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Offline boarshead

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22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« on: December 07, 2011, 11:34:18 AM »
      Don't quite know what forum to ask this in,  wanting to get my son more trigger time on his 223 handi, on the barn pidgeons
   and sparrows with 22 pellets in 223 brass with rifle primers or 209,s (have lots of 209's).       
      Thanks, Bud
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 11:45:13 AM »
Well I havn't done that in my 223 but do it quite often in my hornet. Works well and is totally silent.
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 11:49:34 AM »
On one of the email suppliers that I get occasionally, (Sportsman's Guide?) they had a case already made up for 209 primers, and crimped for a 22 pellet.  You might want to check.
 
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 12:46:10 PM »
I was confused for a while until I realilzed that you were talking about .22 caliber pellets, not 22 individual pellets stuffed into a .223 case.  I have done it with standard primers just to see what happened (it works), but I think that 209 primers would give the pellets magnum pellet gun velocity.  The only problem that I see is that there will have to be some sight adjustment.  Has anybody tried this?
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 01:28:33 PM »
I haven't tried that.  I have fired primers only for various reasons and they always back out a little.  Open the flash hole up a bit and it should work great.
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 03:32:52 PM »
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2011, 03:41:32 AM »
        Thanks for the great information.
 
Thanks again,  Bud
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2011, 08:26:27 AM »
Saw this post. Now I got a project.
Drilling the flash hole to full size makes sense.
209s will require a larger primer pocket, then a funky manual primer install, probably with a dowel.
Would you expect a significant difference in velocity with a 209 over a large rifle primer in a 22-250?

Are 22 pellets .224 or .220?
Would it matter?
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2011, 08:34:37 AM »
What about a magnum primer. Would that make a difference. Great all I need is another project I dont have time for>
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2011, 08:38:23 AM »
Quote from: burntmuch on December 09, 2011, 08:34:37 AM
What about a magnum primer. Would that make a difference. Great all I need is another project I dont have time for>

Magnum primer..hmm.
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2011, 11:08:49 AM »
      Would anyone happen to known the drill sizes,  you would need for the flash hole and the 209 hole?  I can see the center
punches in the neck.  HMMMM,  177-17rem, 20-204, 22-223,22-22-250, 25-257Bob, 2506, 257Roy.
The barn rats, pidgeons, and sparrows are going to have a long winter with my 10 year old on duty.
      Thanks,   Boarshead  [Bud]
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2011, 04:07:24 PM »
Boardshead - Win 209s are .245" at the widest seated part, and necks down halfway thru to .237".
I am going with a 1/4: drill, but first I am going to see what CCI-200 Large Rifle does, then magnums.
If I drill for 209, I drilling staight thru to transmit the most pressure down the barrel.
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2011, 11:55:28 AM »
Boarshead - I tried this. I am going to start a thread in Handloading called "22 pellet / primer projects" and we can share results.
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2011, 12:50:40 PM »
Quote from: PowPow on December 10, 2011, 11:55:28 AM
Boarshead - I tried this. I am going to start a thread in Handloading called "22 pellet / primer projects" and we can share results.
Post a link from your .22 pellet/primer projects to this thread....if you would.  8)
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2011, 02:34:32 PM »



Link to "22 pellet / primer project" in Handloading forum:
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,246830.0.html
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2011, 05:10:48 PM »
     Powwow, thanks for all your work, buried at work, will check in the experiments
as I get a chance to.    The sportsman guide examples had 3 or 4 centerpunches
at the depth in the neck of brass where the pellet should stop.
                         Thanks, Bud
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Re: 22 pellets in 223 brass with primers
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2012, 11:51:07 PM »
I first tried this 10 or so years ago and found that small rifle primers were good for target practice in the garage.  I tried a pinch (maybe a .1 grain) of Red dot with good results but I never got back to experimenting with it.  I've heard some guys say they've blown the skirt off the pellets with more powder. 

I'm getting ready to move but this is one of the things I'd like to experiment with more next winter...

Tony
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