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Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« on: December 08, 2011, 08:46:06 AM »
  The Iranians have one of our highest tech drone spy planes, the military immediately supplied theb Obama administration with several options to retrieve or at least destroy that vehicle.   Obama put the stoppers on that !
     http://www.debka.com/article/21550/
   Think back...would Pres Reagan have left that drone sitting there ?  I think we know better than that...    He didn't allow the terrorists get away, who murdered and old man aboard the Achille Lauro.  He also shut of Ghadaffi for at least 20 years ...till Obama helped the Muslim Brothers overthrow Ghadaffi.
   Of course, then the "chosen one" did shoot something down.  He shot down an American aircraft company (Hawker Beechcraft) in favor of a Brazilian firm which has ties to Iran.
 http://www.standupamericaus.org/politics-washington-dc/air-force-to-purchase-brazilian-planes-obama-nixes-more-jobs/
   
   I wonder why Brazil has such a charm for the "messiah" ?  First he shuts down drilling in the gulf, sending the drilling rigs along with a bunch of our tax money...to help Brazil develop their oil production.
 
  How many are still gullible enough to believe somehow, that he actually tries to act in America's best interests ?
 
  BTW: This has nothing to do with his NLRB refusing to allow Boeing to build in South Carolina...probably driving that part of Boeing overseas...
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2011, 09:07:05 AM »
I think dems have no respect at all for the military and treat the things that make our military the best, our technology like it is nothing. Clinton let lots of our technology go to the Chinese for campaign contributions.

I can't believe that the Air Force didn't have a fail safe self destruct option on anything that important. That said I'm sure the military was ready to make an effort to go fix the problem but was stopped by the State Department and our beloved Pres. How much of our money was spent developing that technology that was just handed over to the enemy.

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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 11:25:29 AM »
Of course Obama does not want to destroy or recover the drone.  He needs to please either his Muslim or Communist buddies, whichever one gives him the most bacon [pun intended].  The point is.....Obummer sells out this nation at every opportunity (never let a good crisis go to waste").

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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 11:29:35 AM »
I noticed it is from DEBKA...an alarmist Israeli website trading in rumors.  Then I noticed all the negative chatter in the right hand  column..so I took it for what it's worth.
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 11:43:53 AM »
Don't know what is actually going on here. Do a google search and look at the responses from different sources. There is debate whether a plane actually went down and what the Iranians are showing does not look correct or damaged. Interesting.
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2011, 11:54:51 AM »
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2011, 03:11:02 PM »
Of course Obama does not want to destroy or recover the drone.  He needs to please either his Muslim or Communist buddies, whichever one gives him the most bacon [pun intended].  The point is.....Obummer sells out this nation at every opportunity (never let a good crisis go to waste").

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Agreed Sir. Imam obama making a gift of our latest technology to Americas enemies, not his. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2011, 04:10:51 PM »
I noticed it is from DEBKA...an alarmist Israeli website trading in rumors.  Then I noticed all the negative chatter in the right hand  column..so I took it for what it's worth.
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    Scientific journal accepts the sasme..  http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2011/12/fox_news_obama_2.php
 
  You didn't address the second part...where the anointed one chose to give the contract to a Brazilian firm rather than our own Hawker-beechcraft..
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2011, 08:20:57 PM »
The Brazilians make some very good aircraft.
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2011, 12:27:03 AM »
The Brazilians make some very good aircraft.
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   ....In conjunction with Iran..      Hitlers ghang made some very good aircraft for their time also..
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2011, 03:07:55 AM »
Quote from Ironglow:
"  You didn't address the second part...where the anointed one chose to give the contract to a Brazilian firm rather than our own Hawker-beechcraft.."


I am from the Wichita area and know people from production through management at Hawker-Beechcraft and currently it is one screwed up company. Maybe that had something to do with going to Brazil. It is nothing like the original Beechcraft company that use to produce some of the finest planes in the world.
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2011, 04:46:36 AM »
guzzi. Correct me if  I'm wrong but I think I heard that Witchita is still in the U.S.A. , but brazil is, uhh, NOT?? Thats how obummer creates jobs?? POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2011, 04:50:50 AM »
Quote from Powderman:
"guzzi. Correct me if  I'm wrong but I think I heard that Witchita is still in the U.S.A. , but brazil is, uhh, NOT?? Thats how obummer creates jobs?? POWDERMAN."


You are quite right PW, guess it boils down to if you want your tax dollars wasted on a possibly inferior product. Recently the Air Force would not even let Beech bid on producing an attack version of the trainer that they build.
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2011, 04:59:49 AM »
He also stopped the pipeline from Canada and the Bakkan oil fields to Texas refineries.  They are taking the oil by rail to Texas now, pipeline would be safer in the long run.  Train cars sometimes derail, and leak.  Would provide thousands of jobs.  He wants American capitalism to fail, and for us to become a socialist state.  Read Saul Alinsky's book.  He is following it right along.  First pushing national health care, when we needed jobs more.  Then bailing out the liberal cities and states, banks, GM and Chrysler, giving the bondholders nothing.  Should have let them go through the bankrupcy process like any other business.  The pipeline will require surveyors, lawyers for easements and right-of-way accquisitions, welders, heavy equipment operators.  Steel pipe mills (we have one in Birminham) workers, truckers and or railroads to deliver pipe and materials, vinal coating fusion bonding on the pipe for corrosion protections, valve, flange, welding ells, etc, fitting manufacturers, environmental engineers to inspect for rainwater run off, and other enivronmental issues, weld inspectors, welding helpers, pipe wrapers (for joints), electronics technicians for cathodic protection of the pipeline.  I could list more.  These are not hamburger flipping jobs folks, these are $50-150 thousand a year jobs.  Lots of families supported, lots of money to be spent by these people for their homes, cars, household goods, etc.  Drilling is the same. 

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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2011, 05:18:47 AM »
Reason for not destroying the thing, "it might be percieved as an act of war"   And so the Iranians are gonna attack us or what? Iran is already at war with western culture. We just won't admit it.

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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2011, 05:33:11 AM »
  I hear lots of excuses as to why his highness nixed the recovery/destruction of the recon aircraft and more excuses as to why he sent jobs out of the country to a foreign, Iran connected corporation (boycott Iran?)
      Any US president should be doing his best to increase employment in the US ..DUH! 
    Could none of the following listed US corporations have taken the bid ?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Aircraft_manufacturers_of_the_United_States
 
   GUZZI:  Hawker Beechcraft was already producing the AT-6 aircraft...Obama simply took trhe contract away and gave it to the Brazilian company, which has some dirty connections to George Soros and the Iranian mullahs..if you read the article
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2011, 05:52:02 AM »
  I do hope when Rep Darrell Issa gets done with Holder and his "Fast & Furious" game where 2 Americans and a couple hundred Mexicans got murdered..starts right in on the cozy relationship between Obama and Soros.
   Hawker Beechcraft should be hounding congress for an investigationn ..RIGHT NOW !!
 
   Guzzi..I DARE you to tell me this nis completely honest...I also DARE you to read the whole article...
 
        http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/hawker-beechcraft-denied-big-air-force-contract-in-favor-of-brazilian-company-with-soros-connections/
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2011, 06:00:49 AM »
Liberals can't stand the truth.  They stick their fingers in their ears and yell, blame, and then stick out their hands for a handout. 
 
Conservatives don't mind helping people at all, like widows and orphans, but able bodied non-working people can find work, even if they have to do what illegals do now, until something else comes along.  I graduated high school and couldn't find a job (had a recession going on), but found one at a hamburger place.  Worked 50-60 hours a week, no overtime, at $1.30/hour.  Minimum wage at that time was $1.60 for businesses that hired over 500 or something like that.  Bought my car, and saved enough to start college.  Paid my own way through college, took me twice as long.  Kids have been made lazy today with entitlement mentality from schools, and parents.  I made mine work for their own cars.  We need people in Alabama right now to pick vegetables, cut grass, trim hedges, do repair work.  Dont' pay too much, but at least it is work.

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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2011, 06:03:08 AM »
The Brazilians make some very good aircraft.
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   ....In conjunction with Iran..      Hitlers ghang made some very good aircraft for their time also..
Ah, the nazi card. Anyhow... the Brazilian A/C industry stands on its own, no Iran needed. Haven't you ever flown on an Embraer?
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2011, 06:22:58 AM »
Easy to see where the obamination gets his support for taking jobs away from Americans. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2011, 06:24:09 AM »
  OK..since you didn't read the article, I'll make it easy for you.  This outlines the whole sordid Obama/Soros relationship, if you can't see that ..you are being intentionally blind!!
  TM; Doesn't shipping all this American wealth to Soros' aircraft and petroleum investments in Brazil..smack to you of Trilateralist commission hokey-pokey ?
 
 
 
P | November 22, 2011 ¡¤ 4:17 pm
 ¡ý Jump to Comments Hawker-Beechcraft Denied Big Air Force Contract in Favor of Brazilian Company With Soros Connections 
 
Hawker-Beechcraft AT-6
By Gary P Jackson
Here¡¯s a little something that caught my eye today. It seems after investing around $100 million in this project, Hawker-Beechcraft has been excluded from a contract, worth almost $1 billion, to build a new light air support plane.
What intrigues me is the Brazilian company Embraer, the likely contract winner, is currently under investigation by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, and the Justice Department, for possible violations of the US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
According to Financial Times, Embraer is ¡°venturing into the defense industry¡± and ¡°is one of a select few Brazilian companies that has managed to break out of the Latin American market and compete on a global scale¡±
You can read more about the corruption investigation here.
Here¡¯s what the Wichita Eagle is reporting:
 
Hawker Beechcraft Corp. says the Air Force has informed the company that it lost out on a military contract worth nearly $1 billion.
The company had hoped to win the Light Air Support contract with its AT-6, an armed version of its T-6 trainer. But on Friday, the company said it received a letter from the Air Force saying the AT-6 had been excluded from the competition. The company wants an explanation.
According to the company¡¯s news release: ¡
°The letter provides no basis for the exclusion. We are both confounded and troubled by this decision, as we have been working closely with the Air Force for two years and, with our partners Lockheed Martin, CMC Esterline, Pratt & Whitney Canada, L-3 WESCAM and CAE, have invested more than $100 million preparing to meet the Air Force¡¯s specific requirements.¡±
The piston planes are designed for counterinsurgency, close air support, armed overwatch and homeland security.
Hawker Beechcraft said it continues to believe the AT-6 is the most capable, affordable and sustainable aircraft in the competition based on the Air Force¡¯s specifications. The company has said that winning the award would have kept its T-6 production line running after 2015. The company has said that 1,400 employees in 20 states ¨C including 800 at Hawker Beechcraft in Wichita ¨C work on the AT-6 and T-6 programs at the company and its U.S. suppliers and partners.
The company said Friday that it had no further comment, for now.
The decision appears to leave the field open to the Super Tucano built by Brazil¡¯s Embraer for the initial contract to supply 35 with the potential for 55 aircraft worth up to $950 million. And that doesn¡¯t include foreign sales.
The Air Force¡¯s move surprised aircraft industry analyst Richard Aboulafia of the Teal Group.
¡°They seemed to be the front runner for the contract,¡± he said of Hawker. ¡°They had the most infrastructure spread over the most states and the most political support.¡±
He said the loss is not critical to the company¡¯s survival, but it would have been a great boost to maintaining work and workers as the company¡¯s T-6 contract runs down.
¡°The challenge is to build for the military market until the civil market comes back,¡± Aboulafia said. ¡°And nobody knows when the civil market will come back, probably some time next year, but there¡¯s no guarantee.¡±
Analyst Wayne Plucker, industry manager for aerospace at Frost & Sullivan, downplayed the importance of the contract to the company.
¡°It might lead to more layoffs and other adjustments internally, but I don¡¯t think it significantly affects them as a going concern,¡± he said. ¡°They just need to find another product niche.¡±
He said the Super Tucano was built specifically for this kind of mission, while the AT-6 is an adaption that wasn¡¯t perfect. Embraer has struggled to sell enough of the planes so it has priced them very aggressively.
U.S. Rep. Mike Pompeo, R-Wichita, said in an e-mailed statement that he was disappointed by the decision..
¡°I have already demanded answers from the Pentagon on why they made this very unfortunate decision, and will continue to do so,¡± he wrote. ¡°This contract is critical both to our nation¡¯s security and to jobs in Wichita, Kansas.
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2011, 09:29:55 AM »
"The piston planes are designed for counterinsurgency, close air support, armed overwatch and homeland security."


Also saw that response in the Wichita paper. The line above taken out of the companies own response demonstrates how screwed up they are getting. They do not even apparently know what kind of power plant they are putting in the plane. The plane is a TURBOPROP, i.e. powered by a jet turbine with a prop, not a piston engine powered plane.
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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2011, 10:33:34 AM »
Haven't followed this bit about drone... but Iranians have one of ours? How'd they get it? If we flew it over their territory w/o permission, loss is on us. If we bomb the thing to keep them from examining it, we have committed (another) act of war against them.
 
Not a good idea to do that.
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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2011, 10:54:48 AM »
  Some opine that the drone was intentionally given to Iran and that is why it is apparently not damaged.  That may not too surprising of a thought.  He already wants to "spread the wealth"...no surprise should he want to "spread the power".
   After all, another democrat loosened restrictions so an unscrupulous corporate fat cat could and did ..provide the Chicoms with valuable missle/space guidance systems.
   http://www.alamo-girl.com/0041.htm
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2011, 02:42:51 PM »
  Some opine that the drone was intentionally given to Iran and that is why it is apparently not damaged.  That may not too surprising of a thought.  He already wants to "spread the wealth"...no surprise should he want to "spread the power".
   After all, another democrat loosened restrictions so an unscrupulous corporate fat cat could and did ..provide the Chicoms with valuable missle/space guidance systems.
   http://www.alamo-girl.com/0041.htm

 
IG. Thats exactly what I believe, another gift from imam obama. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2011, 03:05:40 PM »
  Some opine that the drone was intentionally given to Iran and that is why it is apparently not damaged.  That may not too surprising of a thought.  He already wants to "spread the wealth"...no surprise should he want to "spread the power".
   After all, another democrat loosened restrictions so an unscrupulous corporate fat cat could and did ..provide the Chicoms with valuable missle/space guidance systems.
   http://www.alamo-girl.com/0041.htm


 You took the words right off my keyboard  ;)
 
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2011, 03:08:06 AM »
  TM says;
  "Your link is from a right winger hit site...apparently a Sarah Palin outfit.. ::)   They even site nutter Pam Geller's Atlas Shrugs site among others as reliable websites for info. They titled their article indicating Soros was behind the choice of EmBraer to build the AT-6, and citing it was an Air Force/DoD decision.  Then this is how they say Soros (Obama puppetmaster.. ;D ) is behind it all"
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  So we would be better off taking references from a conspiracy theorist or Islamist website ? 
 I'm relatively sure that many here appreciate the "Atlas Shrugged" website.
 
 
   BTW;  Here are numerous reasons why the aircraft contract should not be given to the Soros owned company in Brazil;
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C cont. E F G H I J L M N N cont. P Q R S T U V W Y Z
 
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2011, 06:40:56 AM »
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Ah, the nazi card.
 

 
 
 
Ever hear,, "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it" ?
 
 

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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2011, 10:09:41 AM »
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Ah, the nazi card.

 
Ever hear,, "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it" ?

I have heard that old cliche, M-G Willy, and probably used it a time or two. I guess that in this context, then, we could translate thus:
 
"Any nation with an indigeonous military aircraft industry, that does business with Iran, are bad guys and will shortly be burning jews in ovens" (or somesuch)
 
But that's just my off-the-cuff guess. What did you have in mind?
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Re: Obama refuses to retrieve or destroy the drone..
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2011, 10:41:49 AM »
 Since he (his highness) has plunged us into a near depression, I should think it behooves him to produce as many jobs as he possibly can right here in the USA !  No sense sending any more of our money off to an Iranian regime who advocates our destruction.
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