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Offline SJB

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20 gauge Tracker ll misfires
« on: December 03, 2011, 07:29:06 AM »
Went out this morning , saw 5 deer.  One came directly under my treestand, I had to point the gun vertical to take the shot. Pulled the trigger and nothing happened, doe walked out about 15 yards ( this  time I was holding the gun horizontal) pulled the trigger again and  nothing happened. Primer has slight dent in it,but it doesn't look like a normal dent. I'm using fresh ammo ,Hornady SST slugs which I shot before with no problems. Now this gun had repeatedly misfired once before and I concluded at the time it was because of a after market metal fore-end spacer I bought that was just a little to large and I believe it was causing the action to not lock up tight enough. Once I replaced it with the original plastic spacer everything was fine until this morning.  Any ideas? Thanks, Im going out again this afternoon, sure glad it wasn't a nice buck! Also once a primer has been dented,even slightly as this one has, is that primer pretty much gone? Thanks again.


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Re: 20 gauge Tracker ll misfires
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2011, 08:22:01 AM »
See the info on FTFs(failure to fire) and Misfires in the FAQs and Help sticky, most likely it's a bad transfer bar and/or weak hammer spring, the trigger work info in the FAQs shows how to replace them. Be aware that not following thru with the trigger pull will allow the transfer bar to drop which will result in light pin strikes. I've dropped the hammer on primers many times trying to get them to fire, barring a defective primer, it will still work with a good pin strike, so give em another try. I'd be careful how they're handled in the mean time, it's always possible that dropping one might set it off, I've read about one that went off in a dud container at the range a long time after it was disposed of by the shooter, never have had a problem with misfired rounds myself tho, I just shoot them at the range when the problem is resolved IF it's a firearm problem.

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Re: 20 gauge Tracker ll misfires
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2011, 03:42:58 AM »
Cold gun slowing/dampening the firing pin? What kind of lube are you using in it. For cold weather hunting I prefer basically 'clean and dry', but the new generation, low drag lubes, are great stuff.
I know of no one who has done any FTF while vertical testing........perhaps it is you now.
I suspect the 'transfer bar'. See the post on this issue with the good pics of the proper T-bar and the one that typically misfires (sorry, I dont have the link(s), but someone here surely does).

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Re: 20 gauge Tracker ll misfires
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 02:32:45 PM »
im kinda sick of reading about all the FTF and light strikes. ive had issues also. following through shouldnt be the answer. dont know if its possible but wish there was a kit to do away with the transfer bar system and go with a cross bolt safety like on a winchester lever model 94. would seem simple to do.

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Re: 20 gauge Tracker ll misfires
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 02:55:11 PM »
As far as "follow thru" causing problems:
I have 3 H&R's,, when My new USH was having FTF problems, follow through did not help it, at the same time, no matter how light/slow I pulled the trigger on my other 2 guns, they never had a FTF even with purposfully stopping the trigger from having follow through.
It ended up being the "new style" transfer bar causing me problems, switching to an older style t bar cleared it up.
 
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Re: 20 gauge Tracker ll misfires
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2011, 04:23:59 AM »
You 'hear about it' here, 'cause this is where we are. It isnt a huge problem, but it does happen. It is rather easily fixable, and note that the factory acknowledges it and does it (instead of begging off or making it horribly difficult) AND, they changed from the problematic T-bar to a good one.
In my book that is responsiveness to the customer base  ;D .
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Re: 20 gauge Tracker ll misfires
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2011, 04:37:18 AM »
How new is your firearm also.  My .45-70 BC FTF'd about 6 times in the first 400 rounds.  After that, it's settled in and never does.  Don't know if it was the shipping lube or me just getting used to it, but I haven't had one in over a year now.  Just lettin you know, perhaps give it a good break-in period.  Many firearms of all types can be tempermental for the first 500 rounds.  The only gun I've ever bought that was 100% outta the box in all ways was my wife's Charter Arms Pink Lady, believe it or not.  hehe  All the rest I've done tweaking to or had to return for work.  ;)
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Re: 20 gauge Tracker ll misfires
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2011, 11:07:21 AM »
You 'hear about it' here, 'cause this is where we are. It isnt a huge problem, but it does happen. It is rather easily fixable, and note that the factory acknowledges it and does it
   yea but it was a long road for them to aknowledge the problem. this site probably figured it out for them. seen too many reports of guns being shipped back with same issues. i just went to the range not even a couple weeks ago and was approached by a fella that says you know these guns shoot good but once in a while they have a light strike on the primer or FTF all together. told him to send it back or by following through the shot mite help. its an issue for sure. the new and old style transfer bars i guess can be one part of the problem. dont know if its the fix all.

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Re: 20 gauge Tracker ll misfires
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2011, 02:22:40 PM »
With a light strike I would order one of the wolf springs and while you have the trigger apart replacing it, make sure all the other trigger parts are disassembled, cleaned and at most light coat of oil on them especially the firing pin, i polished the firing pin with 600 grit wet sandpaper and the firing pin hole aswell, couple doing that with the wolf spring and you will have likely not only fixed the problem but improved the trigger over stock aswell. This fixed one of my frames i was having problems with FTF's