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Offline twoshooter

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Strange times.........
« on: December 22, 2011, 05:58:53 PM »
When I first really  got into guns in the early 60's, things were booming. New things were right and left, I remember when the 22-250 became factory, and the 600 Remington "Short magnums" came out. A friend of mine and I put in orders for new Remingtons, he for the first year factory 25-06, me for a second year 700 BDL Varmint Special in 243. The Roberts was fading, the 225 Win going out, the 6mm rising. The 264 Win mag was the long range varmint champ. There was something new every month, like I phones today.
Then came a radical slowdown. Literally, for decades there was not much new development in rifles, and short guns and shotguns was even less. The 16 ga died , the 28 almost did. The 12 and 20 are pretty much it. There are only 5 handgun cartridges basically, 3 autos and 2 revolvers. If the 40 S&W had not captured so much police market there would only be 4.......
I picked up a new TC book today and went through it. Kind of amazing really, how little is there. They have all high pressure cartridges in the encores etc. They have 3 Rimmed cartridges, 45/70. 460 & 500 S&W's. I think of all the Ultra Mags, short mags, super short mags, where are they all now?
Has becoming a handiholic just warped my brain, or do weird people just gravitate here, thereby explaining my presence ? I felt some disappointment with the handis until I looked back into the world at large, I feel MUCH better now. There must be some psychiatric reason for this , why else would I get a ripple of excitement from handling that little Trapper, and a large yawn from the Ultra mag and black rifle section ? I even considered cleaning up a bunch of 223 brass just in case this 30 AAC thing becomes a reality, and maybe ordering dies for it. Why is the thought of making one thing that is plentiful into something else scarce thrilling? Is this alchemy ,like the old "lead into gold" thing ? I do know that hard times crimp R&D in many if not most areas and industries. and ours is no different. Perhaps that is why the excitement is here. If you buy a new Remington Ultra mag for a grand, that is what it is. If you buy a 357 barrel for 125$, it could become a Maxi, or a 35 rem, or 356, or 358, or a herrett. And basic 06 brass can become 25,27,7mm, 35 caliber, with 308 brass you become 6mm.6.5mm,7mm,30,338,358. Maybe that is the appeal about the handi, when you buy one, it's not about the gun, it's about YOU, and what you choose to do with it. Like the difference between a painter, and an artist........
Oh well, to much cold medication does this occasionally. Night all.
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Re: Strange times.........
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2011, 07:12:47 PM »
What really amazes me is how you can remember so vividly what happened back in the 60's which to me seems a blurr.
 
I still haven't figured out how an old man can get all excited about buying a used barrel that he knows only has about a 50/50 chance of fitting his reciever, and then looking forward to getting the chance to shim it to make it fit.
 
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Re: Strange times.........
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2011, 07:57:51 AM »
What really amazes me is how you can remember so vividly what happened back in the 60's which to me seems a blurr.
 

Jim, you must have been a good time during those years . . .  ;D
 
 
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Re: Strange times.........
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2011, 09:13:23 AM »
Has becoming a handiholic just warped my brain, or do weird people just gravitate here,

Yeah, the neat part is, everyone seems to fit right in.
 
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Remember the 60's? Alot of it spilled over into the 70's!  ???   8)
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Re: Strange times.........
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2011, 12:25:28 PM »
There was a 70's?  :o

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Re: Strange times.........
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2011, 02:37:36 PM »
There was a 70's?  :o

I have tattoos from the 70s but that is about all I can remember from that time. 
 
Nice post twoshooter.
 
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Re: Strange times.........
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2011, 02:44:52 PM »
yall really don't remember much from tha 60's or 70's ??
 
i did'nt miss much in them days......but i was missed alot  ;)
 
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seems like it was just last year to me.  both good and bad memories.
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Re: Strange times.........
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2011, 02:59:52 PM »
Seems the first part of those 60's was a lot of fun, did a lot of hunting and fishing, and playing with cars, and chasing the girls, but then ole Uncle Sammy said wait up boy, you done had enough time for playin and now I'm needing you to earn your way, and that is when things started getting a bit fuzzy.
 
Yep, there were some good times even during the bad, and if I had it to do over, I'd do it again!
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Re: Strange times.........
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2011, 11:18:27 PM »
Most of us over 65 or so will tell you the 50s were the best years.  Mom was home with the kids and we survived on just one paycheck.  Of course we weren't spending money on a host of new electronics and technology that didn't exist.

The Handiholic seed was planted about 4 years ago when I bought my first one.....a 22inch .45-70.  Now I'm hopelessly mired in them.  I have a letch, inspired by the .45-70, for the old time calibers.  I have the .45LC, .38-55, and now a .32-20 and a soon to be .356.  My .357 grew to be a Maxi, and my .44 Mag became a .445 Super Magnum.  What's gonna be new next week?

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Re: Strange times.........
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2011, 03:41:20 AM »
Not trying to sound morbid, but I wish I could forget a lot that happened in the mid to late 60's and 70's
Too many names on the wall
 Helmets on the butts of M16's stuck in the ground
 GI's coming home to disrespect and scorned
 The battles were won
 But the war was lost
 All at a terrible cost.
 All in all I am glad I did my part
 Because it came from my heart
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  it's where you hit em "

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Re: Strange times.........
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2011, 07:14:35 AM »
Jeep, the mind is a snakepit, at least mine is.......
If I had it to do over again, Id only do the good parts  ;) ; this site helps.
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Re: Strange times.........
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2011, 07:27:01 AM »
Well said ,  GC
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  it's where you hit em "