NIST where are YOU? Experiments with Thermite and Thermate at home..

[TM7]

Interesting!!....NIST is M.I.A.....and engineer does a few experiments at home using physical science instead of political science..
 
[embed=425,349]http://youtu.be/LNOM_U5UM6Q[/embed]

[Nuke41]

 
Nice carrot peeler.
 
 

[kinslayer1965]

Nuke 41,
 
I agree. I also found nothing else while watching that video (theres another 14 minutes of my life wasted) that is applicable to what happened on 9/11.
 
 Unlessssssss
 
1.  Someone managed to plant thousands of pounds of the stuff in the buildings, strategically placed against structural columns, on different floors for each building and installed a firing mechanism that could withstand 1..5 billion ftlbs of energy exerted upon it and still be ready to go an hour later.
 
2.  Then get two different teams of radical muslims (led by mossad...maybe...maybe not) to fly hijacked jumbo jets into two specific but different floors for each building.
 
3.  The mastermind of this whole situation instead of immediately triggering his diabloical thermite or thermate, waits for a peroid of time before triggering the first, and then waits even longer before triggering the second, when if he had triggered them the moment the jumbo jets hit the loss of life would have been 10 times higher and would have caused an even higher level of muslim and islam hating in this county. Which as everybody knows would have helped Israel (who we all know did this) even more.
 
Call me crazy....it still seems kind of farfetched to me......
 
Happy New Year to everyone.
 
CR

[Nuke41]

 
Kinslayer, you’ve almost got it solved!
- The weekend prior to 9/11 the Mossad/Lockheed Martin/Halliburton cabal placed tons of super-nano-miracle thermite on all the supporting columns of the WTC.  They killed and replaced all the normal weekend staff that noticed and replaced them with duplicate looking robots.
- On 9/11 the Mossad/Lockheed Martin/Halliburton cabal warned all the Jews to stay at home that day.
- The planes were high jacked by Halliburton pilots and flown to Burpelson Air Force Base where most the passengers were fed into an industrial sized Fargo style wood chipper.  A few passengers had their memories wiped and were placed into the Halliburton black ops assassin program.  They were later used up in the Mumbai attacks.
- The planes were then piloted by trained chimpanzees; that got a banana chip every minute if they stayed on course to their targets.
-  After the planes smashed into the WTC and Pentagon the super-nano-miracle thermite charges were blown.  They accidentally blew the WTC buildings in the wrong order, so they decided to go ahead and blow up WTC 7 to distract everyone.
- Seeing how successful the operation had been, the Mossad/Lockheed Martin/Halliburton cabal worried that Bush might freak out and nuke the Middle East if the Capital was destroyed by the chimps flying flight 93, so they ordered a stealth Aurora fighter to shoot it down over PA.
- On the evening of 9/11 Dick Cheney retreated to a darkened chamber and said prayers to his Overlord.
OK, maybe that’s not exactly how it went down, but its close enough and is as good as anything else I’ve seen on this forum.
 

[gypsyman]

TM, just for the sake of arguement, lets say your right about this being an inside job from the Bush administration.Any idea how many people it would take to set something like this up, and how long would it take? We keep hearing of how there was a conspiracy behind 9/11. But so far, nobody has stepped forward and said, so and so planted thermite/thermate/dynamite or any other explosive. It must have taken a tremendous amount of planning and man hours to do what your suggesting. Yet, over 10 years after the fact, I/we have yet to see the first face put to the conspiracy. Other than Bush and Cheney. And, other than the truthers saying one was to dumb, and the other to busy making money, I really don't think they could have pulled it off themselves. Give me a face and a name, and we'll go from there. gypsyman

[Casull]

Thank you.  This put a smile on my face.

[Nuke41]

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Probably about 100 key subverters required or less...the rest comparmentalized staff.   
..TM7
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100 people to carry out 9/11 as a conspiracy, wow, that’s incredible.  Just out of curiosity, have you personally ever been in charge of or participated in anything of a large scale or nature?

[Nuke41]

"You have!?--What's your point dude..?  That the 911 hoax was too complex, sophisticated, and difficult for ragheads living in Afghani caves with cell phones to pulloff...??
 
...TM7."
 
   As retired military and since then as a program manager and analyst I have indeed participated in, helped plan and execute and in a couple of cases led large and complex actions and events.  My point is that if you lack the educational background or life/professional experiences in dealing with large scale events you don’t have the ability to evaluate the conspiracy theories you spend so much time espousing. 

I’ve read through the 9/11 commission report and I’ve read and watched anything else I could find on 9/11 in the years since.  I think enacting 9/11 as a conspiracy would require thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of people and would require the support of the top leadership and agencies of the US government.  Such a conspiracy would rival the moon landings in complexity from a program management stand point.  I find your assessment that 9/11 could have been planned and executed with 100 people to be ludicrous.  The other thing my experience tells me is that no plan, especially complex ones, survives execution unscathed.  Something as complex as a false flag 9/11 attack would have inevitably left solid evidence, and not the odd things taken out of context that conspiracy theorists hang their hats on.

As to your suggestion that the “ragheads” couldn’t have carried off 9/11, the last time I fought them was in 2006 and I found them to be a very capable and creative enemy that accomplished impressive results with very minimal resources, since my last tour they appear to have gotten much better operationally.  If you want to understand their true capabilities I suggest you go to your local military recruiter, they can organize a nice year long Afghan insurgent orientation program for you.

[Nuke41]

yet adhere to the OCTheory that 19 scawrny Saudies who couldn't really fly, high on Koran, commandered airliners, let cell phone calls  go out, exceeded airframe limits and quided accurately into three buildings causing simulataneous complete freefall demolitions of three buildings in one day (one not hit by an airliner!) Go back to your staff and have a statician calculate the probability of this happening!.....
...TM7

What I’ll never understand is why conspiracy theorists always find the 9/11 attacks committed by Al Qaida as so unbelievable that they must create a massively more complex scenario to explain it instead.

The difference between you and I is I’ve fought Al Qaida and the Taliban and you haven’t.  Continue to underestimate them at your and the Nations peril.

[Nuke41]

I've been around the world 5 times,,,I've travelled in many moslem countries in more peacefull times. The difference between you and me is that your travelled in war, and I travelled in peace. R adical Moslems in 2001 do not then or now have the capability of pulling off the Terror Attack of the Century...maybe a few car bombs or grenade throwing can be blamed on them,,,but something of this magnitude they don't have the capability--except to be blamed for it.
...TM7

So your motivation for 9/11 as a nefarious conspiracy is based primarily on lack of belief they could pull it off?  Well maybe I’m a better gauge on what the Islamic world can do on the destructive end of things since I’ve seen them at their destructive best and not simply as a tourist?
You keep cutting and pasting “proof” of the conspiracy of 9/11, and yet there is an even larger body of study that supports 9/11 as what it appears to be; an attack by Al Qaida that was mostly operationally successful (Flight 93 being the unsuccessful one).  If this was bigfoot, Elvis, the moon landings (you do believe we landed on the moon don’t you?) or something similarly inconsequential I wouldn’t care, but the “truther” movement is committed to denying a serious and capable enemy of Western civilization while at the same time provoking mistrust of our government and allies, and that’s something we can’t afford.
I’ll end this now and give you the last word, since I’m sure you won’t stop posting until you have it.