Author Topic: What does Fox news really think about R. Paul? (Read 3186 times)

Dee · « **Reply #30 on:** December 21, 2011, 03:05:49 PM »

Quote from: Singleshotsam on December 21, 2011, 02:53:49 PM

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Fox News doesn't "think" anything of Ron Paul. They report what they see.

Sorry but I've yet to see any major news outlet that was in the pocket of a political party ever unbiasly report "what they see." It's as skewed to the republican side of the line as the other outlets are skewed towards the democrats. The answer lies somewhere in between. Most people are too lazy to do the legwork to sift out the real news in between.

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sidewinder319 · « **Reply #31 on:** December 21, 2011, 05:34:44 PM »

Ron Paul is comic destraction. He is not going to be elected president. He was at his comic best on the very Left Wing David Letterman show last nite. The Left Wing loves this guy

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nw_hunter · « **Reply #32 on:** December 21, 2011, 06:25:13 PM »

Quote from: sidewinder319 on December 21, 2011, 05:34:44 PM

Ron Paul is comic destraction. He is not going to be elected president. He was at his comic best on the very Left Wing David Letterman show last nite. The Left Wing loves this guy .

LOL! Looks like there are quite a few of us on the right that do also.

Take away from Obama those left wingers like Letterman that love him, and Bingo! We could get a real Conservative in the Oval O. By the way, he was also the Leno show and was applauded.Wonder what that means?

blind ear · « **Reply #33 on:** December 21, 2011, 08:35:35 PM »

Quote from: BBF on December 21, 2011, 07:07:59 AM

If there was no Dr. Paul running, who would be your choice?

Whoever wants to reply, feel free.

The only OTHER CHOICE that will get us going in the right dirrection is a choice that gets us to the point of the US Constitution FAILURE quickest so that people will have to wake up and have to take action, if we want our country to survive as the constitutional nation of our founders.

Getting to the point, where things are bad enough, that the citizens will take action to correct the dirrection of our country and our country be able to survive the powers in place at that point is the question. Will we be able to overcome the position that we have allowed ourselves to get into.

Any OTHER choice will get us to that point of failure but some choices will be slower than others and will allow "The Powers That Be" more time to orchestrate measures that will make it harder for the citizenry to overcome them. The faster the better.

Ron Paul isn't an ideal but he is at least the right dirrection.

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Singleshotsam · « **Reply #34 on:** December 22, 2011, 12:17:18 AM »

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Ron Paul isn't an ideal but he is at least the right dirrection.

No, he isn't ideal, but then again no modern politician is ideal. When people want to wake up and realize that it's THEIR duty to control the government and stop letting the government control them, then you will see a true change in the right.

As far as Bill T's statement about Fox News not thinking anything about Ron Paul and giving him fair and even coverage as the other candidates...

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier

Dee · « **Reply #35 on:** December 22, 2011, 12:53:09 AM »

scootrd · « **Reply #36 on:** December 22, 2011, 03:41:06 AM »

I loved that sketch. Stewart has some great writers.

The Pew Research Center's Project for Excellence in Journalism did a study that showed Ron Paul has received the least overall coverage of any candidate from mainstream media outlets. The study measured mainstream exposure from 52 mainstream news outlets , newspapers, cable news, broadcast television, radio news, etc..

While Ron Paul is being ignored by the main stream media at large, the Internet is Buzzing , On the Net Ron Paul and his candidacy is doing great , 48% of the blogging conversation about Paul is positive compared with Romney at 34%.

In other words us old farts are still getting our filtered news (or in this case Non news) about Paul and his candidacy from lame stream media sources, However the Kids recognized the Ron Paul bias early on and took it to the internet in support of their candidate. (this is how the kids are getting their news nowdays). Ron Paul has the highest support among young voters.

The key is will they get off their duffs , move away from their computers and Ipads etc.. and exercise their actual right to vote, rather than just casting support for Ron Paul hyper space .

Semper Fi

nw_hunter · « **Reply #37 on:** December 22, 2011, 04:18:20 AM »

Quote from: Bill T on December 22, 2011, 02:47:47 AM

Quote from: Singleshotsam on December 22, 2011, 12:17:18 AM
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier

Your link to Jon Stewart's gag proves absolutely nothing. All of the excerpts are 4 MONTHS OLD. These polls change daily, much like Stewart's jokes. Just last week Newt Gingrich was at almost double over Romney. Now polls show he has fallen behind. And you want to use 4 month old political data taken by a comic to prove your point today? Are you serious?

Stewart is creative at putting together his political comedy. But to turn around and try to use it as an actual baseline to judge "fairness" in political commentary by the media, is a joke within itself. Especially when it's not yesterdays news, but 4 month old news!

How about Rasmussen polls?

Does this look like someone who is only popular with a handful of nut cases?Someone who is not electable?

Texas Congressman Ron Paul appears to be gaining in popularity among New Hampshire primary voters, with frontrunners Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich losing numbers, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports poll.

Paul's support increased to 18 percent in a statewide telephone poll of likely Republican primary voters conducted on Monday. Rasmussen pegged him at 14 percent in late November and 11 percent in late October.

It is Paul's best showing in the Granite State so far, Rasmussen said.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #38 on:** December 22, 2011, 04:21:25 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on December 22, 2011, 04:18:15 AM

NW_Hunter...did you notice CNN Blitzer and associate began their attack pillory of RP...going back 22 years and citing 'newsletter' snipets claiming RP is a racists and anti-semite. RP cut it short and walked out. As his popularity gains so will this sort of attack. Afterall, media is primarily there to support who is already chosen.

..TM7

"Ditto" And it's never been so obvious as this election year.

Read this Fox story, and somewhere near the end, they do mention Paul, even though he is the one surging in the polls, the mention of him is in a negative way. FOX is even more unfair and unbalanced than the other so called news media.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/22/gingrich-uses-precious-time-to-get-on-virginia-ballot/

scootrd · « **Reply #39 on:** December 22, 2011, 04:53:56 AM »

Quote from: nw_hunter on December 22, 2011, 04:18:20 AM

Quote from: Bill T on December 22, 2011, 02:47:47 AM
Quote from: Singleshotsam on December 22, 2011, 12:17:18 AM
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier

Your link to Jon Stewart's gag proves absolutely nothing. All of the excerpts are 4 MONTHS OLD. These polls change daily, much like Stewart's jokes. Just last week Newt Gingrich was at almost double over Romney. Now polls show he has fallen behind. And you want to use 4 month old political data taken by a comic to prove your point today? Are you serious?

Stewart is creative at putting together his political comedy. But to turn around and try to use it as an actual baseline to judge "fairness" in political commentary by the media, is a joke within itself. Especially when it's not yesterdays news, but 4 month old news!

How about Rasmussen polls? Does this look like someone who is only popular with a handful of nut cases?Someone who is not electable?

Texas Congressman Ron Paul appears to be gaining in popularity among New Hampshire primary voters, with frontrunners Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich losing numbers, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports poll.

Paul's support increased to 18 percent in a statewide telephone poll of likely Republican primary voters conducted on Monday. Rasmussen pegged him at 14 percent in late November and 11 percent in late October.

It is Paul's best showing in the Granite State so far, Rasmussen said.

I did see that !!!

Main stream media has truly missed the boat. Ron Paul has one of the best, most coordinated , well run , and energized campaigns. The more the message gets out the more folks are taking a second look at R.P. and recognizing his strategies and
approaches to problem solving of very complex issues make sense. What I find most distasteful is when he does get to speak, pundents continuously cut him off if they believe what he is saying begins to resonate with the listener. So all you get is his ability to provide partial answers for very complex issues.

However in cyberspace he has created the ability to carve out a space where his policies can be debated , commented on , and discussed in entirety. Those that are able to read his full positions in this uninterrupted space find very intelligent and well thought out strategies with which he proposes to implement to take this country forward.

scootrd · « **Reply #40 on:** December 22, 2011, 06:30:12 AM »

Quote from: Bill T on December 22, 2011, 05:53:50 AM

Quote from: nw_hunter on December 22, 2011, 04:18:20 AM
How about Rasmussen polls? Does this look like someone who is only popular with a handful of nut cases? Someone who is not electable?

The entire Middle East is on the verge of a violent breakdown. Ron Paul's "live and let live" attitude toward these people will grow less and less popular, as it becomes more and more violent over there. The American people will want to elect a tough President. We already have had a push over for 4 years, who has done nothing but blame the United States. The voters are not going to want to elect yet another one who will do much the same. The changing times will consume what little there is left of Ron Paul. This alone will shatter the fantasy of his "foreign policy", along with his candidacy.

I strongly disagree,
The american people want a leader who is intelligent enough to put our country first.
Our foreign policies have been abysmal for the last 8 years, and I argue (as Ron Paul does) our presence there makes us even less safe.

I believe Americans are tired of US regime building abroad, and meddling in others countries affairs, and conducting wars
that are not only unsustainable and bankrupting our economy but a misuse of our military forces as defenders of THIS nation.

Ron Paul has it right.

JMHO

Semper Fi

edited to add:

If you want to play the CIA operative game to gather itel, fine . Go for it if the powers to be think it will help keep us safe. But pulling troops out of those rat holes does not make us less safe. there is nothing ground troops can do if Iran does indeed ever produce a nuke. that we cant do from the push of a button thousands of mile away.

"The entire Middle East is on the verge of a violent breakdown"

and with regards to the ME being unstable .. when in thousands of years has that area of the world ever been stable.
The arguments not to pull the troops out holds no merit. and it's not our business to worry about a violent breakdown. we are not the world police.

Additionally , before we get a rewrite of history - not a single 9/11 bomber was an Iraqi, the majority were Saudi's with ties to Bin Ladin in Afghanistan, not Iraq. You know one of these guys..

Again Ron Paul is correct.
Bring 'em home and concentrate on securing our own borders not the borders of other countries.

Dee · « **Reply #41 on:** December 22, 2011, 09:39:22 AM »

blind ear · « **Reply #42 on:** December 22, 2011, 11:25:41 AM »

I quit watching the interview because of what was goihg on. ear

nw_hunter · « **Reply #43 on:** December 22, 2011, 12:22:56 PM »

Quote from: Bill T on December 22, 2011, 11:26:33 AM

Quote from: scootrd on December 22, 2011, 06:30:12 AM
I believe Americans are tired of US regime building abroad.

No one is talking about "regime building". And there is nothing wrong with bringing troops home from an unsustainable war. But Ron Paul is weak, or at least is perceived as such. Much like Hussein is. We are not respected, or taken seriously. As Trump said correctly, our enemies, along with China are laughing at us.

Paul would not use military force. He'll be yet another "blame America" President. Americans are sick and tired of that lame approch. Hussein has given us over 3 years of it, and a Ron Paul administration would just continue down that same weak minded path of, "it's all out fault". That is why Republicans will not nominate him, and Americans will not put him in the Presidency. You are right, Americans want a President that will put this nation FIRST. That includes above and before any foreign power. Ron Paul is much too weak in that regard. Allowing, and accepting a nuclear Iran is just one of many reasons I do not want him anywhere near 1600 North.

Enlighten us! Who do we need in the WH? Which one of the chosen.......Newt or Mitt will be the one to put the Nation first?

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #44 on:** December 22, 2011, 12:37:23 PM »

Quote from: Bill T on December 22, 2011, 12:30:14 PM

Quote from: nw_hunter on December 22, 2011, 12:22:56 PM
Which one of the chosen.......Newt or Mitt will be the one to put the Nation first?

Neither one has been "chosen", so I don't know how you want me to answer your question? I do know that both of them have repeatedly said if elected they will not tolerate a nuclear Iran, and because of that will not take the use of military force off the table to prevent it. Ron Paul has repeatedly said he doesn't see a nuclear Iran as a threat. You pick your own poison. I don't want a nuclear Iran, as most Americans do not. Ron Paul has no problem allowing that to happen. That is why he will never be President.

That's a great non answer Bill T. Instead of telling us who to vote for you told us who not to vote for.

I already asked you the same question in another thread, you didn't answer then either.

I'll ask one more time. Since you've already told us that Ron Paul is a bad choice, why don't you tell us who we should vote for and why?

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #45 on:** December 22, 2011, 12:53:08 PM »

Quote from: Bill T on December 22, 2011, 12:46:10 PM

Quote from: Doublebass73 on December 22, 2011, 12:37:23 PM
That's a great non answer Bill T. Instead of telling us who to vote for you told us who not to vote for.

I already asked you the same question in another thread, you didn't answer then either.

I'll ask one more time. Since you've already told us that Ron Paul is a bad choice, why don't you tell us who we should vote for and why?

I have said many times on this forum I will vote for the Republican front runner, regardless of who he is. Come on, it's not like you have all of these choices. A Presidential election isn't like going to Baskin Robbins.

So we should blindly follow the Republican party and vote for the front runner even if he's ultra liberal like Mitt Obamney, the father of Obamacare?

Graybeard · « **Reply #46 on:** December 22, 2011, 12:58:17 PM »

Bill T I told you to stop your smear campaign agains Ron Paul. I told you to stop posting to threads/discussions about Ron Paul. We've heard your views on the subject and don't want to keep having them thrown in our face.

So cease doing it or be banned from this site. No it won't be a temporary ban if you return to your attacks on him. Get a life. Pick a candidate and support them and end your smear campaign or take it elsewhere.

Cuts Crooked · « **Reply #47 on:** December 22, 2011, 01:02:16 PM »

One thing we do know fer sure....Ron Paul CAN beat Obama. The only real question is, "can he beat the GOP"?

http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/12/06/ron-paul-polls-strongest-against-obama/

Dee · « **Reply #48 on:** December 22, 2011, 01:23:40 PM »

Cuts Crooked · « **Reply #49 on:** December 22, 2011, 01:43:25 PM »

Dee, I really don't think you believe that after his most recent post............do you?

Dee · « **Reply #50 on:** December 22, 2011, 01:58:56 PM »

Quote from: Cuts Crooked on December 22, 2011, 01:43:25 PM

Dee, I really don't think you believe that after his most recent post............do you?

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lakota · « **Reply #51 on:** December 23, 2011, 10:09:25 AM »

Ron Paul must me scaring someone because they are attacking him over 20 year old "racist" newsletters and "negative" ads he is running in Iowa aimed at Newt Gingrich:

http://www.examiner.com/populist-in-national/ron-paul-ends-interview-with-cnn-video

I applaud him for walking out on the interview. He answered the questions and the witch continued to run the issue into the ground on her broom stick.

Why didnt the 2 faced media press Obama this hard in 2008 in regards to his buddy Jeremiah Wright?

nw_hunter · « **Reply #52 on:** December 23, 2011, 10:55:37 AM »

Quote from: lakota on December 23, 2011, 10:09:25 AM

Ron Paul must me scaring someone because they are attacking him over 20 year old "racist" newsletters and "negative" ads he is running in Iowa aimed at Newt Gingrich:

http://www.examiner.com/populist-in-national/ron-paul-ends-interview-with-cnn-video

I applaud him for walking out on the interview. He answered the questions and the witch continued to run the issue into the ground on her broom stick.

Why didnt the 2 faced media press Obama this hard in 2008 in regards to his buddy Jeremiah Wright?

I love it! The media ignored Ron Paul as long as they thought he didn't have a chance! Now that the numbers won't let them get by with it, they will now go into the attack mode.

They had better get use to it.................He ain't going away, even though they wish he would!

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #53 on:** December 24, 2011, 04:44:54 AM »

Quote from: lakota on December 23, 2011, 10:09:25 AM

Ron Paul must me scaring someone because they are attacking him over 20 year old "racist" newsletters and "negative" ads he is running in Iowa aimed at Newt Gingrich:

I've noticed this. Last couple of days, when I hit www.news.yahoo.com, one of the headlines stories is, "In ad for newsletter, Ron Paul forecast "race war"

No 'news' here, but the article is supposed to make news. I still like Dr Paul.

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Why didnt the 2 faced media press Obama this hard in 2008 in regards to his buddy Jeremiah Wright?

They're lazy. What they should also have done, when quoting Wright as saying 'God Damn America', is to have checked on & reported the context in which he said it. No such luck; such details wouldn't made as much impact as leaving out the truth.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #54 on:** December 24, 2011, 05:36:02 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on December 22, 2011, 04:18:15 AM

NW_Hunter...did you notice CNN Blitzer and associate began their attack pillory of RP...going back 22 years and citing 'newsletter' snipets claiming RP is a racists and anti-semite. RP cut it short and walked out. As his popularity gains so will this sort of attack. Afterall, media is primarily there to support who is already chosen.

..TM7

I support Newt, because he is able to go head-to-head with any news-person about things from 30 years ago. he admits his mistakes.
I just can't support someone who walks out on interviews. doing so makes his arguments seem weak and ineffective.
as for news coverage, I've seen plenty of RP and his boy Rand on fox and fox lets them both tell their points. Rand would be a good candidate, not his dad.