.. and if he can manage them well and bring them back into the black.. he can make a ton of money.. all the while supporting something he has personal interest in)..
 
Feinberg fancies himself as a serious patriot.. and a red blooded american.. he is big time into rodeos, cowboy shooting, etc.. as well.. in his personal life he is the anti-Soros and anti-Buffet..
 
 

[andy1300]

Your Bush is alot closer to Hitler, then Obama ever will be.

[subdjoe]

Your Bush is alot closer to Hitler, then Obama ever will be.

Care to expand on that with some facts?  Or are you just going to toss a grenade and run away?

[mcwoodduck]

It all started with Eric Holder, Atny Gen.
Who said they may have a right to fire arms but no one says they have a right to bullets.
Obama has tried my treaty to eliminate gun owership with UN accords.
I think you will see exucitive orders about firearms come out if Obama is defeated in 2012 and a turn in on the order of Australia where only single shot fire arms were allowed and millions of firearms were destroyed and little was paid for them.

[powderman]

Your Bush is alot closer to Hitler, then Obama ever will be.

 
andy. I really hate to be the one to point it out to you but president Bush hasn't been president for almost 3 years now, your illegal kenyan is, sorry to say. POWDERMAN. 

[mcwoodduck]

If you look at he poster.
Other than Obama, It shows leaders that all killed any opposition to them, One even ate one of his enemies.  WIth the out bursts we hear from the Left killing is not out of the question for them.  Alec Balwin called for a mob to attack the special prosicuter for Clinton.
We have books about how to kill Bush and Palin written by the leftists. 
If they gain total control and create the police state they want, camps are not far behind.

[yellowtail3]

Your Bush is alot closer to Hitler, then Obama ever will be.

Care to expand on that with some facts?  Or are you just going to toss a grenade and run away?

I'll not expand, but the idea that Obama belongs with the others pictured is ludicrous. I understand it appeals to dimbulbs, racists, the uninformed & some political ideologues... but it's just so much hooey. You know that already, rigth?

[subdjoe]

Your Bush is alot closer to Hitler, then Obama ever will be.

Care to expand on that with some facts?  Or are you just going to toss a grenade and run away?

I'll not expand, but the idea that Obama belongs with the others pictured is ludicrous. I understand it appeals to dimbulbs, racists, the uninformed & some political ideologues... but it's just so much hooey. You know that already, rigth?

Ah, your turn to just toss jingoist grenades.  Can you back up your claims?  Especially the ever popular, ubiquitous "racists" label?

[jcn59]

I've seen 55 years of presidential elections.  Obama is the worst president in all those years.  I'm old enough, as are many of our contributors, that I don't have to prove it to anyone.   If anyone needs "proof" they are not worth an explanation, and I certainly won't waste my time on them.  Maybe you shouldn't either......

[andy1300]

Hitler killed and tortured hunderds of thousands of inncent men women and children, after 911 Bush instead of going after
Osama Bin Laden and all those jihdists terrorists he bombed Iraq city where killed tens of thousand of innocent
women and children just trying be make a living, then Bush approved of doing torture.
never in my life time I ever heard of the USA of ever approving of doing torture !! and you demise all of this.

[kevinsmith5]

Andy- care to provide actual evidence of the deaths if tens of thousands of civilians from US bombings? And if you think we didn't go after Osama, you musta missed him hiding out in the mountains of Pakistan after we ran him out if Afghanistan. Seriously, read some actual history instead of the bloggers on HuffPo.

[andy1300]

Yea right , who got there head in the sand now, you guys will never change.

[subdjoe]

Yea right , who got there head in the sand now, you guys will never change.

Ah, yes, most excellent proof of your claims.

[mdwest]

never in my life time I ever heard of the USA of ever approving of doing torture !!

you apparently dont know much about American History, or the changing definition of torture over the ages..
 
 

[magooch]

That's an easy one; how do you breath with your head buried anyway--Andy?

[mdwest]

I have heard that we executed several Japanese war ciminals after WWI, and that waterboarding was AMONG the things they were charged with.. I have never heard that a Japanese war criminal was hung (this is how they were all executed I believe..) specifically for water boarding, or water boarding only..
 
All of that is hearsay on my part however.. I have never looked into other than to hear Sen. John McCain speak about it once or twice.. and have never been presented any documented evidence that this actually took place (not saying it didnt happen.. Im willing to bet that it did.. just saying I have never looked into it, and never came across anything that substantiated it)..
 
Iraqi casualty figures listed are a bit of a misnomer..
 
Have we taken actions that have resulted in the death of Iraqi civilans? Absolutely.. Civilians die in war.. thats a fact..
 
Have 1M+ Iraqi's died as a direct result of US or coalition forces actions.. no.. thats not an accurate statement..
 
1M+ is quite a stretch.. most studies dont belive the number is nearly that high..
 
and a large sum of the civilian deaths have been caused by the direct, and intentional action of the insurgents... not by US or coalition forces..
 
I specifically recall a bomb that was set of on the 14 July Bridge in Baghdad that I had passed over less than 5 minutes before it was set off in 2004..
 
Instead of killing US troops.. the bomb killed about 60 Iraqi civilians standing in line on the bridge waiting to enter the Green Zone to go to work.. I think it injured another 100+.. the bomb was intended to discourage civilians from supporting the coalition forces in the GZ..
 
that is one of litterally thousands of similar stories..
 
the different factions in Iraq have been killing each other by the hundreds monthly since Saddam lost power.. and will continue to do so long after we are gone..
 
for every IED you hear about hitting a US military target.. there are easily 10 or more that are used to target Iraqi civilians that you never hear about, because no one over here thinks that it is newsworthy when 5 Iraqis, to include a mother and 3 kids are all killed in an explosion..
 
If anything we have gone WAY out of our way to avoid killing civilians.. often at the risk of our own troops..
 
When we re-took Falujah in 2004, we dropped leaflets in the city for over a week prior to moving the Marines in, letting everyone know we were coming and advising non combatants to leave the city.. (this obviously let the bad guys know we were coming well in advance)..
 
 
 

[jcn59]

I used to hear stories in the Viet Nam era about taking 2 vietcong up in a helicopter  & asking one some questions and when he refused to answer, they kicked him out of the plane.  The next VC became anxious to cooperate then.

That was a simple interrogation technique, necessary to survival.   It pukes me to hear a bunch of pantywastes taking the interrogation out of the context of war, and then pontificating the ethics of it all.   Pussys, all of them.  Send them into a POW camp and see if they can talk their captors out of a beheading.  The downfall of America is at your doorsteps and here I read idle chatter about "what's fair".  Where have all the soldiers gone......?

[yellowtail3]

I used to hear stories in the Viet Nam era about taking 2 vietcong up in a helicopter  & asking one some questions and when he refused to answer, they kicked him out of the plane.  The next VC became anxious to cooperate then.

Well, there was a lot of shameful behavior of the part of US forces on their way to killling a million or so Vietnamese (that just loses inflicted on the North by US forces) in a war started by the US, thousands of miles from our shores, against people who were no threat to us. Not sure I'd use that as the template for wisdom.

It pukes me to hear a bunch of pantywastes taking the interrogation out of the context of war, and then pontificating the ethics of it all.   Pussys, all of them.  Send them into a POW camp and see if they can talk their captors out of a beheading.  The downfall of America is at your doorsteps and here I read idle chatter about "what's fair".  Where have all the soldiers gone......?

Senator (formerly Captain, USN) McCain opposed use of torture by US forces... does that make him pantywaist and a pussy for that, in your view?
 
Perhaps you think it takes a real man to torture others when holding the upper hand. The Einsatzgruppen and SS were full of real men...

[jcn59]

I spelled it "pantywaste" intentionally.   McCain?  The one who runs as a republican sometimes and sometimes as a democrat?   THAT  McCain?   Have you followed his antics in the past few years?

[yellowtail3]

I spelled it "pantywaste" intentionally.   

The distinction is lost on me - explain it, please? 'Pantywaste' vs 'Pantywaist'?
 

McCain?  The one who runs as a republican sometimes and sometimes as a democrat?   THAT  McCain?

Sen. McCain has always been a Repub, so far as I know. And yes, that McCain is who I'm talking about - the retired O-6 who opposes torture, and who has a great deal more experience in that area (as recipient) than any armchair warriors or internet tough guys around here.

Have you followed his antics in the past few years?

Not particularly closely; I did vote for him in 2008 (not in 2000, though).
 
 

[jcn59]

McCain ran as a democrat in the 2000 primaries. 

He was a pilot and I don't think he saw much of the war on the ground until he was shot down.  He suffered far more than any man should have to after his capture.  This is the nature of war.   You cannot sanitize it.  Senator McCain is a man who opposes torture and he has good reason for feeling that way.  It doesn't mean he's right.  It just means he has an opinion, like everyone is ENTITLED TO HAVE.  I've never heard a politician who wouldn't say whatever he had to to get votes.  And I voted for him in 08 too.  Nobody voted for obama.  He was appointed.