Author Topic: The new caliber! (Read 1586 times)

mannyrock · « **on:** December 20, 2011, 06:46:56 AM »

Dear Guys,

Has anyone ever built a bolt action rifle in the new "umpteen-ought-ump" caliber?

I've heard that the shell holds a full grain of powder more, and travels 25 feet per second faster at 400 yards, than the old "umpteen-ought-oomp" caliber.

In real world terms, this tranlates into 9 feet of extra range at 400 yards, and 4 foot pounds of extra power!

I think it would be just the thing for Rocky Montain Elk and Texas Mulies.

I just gotta have one!

Merry Christmans,
Mannyrock

no guns here · « **Reply #1 on:** December 20, 2011, 07:21:51 AM »

Manny,

You been drinkin' again???

NGH

Rock Home Isle · « **Reply #2 on:** December 20, 2011, 07:27:53 AM »

I love to read mannyrock's posts...this one had me...confused???

mannyrock....Dude, You feelin okay today?

PowPow · « **Reply #3 on:** December 20, 2011, 07:49:14 AM »

If you build that rifle, make sure the barrel is made of unobtainium.

Rock Home Isle · « **Reply #4 on:** December 20, 2011, 07:52:40 AM »

Quote from: PowPow on December 20, 2011, 07:49:14 AM

If you build that rifle, make sure the barrel is made of unobtainium.

Awesome!!!...I'm down for that as well.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #5 on:** December 20, 2011, 08:37:18 AM »

I'm waiting for Remington to release the Ultra.

ironglow · « **Reply #6 on:** December 20, 2011, 09:00:34 AM »

Got my copy of American Hunter just yesterday...there on the back cover was a new (at least to me) round..
The .17 hornet, by Hornady..

Huffmanite · « **Reply #7 on:** December 22, 2011, 12:25:53 PM »

Dang!!!!!!!! He never said the cartridge, now I'll have to research it. Egads!!!!!

Ex 49'er · « **Reply #8 on:** January 01, 2012, 04:30:24 PM »

Quote from: Huffmanite on December 22, 2011, 12:25:53 PM

Dang!!!!!!!! He never said the cartridge, now I'll have to research it. Egads!!!!!

Probably a 20mm Vulcan necked down to 6.8!

Ron 1 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 02, 2012, 01:46:49 AM »

Quote from: Ex 49'er on January 01, 2012, 04:30:24 PM

Quote from: Huffmanite on December 22, 2011, 12:25:53 PM
Dang!!!!!!!! He never said the cartridge, now I'll have to research it. Egads!!!!!

Probably a 20mm Vulcan necked down to 6.8!

hhuummm now im thinking.. but what would i hunt with that?

wild willy · « **Reply #10 on:** January 02, 2012, 02:40:03 AM »

Manny you should think about the ackley improved version.You'll gain 14.5 inches of range and .75 foot lbs of energy

mannyrock · « **Reply #11 on:** January 02, 2012, 04:11:49 AM »

Wow Willy, I'm floored. If what you say about the ackley version is true, then that would mean the new cartridge comes within a hair's breadth of the classic Hoopla H&H, which everyone knows was used by Dr. Seuss to kill 10,000 elephants in Botswana in 1905. All of that with almost a half pound less recoil!

Who says there's no room for new cartridges!

I'm gonna sell all of my Remington SAUMs and RUMs to get one! They are old hat now.

Course, it's winter and my wife is screaming that I gotta buy my little girl a new pair of shoes, but these kids have got to learn to put a piece of stiff cardboard in the bottom and cowboy up. It's only snow for god's sake, not molten lava!

Manny

bobg · « **Reply #12 on:** January 02, 2012, 05:50:22 AM »

I had one built by Screw Up gun works. Kicked like crazy and was not very accurate. Save your money. Didn't keep it very long.

ardeekay · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2012, 02:41:38 AM »

I gots a 333 Magnesium in a Remchester action that I will be trading in on one wen dey comme owt.... ardeekay

max1138 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 07, 2012, 07:35:43 PM »

sadly no, I have not gone to the new super-ultra whizbang calibers, It appears I am woefully behind the times. my main battery consists of 30-30, 270 win, and 35 whelen. the newest of these was introduced over 85 years ago.(yes, I know the whelen was only legitimized in the 80's but its been around since 1922 so it still counts as an octogenarian)
for all the decrepitude I have never felt under-gunned and certainly no game animal Ive shot has ran away laughing at my puny old cartridges, they all generally just lay down and die right there If I do my part and put the bullet in the right place.
given unlimited funds and time for load development I would like to try em all, but since ed McMahon passed away he isnt likely to be showing up at my door to fund such a plan so my oldies and I continue on harvesting game every year in spite of our advancing age.

I have no qualms about shooting a a whitetail with a 130 grain bullet out of a 270 moving at a measly 2900fps I have never said " huh if that bullet had been moving another 400 fps faster that deer would have died a whole lot quicker," just doesnt work that way.
given that I dont take shots much past 300 yards with any weapon anymore I think Im good for a while yet with either the whelen or the 270 and I try to get a lot closer than that like 100 yards or less so my 30-30 would actually cover most of my needs

StrawHat · « **Reply #15 on:** January 08, 2012, 01:30:07 AM »

I had been thinking about the newfangled 45-70 as a replacement for my 50-70 and now you tell me about the "umpteen-ought-ump" cartridge! Is it chambered in a Trapdoor? I am not real familiar with the bolt action thing you're talking about.

PowPow · « **Reply #16 on:** January 08, 2012, 01:55:16 AM »

Everytime I read updates to this post, I am reminded of Joe Piscapo's line in the movie "Johnny Dangerously":
Its an 88 magnum; it shoots through schools

teamnelson · « **Reply #17 on:** January 08, 2012, 02:31:07 AM »

manny, just read the review on the new umpty ought ump in Tacticool Living ... man, I'm drooling. I'm going to get an upper in it for my Bushmaster. I heard on the internet that the military is going to convert their sidearm to that caliber, so I figure to jump in early so I can take advantage of the flood of ammo that'll be coming. I've got an awesome Norinco reflex sight all ready to put on it when it comes.

But before I order the upper, which twist rate would you recommend for heavy cast bullets? I'm getting a 14" barrel with a 2.5" flashhider permanently welded on.

Thanks!

mannyrock · « **Reply #18 on:** January 08, 2012, 03:50:41 AM »

Team,

Forgot to tell you. The twist rate is 1 in 1. So, you have to make your own barrel. Or, you can get one from Brownell's for just $5,000.

The good news is they really stabilize those 235.893 grain hard cast bullets, but instead of adding antimony, ya have to add silver.

And yes, I got it straight from a Special Forces guy, who heard it from a SEAL, who heard it from a CIA Op, that the military is converting all ARs to this caliber, and that NATO has secretly approved it. Just think, a single caliber for world wide combat!

All of the gun magazines are going to feature articles about it next month, and there will be ten glossy print ads of the new round and rifles, featuring scantily clad Asian women in black evening gowns., And best of all, the Hell-Fire trigger system will soon be available for it! Sell all of your other rifles now! You won't need them after this!

Manny

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #19 on:** January 08, 2012, 05:42:14 AM »

The silver alloy is for civilian use. Military will be using Depleted Uranium rounds. Got an old buddy who works in weapons procurement at the pentagon who says they will be hard to find on the open market. That's a deal breaker for me, without the DU it's just a heavy Stoner direct impingement design, meh.