Author Topic: Reed ammo? WTheck??? (Read 1899 times)

spartacus1239 · « **on:** December 17, 2011, 12:19:24 PM »

So i order some .357 Max ammo from http://shop.reedsammo.com/main.sc and they send me this???

"We need your FOID and ammunition statement on file before we can ship this order."

?

I just want to buy some ammo.... why would they send this?

Lon371 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 17, 2011, 12:31:29 PM »

Probably depends on what state your in.

Lonny

OR-E-Gun Bill · « **Reply #2 on:** December 17, 2011, 12:53:10 PM »

Ah yes, the old FOID (Firearms Owner ID)
One of the reasons I moved out of Illinois many years ago.

From the Illinois State Police website:
Unless specifically exempted by statute, any Illinois resident who acquires or possesses firearm or firearm ammunition within the State must have in their possession a valid Firearm Owner's Identification (FOID) card issued in his or her name.

Merry CHRISTmas

Bill

cwlongshot · « **Reply #3 on:** December 17, 2011, 12:54:58 PM »

Quote from: Lon371 on December 17, 2011, 12:31:29 PM

Probably depends on what state your in.

Lonny

I agree, BUT its more than that for some companies... Take Sportsmans Guide. They will not send me a knife. There is NO limitations on such shipments to Connecticut and of coarse I am old enough,

BUT they will not ship it. Another BUT.. They just shipped me 10 boxes of 12 Ga slugs, NO PROBLEM.

My point sometimes it makes no sence at all...

CW

spartacus1239 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 17, 2011, 01:18:45 PM »

i have aFOID.. but what the heck is an ammunition statement? even ordering within my state... I have never had any one ask me for this?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** December 17, 2011, 01:29:13 PM »

I've been asked for a copy of my driver's license when buying ammo which can't be sold to a minor, that would be one reason they'd ask for documentation, to determine your age. If you read their terms and conditions as required when you go to their online page, you'll see why.

Tim

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We supply a wide variety of pistols, rifles, custom ammunition, accessories, and reloading components. Check our online store to see what we have available.
If you have not ordered from us before; Please read our terms and condition page.

http://www.reedsammo.com/Ammunition_Statement.html

http://www.reedsammo.com/Terms___Conditions.html

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•Consumer Agreement
•Before we will ship you ammunition, we will need your ID and ammunition statement on file. You may use the page on the site (some restrictions for local) mail it in or e-mail it in. If you e-mail it in it must be in either .jpg or .gif format and may not exceed 1MB in size. Acceptable forms of ID are any government issued identification (i.e. drivers license, military ID, law enforcement ID, passport, or FFL). The ammunition statement is simply the following written or typed and signed: “I am over 21 years of age <> and there are no laws prohibiting me from owning or buying ammunition.” You may also e-mail us the following statement: "I am over 21 years of age, and there are no State or Federal laws prohibiting me from buying this ammunition. My State issued ID number is _________; this is my virtual signature." CA residents must mail or e-mail a copy of their actual license or other offical ID, ammunition will not be sent to any other address than that which is listed on the ID. IL residents must mail or e-mail a copy of their FOID No sales of ammunition to the following: Mass., NY City, Los Angeles, San Fransico, Wash DC, or New Jersey Except for the warranty that the goods are made in a workmanlike manner and in accordance with the specifications therefore supplied or agreed to by the buyer and are made or packaged pursuant to the seller's customary manufacturing procedures. Seller makes no warranty express or implied, and any implied warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose which exceeds the foregoing warranty is hereby disclaimed by seller and excluded from any agreement made by acceptance with any order pursuant to this quotation. Seller will not be liable for any consequential damages, loss or expense arising in connection with the use of or the inability to use its goods for any purpose whatever. Seller's maximum liability shall not in any case exceed the contract price for goods claimed to be defective or unsuitable. Prices subject to change without notice, prices reflect cash price. Not responsible for typographical errors. By purchasing any products from Reed's Ammunition & Research, LLC you are agreeing to all terms and conditions listed in this web site.

Dinny · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2011, 01:57:20 PM »

Thank the State of Illinois for your problems. It has always been a hassle for me to order ammo. I would routinely have it sent to my family in IN and then pick it up when visiting them the following weekend.

Thanks, Dinny

spartacus1239 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:18:31 PM »

never had any issue with any other place I have ever bought ammo from.... send them a pdf of my FOID and the ammo comes to me. I am not in Cook county. therefor not an automatic criminal in the states eyes...... I have no idea what an "ammunition statement" is?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:21:32 PM »

Quote from: spartacus1239 on December 17, 2011, 02:18:31 PM

I have no idea what an "ammunition statement" is?

Read my previous reply!

Tim

spartacus1239 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:28:02 PM »

did, still rediculous! Illinois makes you feel like a criminal even tho you have done noting wrong. all because of one messed up area of the state

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:31:54 PM »

It's not just for Illinois, it's for anyone buying ammo from them, I've had to do it for Grafs, Midsouth, Bulleye Ammo and Midway IIRC, they can't legally sell ammo to just anyone.

Tim

spartacus1239 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:36:07 PM »

hmmm, i just got ammo in form other sources and did not have to do this. just weird.... sent them what they wanted. hope I can get the ammo?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:42:13 PM »

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html#possession-restrictions

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Q: Are there certain persons who cannot legally receive or possess firearms and/or ammunition?
Yes, a person who —
1.Has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year;
2.Is a fugitive from justice;
3.Is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance;
4.Has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to a mental institution;
5.Is an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa;
6.Has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;
7.Having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his or her citizenship;
8.Is subject to a court order that restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner; or
9.Has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence
10.Cannot lawfully receive, possess, ship, or transport a firearm.

A person who is under indictment or information for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year cannot lawfully receive a firearm.

Such person may continue to lawfully possess firearms obtained prior to the indictment or information.

[18 U.S.C. 922(g) and (n), 27 CFR 478.32]

spartacus1239 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:45:19 PM »

HA! I am 0 for 10!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:49:20 PM »

Quote from: spartacus1239 on December 17, 2011, 02:45:19 PM

HA! I am 0 for 10!

But the retailer doesn't know how old you are, the first sentence of the Ammunition Statement is I am of legal age to purchase ammunition. That should give you a hint as to what they need.

Tim

http://www.reedsammo.com/Ammunition_Statement.html

quickdtoo · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2011, 03:00:15 PM »

There are other ways of making sure they're making a legal sale without the required documentation, I just checked Midway, when you check out when submitting the order, this statement is at the bottom of the page:

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*By clicking on a "Place Order" button above, you are verifying that you understand the following:

MidwayUSA offers some products that may be restricted by Federal, State and/or Local laws. We do not authorize the right to purchase any products that may be restricted in your area.

You must be at least 21 years of age to purchase certain products such as airguns, ammunition, black powder products, knives or reloading components. Under Federal law 18 U.S.C. 922(D)(1)-(9), persons with a legal disability are also restricted from purchasing certain products.

spartacus1239 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2011, 03:29:52 PM »

it make sense... just hope I can get my ammo...

ibgp3 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 18, 2011, 01:54:04 AM »

Kinda on the subject:
Does any one sell maxi ammo that wasn't made with Remington Brass?

Spanky · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2011, 02:11:03 AM »

If and when you get the Maxi ammo from them you will like it.

I got a box of their 200gr. hardcast ammo for my Maxi and it shoots great. They are good folks to deal with.

Spanky

cwlongshot · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2011, 02:13:33 AM »

Quote from: ibgp3 on December 18, 2011, 01:54:04 AM

Kinda on the subject:
Does any one sell maxi ammo that wasn't made with Remington Brass?

No one else has made Maxi Brass is some time. Federal did as did Winchester, but not any longer... SO its quite doubtful you will find any.

CW

ibgp3 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 18, 2011, 02:28:45 AM »

No one else has made Maxi Brass in some time. Federal did as did Winchester, but not any longer... SO its quite doubtful you will find any.

CW

Thanks, it just occurred to me that someone might be working from a large inventory.
I'm necking down some maxi's for a wildcat, and I should test any brass that is still available.

spartacus1239 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 18, 2011, 04:14:54 AM »

worker it out with Reeds ammo. Just weird for me have never had to do a "statement?" but all is good now. hope the ammo shoots well.

OldSchoolRanger · « **Reply #22 on:** December 18, 2011, 07:34:24 AM »

A lot of weird rules for these companies are set up by their attorneys. They don't want to run afoul of the liberal establishment.
I had a problem, with Bass Pro stores. They refused to sell me a BP rifle because of my zip code. After I called them, they said that it was because, I lived in NYC. I told them to check a map, and that they would discover that, I don't live within 70 miles of that place. Regardless, they refused to sell me the BP rifle. So I bought it from Cabellas instead. I refused to purchase anything from Bass Pro after that, even though they send me email specials all the time.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #23 on:** December 18, 2011, 08:00:40 AM »

Quote from: cwlongshot on December 18, 2011, 02:13:33 AM

Quote from: ibgp3 on December 18, 2011, 01:54:04 AM
Kinda on the subject:
Does any one sell maxi ammo that wasn't made with Remington Brass?
No one else has made Maxi Brass is some time. Federal did as did Winchester, but not any longer... SO its quite doubtful you will find any.

CW

I dunno who made it, but Dan Wesson 357 Max ammo has a Dan Wesson headstamp, it's also nickel IIRC, probably made by Rem.

http://www.bullseyeshootingsupplies.com/default.aspx

They as well as Midsouth also have a document requirement to buy ammo.

http://www.bullseyeshootingsupplies.com/

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/forms/Letter_of_intent.pdf

spartacus1239 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 18, 2011, 08:11:41 AM »

very nice. saved both and will fill out and scan. just so i have one ready for the future.

keith44 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 18, 2011, 01:07:49 PM »

I have done business with the same places for so long I had forgotten all the hoops ya have to jump through. I have even mail ordered cannons (scale size not full sized) capable of live firing without question. Reading all this reminded me of filling out all the statements of eligibility once these are on file with a seller, they should not question an order from an established customer.

Darreld Walton · « **Reply #26 on:** December 19, 2011, 08:22:04 AM »

The last loaded ammunition I purchased was a bunch of .30 caliber M2 Ball from the CMP. Was priced low enough that I couldn't load it to feed my Garand and 03's and match the cost. But then, they've had the equivalent of a 4473 on file for me since I bought my first rifle from them years ago. Otherwise, all I buy online is components. Found it interesting after the last election that when I finally found two kegs of Varget, they were shipped, then held up somewhere in the midwest for "additional inspection by an unnamed government agency".......what in the world!!!

spartacus1239 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 19, 2011, 08:25:30 AM »

Will say one thing for Reeds Ammo. VERY fast shipping. They had it ready to go this morning!