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Offline Indiana Denny

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H&R forearm spacer
« on: December 08, 2011, 05:21:27 AM »
Sorry for the link but I can not explain what this part is for
 
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=263593483
 
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2011, 05:28:39 AM »
It the spacer that fits between the frame and forend on all H&R single shots, normally plastic, it's attached to the forend with two wood screws.

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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 05:51:58 AM »
It's Brass. It's just for Pretty, some guy's like the look.
 I personally think the single piece of brass is out of place on a Handi, it really needs more for a balanced look. Butt plate, nose cap and/or an inlay of sorts.
 But heck, I'm the kinda guy that tarnishes brass trimmings on a Traditional ML on purpose.
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 06:07:23 AM »
Quote from: necchi on December 08, 2011, 05:51:58 AM
I personally think the single piece of brass is out of place on a Handi, it really needs more for a balanced look.

Trigger guard and hammer help!  :D

Tim

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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 06:39:21 AM »
As Tim said trigger gaurd hammer forend spacer and bbl band really all look great together I have my Shikari fitted that way . Will have to wait til next yr calender submissions to see it though as the guns I wanted to submit for consideration are away at deer camp when submissions were asked for . Kurt
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2011, 05:06:59 PM »
how does one obtain a brass hammer and trigger gaurd?
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2011, 06:03:21 PM »
Quote from: Joe S. on December 08, 2011, 05:06:59 PM
how does one obtain a brass hammer and trigger gaurd?


bribe me to make a mold and then i can cast the trigger guard. Hammer is probably plated, can do that too with the right stuff.
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2011, 08:37:10 AM »
Bribe, Bribe, Bribe, Bribe. Is it working yet? ;D
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2011, 08:52:54 AM »
I thought there was a GBO member selling metal spacers.
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2011, 09:06:13 AM »
Toth Tool is only making spacers in matte steel and I don't know if he's even making those any more, he's no longer a site sponsor. The only brass parts have been Moyer's which are discontinued and someone making brass spacers that was selling them on a couple auction sites.

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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2011, 09:33:38 AM »
Has aluminum ever been considered as a spacer material? Seems as though they could be finished to whatever the owner wishes and hold up better than the zamak parts used on other types of firearms.
 Polished, brushed, blasted, jeweled, annodized...whatever finish you want to do. Match it up with an aluminum buttplate spacer and nickeled swivels for a low cost two-tone look.....
  Just a sudden train of thought on my part. Are there any drawbacks I may have overlooked?
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2011, 09:41:17 AM »
Yup, do a search, the topic has been beat to death discussed more than a few times, I've sent plastic parts to several prospective makers, Toth Tool is the only one to come thru with a finished product.  ;)

striker525 was the last to work on making them in brass and anodized aluminum, but he hasn't been online here since Feb 2010.

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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2011, 09:52:40 AM »
My post was mainly for Joe, he lives about 2 miles from me. I can look into casting some of these, but i have no materials on hand and would have to order everything. It may not be worth it cost wise to make some. What would people be willing to pay?
I have not had my handi that far apart, how is the trigger guard removed? and are they all pretty much the same? Mine is a late production sb2. I would be doing this for others, i dont care for the look and it would look really odd on mine with its painted synthetic stock.
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2011, 10:05:43 AM »
As always, the first place to learn anything on any H&R subject is the FAQs sticky, see Metal Trigger Guard and Spacer. The trigger guard isn't just a trigger guard, it also hold the trigger and latch spring see the trigger hone info in the FAQs on that.

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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2011, 10:16:45 AM »
Just came back here after reading that one per your prior post about it being beat...er, discussed already.
Aluminum doesn't sound like a popular choice. Not enough to make it worth while as an offering anyway. I was thinking more along the line of rough castings and not finshed drop-in parts. Without enough interest it's better to do one for yourself as a one-off.
 I guess that settles that. No point in bothering the local foundryman then.
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2011, 10:56:43 AM »
Moyer's parts were as cast and very poorly done, probably the reason why he discontinued them, poor customer feedback and he wasn't interested in making them properly, I offered to send him factory parts to copy, but he insisted they were accurate even after I sent him comparison pics of his parts and factory parts.  ::)

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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2011, 11:18:54 AM »
Quote from: JB White on December 09, 2011, 09:33:38 AM
Has aluminum ever been considered as a spacer material? Seems as though they could be finished to whatever the owner wishes and hold up better than the zamak parts used on other types of firearms.
 Polished, brushed, blasted, jeweled, annodized...whatever finish you want to do. Match it up with an aluminum buttplate spacer and nickeled swivels for a low cost two-tone look.....
  Just a sudden train of thought on my part. Are there any drawbacks I may have overlooked?

I machined an aluminum spacer a while back.  It's not hard if you have a mill.   
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,229608.msg1099277000.html#msg1099277000
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2011, 02:31:43 PM »
I just talked to an artist/sculptor friend who has done a good bit of brass casting. He said after looking at the parts diagram i sent he would recomend having them machined.
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2011, 07:20:05 PM »
 You guys got me thinking. After seeing the milled aluminum spacer in the other thread I've decided that I like the look. Just happen to have a friend who's a retired machinist with a bridgeport in his 'garage'. I'm going to run it past him to see if he's up to it now that his fields are down.
 Depending upon how that goes, afterward I'll ask him about copying a trigger guard. I don't know where we are in regard to owing one another favors over the years, but by this time tomorrow I'll have figured out a way to argue that it's his turn. :)
 If this turns out OK I'll post pics of the finished project(s)
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2011, 05:14:49 AM »
The hunt for the elusive brass trigger guard continues!


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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2011, 05:11:47 PM »
I'm thinking about trying one in copper.  I love the copper look and I can get plates of it cheaper here.  I think it'd look really sweet on the BC.  ;)
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2011, 11:30:17 AM »
I've been away for about a year (or so) and just returned and we're still looking for the fore end spacer in brass? :'(   I wish I wish :P :-\ :'(  I had a couple for my Target Classic and old Shikari. 
 
Been thinking of a barrel band, I may try to fit one from Dixie Gun Works.  I think if I simply trace my current BB they might be able to fit oe for me.
 
 
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2011, 11:51:04 AM »
Quote from: Indiana Denny on December 08, 2011, 05:21:27 AM
Sorry for the link but I can not explain what this part is for
 
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=263593483
 
Any ideas ??

That part is for sale by "ham77", who is probably the same as go2gbo member and "ham7777".  I'd love to have it myself, but it's the Christmas season and I can't afford to buy myself any more gifts right now.
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2011, 07:41:34 PM »
Quote from: tacklebury on December 10, 2011, 05:11:47 PM
I'm thinking about trying one in copper.  I love the copper look and I can get plates of it cheaper here.  I think it'd look really sweet on the BC.  ;)
Been trying to get a mental image of that since you posted. With the right looking wood that would (wood-would??) be nice. One question though. How would you halt the green patina?
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2011, 08:15:45 PM »
clear urathane, or laquer if you can still find some
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2011, 12:21:41 PM »
I don't think I want it super bright, so I'd probably do some rubbed down w/ brass black and then clearcoat it, once my desired coloration was achieved.  I've seen that soaking copper in various things can do some cool stuff to the surface finish too.  I've played with vinegar or various mild acids which can do some pretty cool stuff.  ;) 
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2011, 12:41:32 PM »
That sounds like a plan. Aside from an etched finish a brushed finish with darkened highlights might look good too. I'm sure you'll come up with something that looks nice without looking out of place to you. I'm not fond of of the high polished finshes either. But...that's me. If it were brass I would fume it as I like that brownish hue.
 My buddy did take a forend spacer from me this weekend to see what he can do. I'm still not certain what final finish I would like either. I'll fit it then polish it but beyond that I'm tossing about between a light sandblast or a bead blast before letting it oxidize a bit. What do you think?
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2011, 12:50:53 PM »
I just bought two from Mr Tom Hammonnd off Gunbroker.Com.  $29.95 for the first, $25.00 for the second.  These are H&R Foreend Spacers and are CNC Machined in bronze.  Pricey  ::)  YES, but....I want them so.... ;) .....age old story of demand and supply  :-[ .  The photos look REALLY NICE!!!!  FYI I typed in 'forend spacer on Gunbroker and up it came.  I will post a pic when they come in of my Wesson & Harrington 38-55 all decked out.  Jim.
 
 
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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2011, 01:17:12 PM »
I use Jax Brown Black Darkener on spinner blades, it works excellent, can be just as dark as you like, just remove it and rinse when it reaches the color you want.

Tim

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Re: H&R forearm spacer
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2011, 01:27:46 PM »
Thx Tim, book marked it.  8)
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