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Offline jeremybeaner

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Muzzle Brake Question
« on: December 15, 2011, 06:49:14 AM »
Have any of you installed a Muzzle Brake on a Handi? if so do you have any pictures?
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Re: Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2011, 06:59:21 AM »
Jeremy, Welcome.  Type "Muzzle Brake" in the search block at the top of the page.  You should find lots of them here along with pros and cons about them.  Good luck.

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Re: Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2011, 07:26:52 AM »
As Pete said, brakes have been discussed a lot, you might also search for "breaks" since a lot of people use the wrong term. H&R even made factory UltraComps in 270 and 30-06, I have both of them, but won't shoot them with the brake installed, they're just too noisy for when hunting without wearing good hearing protection, and brakes are even worse for shooters next to me, both of the ranges I shoot at won't allow brakes to be used except in baffled firing positions.

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Re: Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2011, 07:34:05 AM »
I bought an Ultra Comp in 30-06.  I love it, and have never removed the brake.  I wear shooting protection to shoot and while hunting anyway.  I have lost a lot of my hearing, so I need the extra advantage nof hearing and wear the hearing inhancement muffs anyway.  They shut off the sound at 80 decibels anyway. 

One advantage, when shooting at longer ranges the brake channels the sound back behind the shooter.  Very little sound goes forward, making it hard to place where the sound came from.  Multiple animals in front,  the sound from a braked gun will not spook the other animals out in front.  Giving other hunters the chance of making a shot at the animals in the same group.

Works well on herd animals like Caribou, Moose, and Wolves.
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Re: Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2011, 08:46:12 AM »
I wouldn't own a braked rifle. They're annoying at the range and offer no real benefit to a hunter.
But.... to each their own.
 
 
 
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Re: Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2011, 09:35:51 AM »
+1 on the noise at the range.  I have one with an aftermarket brake and I only shoot it when I have the range to myself.  THe brake does a very nice job of reducing muzzle jump and as an added bonus it blows all the spent rimfire cases off the bench. ;D
 
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Re: Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2011, 10:36:08 AM »

Spanky:  You have that right to believe the way you do.  But I will disagree with you when you say they have no benefit to a hunter.  To me they have a great benefit.  Yes they are loud for the shooter, but muzzle jump is reduced or eliminated, to the point the shooter can watch the bullet strike.  That is important. 

Second the sound issue, the sound is channeled to the rear, making it harder for the animal to pinpoint where the sound came from.  A missed animal will stand there looking around trying to decide where the noise came from giving the hunter the chance for a corrected second shot.

As for the range, everyone should have hearing protection on or they should not be there, period.

My partner has a .50 cal BMG.  He has the Howitzer style brake on it.  We will be sitting shooting it, down at the end where no one else is set up.  A new family moves in during a clear where we are downrange replacing targets.  When we return I try and convince them they need to move.  No they don't want to hear it.  Norm makes his first shot.  The shockwave hits me, but I am expecting it.  The new group was not, and they get rocked to their socks.  Suddenly they decide it's time to move.  Yet Norm felt no recoil at all.  When that 750gr bullet hit the back stop, everything within five feet was obliterated. 
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Re: Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2011, 03:01:57 PM »
I know they can reduce recoil which I guess would be somewhat of a benefit... especially to a long range shooter wanting to watch impact. For the average shooter who takes an animal at ranges of 100yds or less I don't see the benefit.
Like I said though... to each his own. :)
 
 
 
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Re: Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2011, 04:44:21 AM »
I know of one exception to the "miserable to other shooters rule" with muzzle brakes... the AWC. My brother has one on a .25-06, and it is amazing. No side blast, no clearing the bench of loose items. The only way it increases the noise to the shooter or those around him is if there is a roof overhead. Outstanding recoil reduction. It also makes it almost impossible to determine where the shot came from. When we are hunting and I hear a shot that has no direction of origin, I know my brother has meat down. It does look like a suppressor, not all nice and blended in to the barrel, but it doesn't make your ears bleed, either!
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Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2011, 05:05:00 AM »
Do you have a link to where the AWC is reviewed/advertised? Now I'm curious.
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Re: Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2011, 12:37:12 AM »
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Re: Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 04:12:14 AM »
My brother has the original Hyper-Dyne. It is longer and doesn't have the slots, just the 3 holes.
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Re: Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 04:36:04 PM »
Is this a brake,which as I understand the term does NOT require paperwork and permits, or a "suppressor", which as I understand, does require permits etc.? I did not see a cost/ price anywhere there, so what does one run?
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Re: Muzzle Brake Question
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2011, 07:20:41 PM »
On their site it says it's a muzzle brake and not a suppressor.
http://www.awcsystech.com/accessories/muzzle-brakes/
 
 Their price list shows the brake on page 2 near the bottom:
 
http://www.awcsystech.com/awc_retail_pricing_10_2011.pdf
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