firedogs, I'm still waiting for the MN DNR to get back to me on the current status, re: 2004 Bear hunt. However, I have heard that late this month applications will start being accepted for hunting in the Northern Control Areas. (see GENO's site reference above to take you right to the DNR page that starts the application process) There are no state charges for the application, but I believe you will 'get a black mark' if you are selected and then don't purchase the licence. Also, I believe that there will be no changes to the Big Game & Bear Hunt sections printed in '03, at least none that would be significant. Too, as has been mentioned, about 50% of the state doesn't require pre-application, but these areas have few bears. the mileposts in the bear hunt are these: 30 March until about 10 May-apply for the area you want to hunt in. July: receive notice (or not) of getting a tag. The day after you get the notice: make final 'contract' with your guide. About a week after you get your notice- pay for your licence. 1 Sept: start hunting. (For non-controlled areas, you can get your tag the day before you start hunting) The DNR site has pages showing how the State is divided up into bear areas, and lists quite a few guides by area/town. For those who want a laugh, the DNR also has a list of "authorized" cartridges that you can use. Unless they've updated it, all the new cartridges haven't been listed yet.