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NEF .22/.410 combo question
« on: December 08, 2011, 06:04:40 AM »
Hello,
Iv been looking around to buy a Break action NEF or H&R, i cant seem to find one in my wanted .308 config,  Iv found .223, and .243.  also all the shotgun configs, all for over $200, recently i found a new NEF .22/.410 combo for $130.  My Question is, will this receiver handle the .308 barrel, because i know that the shotgun recievers wont handle the rifle receivers, but i didnt know if the .22 LR was on the rifle or shotgun reciever. Thanks for the help.

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NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2011, 06:09:12 AM »
No. The factory wont mount rifles on a Versa Pack frame.
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 06:12:58 AM »
Welcome! The 22/410 is a Versa-Pack, see the sticky above, H&R at Gardner wouldn't fit any other barrels to it, Ilion might, no one has asked them that I know of, but some have used other shotgun barrels on the VP frame. Spend some time in the FAQs and Help sticky to answer other questions you may have, tons of info there for newbies.  ;)

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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 06:15:43 AM »
  Seems like that could only be a Versa-pack.... I am trying to find if I can mount a .357 or .44 mag on mine
      http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,244542.0.html
       I suspect that putting a .308 on it, could easily result in pieces..  On the other hand the $130 is an awfully good price if that is a Versa-pack.
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 06:46:35 AM »
The best way to find out what can be used on a frame is call H&R(toll free (866)776-9292) and give them the frame serial number, the VP  frame appears to be a cast iron frame like the SB1 shotgun frame which is not suitable for any high pressure chambering like the the 308 Win which require an SB2 rifle frame.

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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2011, 06:25:42 PM »
Yea thats what i figured, alright well thank you guys for the info and input, you wouldnt happen to know anywhere or anyone that i could get a .308 H&R from cheap do you?

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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2011, 05:16:38 AM »
The H&R classifieds or an ad posted in the H&R WTB forum are good places to start, if you want a new one, Bud's has them in stock for about $260 shipped, that's where I buy most of my new ones now, just ordered another 45-70(number 7  ;D) from them.

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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2011, 12:46:17 PM »
I use a 45 Colt barrel on a Versa Pack frame, I bought the barrel here on the classifieds and it locked up perfect on that frame. Like Quick said, don't try a .308 on that frame. Low pressure stuff only.
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2011, 12:09:24 PM »
Not that this helps much but my Vers-Pak .22lr barrel is my favorite H-R.

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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2011, 03:25:41 AM »
Sure hope you have bought that already!
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2011, 10:32:07 AM »
Actually im looking at a .308 Handi grip right now figured id just go new even tho they are alot more expensive than youd think brand new.

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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2011, 02:18:40 PM »
"recently i found a new NEF .22/.410 combo for $130."
 
Don't tease us, either buy it for thet GREAT price or please let me know where it is and I will buy it, poste haste, immediately, right now, ASAP, and even quicker if I can figure out how to do it. That is  a great combo unit they are no longer making, and even if your .308 barrel cannot be fired from the frame you will grow to love the gun...I'm serious here buddy, buy it and don't look back. if you don't want it please e-mail or IM me with the info of where it is...and have a safe and Merry CHRISTmas....<><....:)
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2011, 02:41:50 PM »
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I already offered! ;D But, honestly, I don't think he bought it. :o
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2011, 02:58:36 PM »
Probably a Rossi at Wal-Mart....
12g shortie w/chokes,Tamer .410,12g "Buck" slug gun w/20g extra barrel, 12g smooth bore tracker I, 45/410 w/22vp matched set, 7mm-08, .308 20",

my avatar pic is my 1960 Rambler I bought in 1972 for $175..6 banger 3-on-the-tree...drove it for 5 yrs  22mpg.. was "hot-rodding" (LOL) one night...tore out 1st/reverse gear. Drove it that way for 2 yrs(with no reverse and only 2nd and high)  Had to really plan ahead when parking.
sold it for $125
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2011, 09:58:24 AM »
Actually it is at walmart but its not a rossi, it is the NEF .22/.410 combo brand new for $129.99, thats also where im getting my .308 from im ordering one out of their sports south supplier catalog.

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NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2011, 10:05:21 AM »
My Walmart hasn't ever stocked a Rossi that I've seen, only H&R's.
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2011, 11:09:17 AM »
jeremybeaner, can you let us know which Walmart, state and town, perhaps even the phone number so we can try to snap up that great deal? Hopefully they could transfer it to one of our local stores...Thanks....<><.... :)
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2011, 02:17:19 PM »
Sure.  Walmart supercenter, Bismarck, ND.  701-223-3066, 2717 Rock Island Pl.

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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2011, 06:30:38 AM »
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How did you make out?  Did you call?  Let me know, if they have more than one set, and how you set up the transfer to your local Wal-Mart.  Thanks.
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2011, 06:52:27 AM »
I would love to know too!!! I am looking for one for my daughter.

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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2011, 02:32:28 PM »
Looks to me like the beginnings of a great urban myth in the works...Haha...like to see a pic of that in Walmart on your camera-phone...Walmart s around Springfield, MO have had Rossi's for many years
12g shortie w/chokes,Tamer .410,12g "Buck" slug gun w/20g extra barrel, 12g smooth bore tracker I, 45/410 w/22vp matched set, 7mm-08, .308 20",

my avatar pic is my 1960 Rambler I bought in 1972 for $175..6 banger 3-on-the-tree...drove it for 5 yrs  22mpg.. was "hot-rodding" (LOL) one night...tore out 1st/reverse gear. Drove it that way for 2 yrs(with no reverse and only 2nd and high)  Had to really plan ahead when parking.
sold it for $125
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2011, 02:33:44 PM »
At least they have firearms, none of the WMs here carry any firearms.  :-\
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2011, 02:34:13 PM »
+ Brian56 from H&R should be able to verify that story..............
12g shortie w/chokes,Tamer .410,12g "Buck" slug gun w/20g extra barrel, 12g smooth bore tracker I, 45/410 w/22vp matched set, 7mm-08, .308 20",

my avatar pic is my 1960 Rambler I bought in 1972 for $175..6 banger 3-on-the-tree...drove it for 5 yrs  22mpg.. was "hot-rodding" (LOL) one night...tore out 1st/reverse gear. Drove it that way for 2 yrs(with no reverse and only 2nd and high)  Had to really plan ahead when parking.
sold it for $125
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2011, 02:35:25 PM »
Yeah  most of the Walmarts around here quit, too  but all have brought them back due to popular demand....
12g shortie w/chokes,Tamer .410,12g "Buck" slug gun w/20g extra barrel, 12g smooth bore tracker I, 45/410 w/22vp matched set, 7mm-08, .308 20",

my avatar pic is my 1960 Rambler I bought in 1972 for $175..6 banger 3-on-the-tree...drove it for 5 yrs  22mpg.. was "hot-rodding" (LOL) one night...tore out 1st/reverse gear. Drove it that way for 2 yrs(with no reverse and only 2nd and high)  Had to really plan ahead when parking.
sold it for $125
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2011, 03:50:44 AM »
At least they have firearms, none of the WMs here carry any firearms.  :-\

Walmarts up here in the northern part of the state have 'em.   ;D

And yeah, Andy, tell us more about whether you managed to grab that Versa Pack in ND... ;)
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2011, 07:06:38 AM »
Is there another GBO member that lives up that (Bismark, ND) way? 
Hope this is true, would like to find that great untapped stash of Versa Packs. ;)
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2011, 07:45:08 AM »
Sorry for the delay guys, I have to get to my local Walmart and see if they can transfer that Versa Pak here for me. Oh Oh, will have to go to another WalMart, the one closest to me stopped selling guns AND ammo :( >:( :-\ :'( ....<><....:)
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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2011, 08:13:16 AM »
At least they have firearms, none of the WMs here carry any firearms.  :-\

Walmarts up here in the northern part of the state have 'em.   ;D


All of em here use to, but not any more.  :-X

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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2011, 12:29:32 PM »
well apparantly this deal is too good to be true for you guys, maybe i outta verify my info here.  Can you guys tell me if it looks any different than a regular NEF's? it fits me pretty good, i asked they guy working if it was a youth or not because the tag says yth at the end of the tag and he insists its not a youth. ??? could be wrong and im not sure if this matters or not, all i know is its a NEF  ill try to post a pic of it tonight yet if i make over there im always in there looking at guns.

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Re: NEF .22/.410 combo question
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2011, 12:54:45 PM »
Alright guys it was bothering me alot so i drove to wally realy quick to check it out again, i actually found a manager to look at it for me, and he explained that it is not a combo, he said that the description the guy was going off of was just the AVAILABLE calibers they offer, and it is in fact a youth NEF that offers .410, 12, 20, and .22 lr calibers.  it is $127 but you only get one caliber to pick from.  I apologize for passing on incorrect information, i guess i didnt think it would make that much of a difference. And i also did see a rossi there in .223 ha but i forgot to check the price.  Again sorry for the hopes rising.