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Re: Trail food
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2011, 06:30:20 PM »
Boilers with inadequate T&P protection, beanie weenies, smoked oysters, dried fruit, vienners...all can lead to a build up of internal pressure with catastrophic results.
Be careful out there.
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Re: Trail food
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2011, 07:58:13 PM »
I produced steam with a can of beanie weenies once. It was cold on the plains of Kansas, we were working to install the waste treatment facility for the site of a nuclear power station. It was one of the first things built.
I was doing the electrical, the mechanical guys had a lot of welding to do and located a welder in Kansas City, leased it, and had it brought down.
I figured I would put a can of beans on the engine and heat them up for lunch. Somehow that can vibrated loose and fell between the the radiator and fan, I head a big noise and look over at the welder and steam was coming out of the shroud where the can had went through the radiator. Superintendent went beserk, that was the only one they could get for a day or two. They never did say anything about the beans, they thought it just blew up. After they walked off I got the can out and cleaned up the beans. I went hungry that day. 

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Re: Trail food
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2011, 08:04:05 PM »
Briarpatch, did you feel ignernt when it was over? I been there. ear
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Re: Trail food
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2011, 01:09:14 AM »
I think I'll stick with my sterno and freeze dry.  Less volatile. :o
 
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Re: Trail food
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2011, 02:59:13 AM »
Briarpatch, did you feel ignernt when it was over? I been there. ear

Yes, a bad move on my part.
Not a good thing to do when thats is all you have for equipment.

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Re: Trail food
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2011, 06:26:55 AM »
Boilers with inadequate T&P protection, beanie weenies, smoked oysters, dried fruit, vienners...all can lead to a build up of internal pressure with catastrophic results.
Be careful out there.

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Re: Trail food
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2011, 08:27:23 AM »
Back in the mid 80s the wife gave me a tool box for my Jeep.  It's made from a hard resin material.  Never seen a tool other than a can opener. 
 
To this day it is packed with cans of food, seasonings, foil packs of Spam, Tuna, and a small box of crackers.  Zip-lock bag of small packets of Mayonaise, Mustard, Pickles, and other condiments.  Small boxes of raisens and dried fruit.  Coleman Stove, extra fuel, can opener, hunting knife, plastic flatware, small plastic bottle containing emergency flares with launcher(smaller around than a soda bottle, and half as tall),  zip-lock snack size bag of 30-06 shells, roll of orange trail marking tape, roll of Duct tape, and a small gun cleaning kit.  After the weather turns cold I throw in a small box of Velveeta.  My Coleman Stove has a metal storage box that I use to heat water.  I never cook in this box, clean up is too hard.  I take small tin foil loaf pans to cook in if needed.
 
The only thing I need to grab as I am leaving is a loaf of bread, which I snatch off the kitchen counter as I leave.  After returning I empty and replace everything in the box so it is rotated.
 
When I do put cans of Spam in the box I always get the low sodium cans.  I try and purchase low sodium cans of all canned good when possiable.  I am a heart patient and I am always aware of sodium, and avoid it as much as possiable.  With a lot of the canned foods I throw out the juice in the can, and wash the contents with clear water, before eating.
 
The advantage with canned foods is that it is precooked.  It can be eaten cold.  Every year it seems someone (grown men) will over heat an unvented can, and blow one up.  I taught my boys early to vent the can before putting near the fire, or on top of the cabin stove.  My oldest set a large can of Pork N Beans in the coals of the camp fire one year.  Then walked down to the river to watch me land a Pike.  We were walking back to the fire when the can blew.  We were pelted with hot beans, and sauce.  No one hurt, just made a mess.
 
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Re: Trail food
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2011, 10:18:32 AM »
We've used coleman lanterns in tents for many many years with no ill effects.
OK, I know weve drifted a lot but that is normal for our crowd.  ;) About the OP, I used to read about PEMMICAN that the original Americans made but other than dried fruits and nuts not been able to find out what all it is made of. Does anybody have a recipe for making it?? I read that it would sometimes be eaten like it is and sometimes put in hot water and cooked. Any info?? POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D

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Ingredients:
 
  • 4 cups lean meat (deer, beef, caribou or moose)
  • 3 cups dried fruit ( I like dried cranberries, cherries, & raisins )
  • 2 cups rendered fat
  • Unsalted nuts and about 1 shot of honey
Instructions:

Meat should be as lean as possible and double ground from your butcher if you do not have you own meat grinder. Spread it out very thin on a cookie sheet and dry at 180 degrees F for at least 8 hours or until sinewy and crispy. Pound the meat into a nearly powder consistency using a blender or other tool. Grind the dried fruit, but leave a little bit lumpy for fun texture. Heat rendered fat on stove at medium until liquid. Add liquid fat to dried meat and dried fruit, and mix in nuts and honey. Mix everything by hand. Let cool and store. Can keep and be consumed for several years.


 

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Re: Trail food
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2011, 01:10:51 PM »
Hawk  I have read that the traditional pemmican was usually made with chokecherries. I can't imagine removing the pits from enough cherries to be of any use. So I assume that they were dried and then ground pits and all. That sounds pretty gritty to me. Would you have any insight into how traditional pemmican was made.

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Re: Trail food
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2011, 01:29:57 PM »
Hawk  I have read that the traditional pemmican was usually made with chokecherries. I can't imagine removing the pits from enough cherries to be of any use. So I assume that they were dried and then ground pits and all. That sounds pretty gritty to me. Would you have any insight into how traditional pemmican was made.

That is actualy a misconception, a small amount of dried fruit (such as juneberries) was on occasion added, then more for flavor than for any nutritional contribution. The aditition of fruit actualy became popular with Europeans as they adopted making Pemican. Then it was a matter of what fruits were easily available to them and that suited their tastes.

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Re: Trail food
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2011, 01:40:31 PM »
The book I read was an old classic about the revolution, can't remember the name. It said pemmican was absolutely necessary to the fur trade in the great lakes region. I suppose the French and English trader/trappers modified the Indian recipe. The book said that pemmican was a standard trade good and that it allowed travel that would have not been possible without it. 

Maybe it you ground chokecherry seeds fine enough they would take a flour like consistancy.

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Re: Trail food
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2011, 02:45:19 PM »
SPIRITHAWK. Thanks friend. I've read about pemican since I was old enough to read but never really knew how to make it. Charlie.  ;D ;D
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Re: Trail food
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2011, 03:20:25 PM »
SPIRITHAWK. Thanks friend. I've read about pemican since I was old enough to read but never really knew how to make it. Charlie.  ;D ;D

 
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Re: Trail food
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2011, 07:23:04 AM »
This may sound like a dumb question-how do you use pemmican? Do you eat it as is or do you soak it in water to reconstitute it?
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Re: Trail food
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2011, 11:30:37 AM »
This may sound like a dumb question-how do you use pemmican? Do you eat it as is or do you soak it in water to reconstitute it?

It can be eaten both ways, as is or added to water to make a soup.

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Re: Trail food
« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2011, 09:14:22 PM »
that trail food really tastes better in the back country.the can in the fire thing i tried it once while i was cooking some thing else for dinner all of a sudden there was a boom there went dinner canned corn is powerfull stuff. ;D ;D ;D