Author Topic: Shotgun Adapters? (Read 37689 times)

evidrine · « **Reply #60 on:** February 16, 2012, 09:39:00 AM »

I am thinking of ordering the .410 to .22 converter also. I will be very eager to hear how well it shoots. I have a .410/.45lc single shot pistol that I will be using it in. I am hoping that with the .22 converter it will make a nice little camp gun.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #61 on:** February 16, 2012, 10:10:33 AM »

My thinking exactly evidrine, if I can get good accuracy at 10 to 15 yards I will be very happy with them. Being a bowhunter (traditional longbow with home made wooden arrows) I know you can get much closer to wild game than most gun hunters realize, as I once thought myself. As an addittion to my camp/canoe/truck guns a nice little .22 LR adapter that is accurate out to 10 or 15 yards would insure that you would never go hungry while out on an extended camping trip or mutli day hike. It would also be great for a camp gun to dispatch pesky varmints around the camp. With the many different types of .22 LR ammo available, from Colibris, to high speed LR's, and to shot shells there would be many uses it could be out to. Also carried in a storearm foream with a box or 2 of ammo or in a Survivor stock it would insure you were covered for a long time in the woods....<><....

MSP Ret · « **Reply #62 on:** February 16, 2012, 10:17:49 AM »

Hey guys, I wanted to let you know that the owner of http://www.gunadapters.com/categories/Shotgun-Adapters/12-gauge/ seems to be a nice guy. I called a couple of times but got no answer, however the website and the answering machine does say that during the middle of the week they are in the shop working and that Monday and Friday are the best days to try to reach them on the phone. I sent them a e-mail and in a day or so he (Ray) responded by e-mail and took care of me just great.
I sent in my order and payment this morning and just a couple of minutes ag I got a call from his daughter, a fine young lady. She assured my my adapters will be going out within a few days and I told her about this site. I think she will come here to look around and hope she enjoys it..
I'll let everyone know how they work out after I get then and shoot them....<><....

rio grande · « **Reply #63 on:** February 17, 2012, 05:31:15 PM »

Quote from: jpshaw on January 25, 2012, 03:10:47 AM

Has anyone ever used Dinaarms. They sure want to know a lot about me while not letting me know their phone number, address or anything at all. It's "give me your credit card number" I really want that .22 adaptor but they are very vaque about themselves.

I have ordered one adapter from Dina Arms. They were a few days slow on delivery as far as I was concerned, but not too bad. I will order again. And the adapter works well. Has an o-ring that holds the round tight in the adapter so the adapter can be used in a pump shotgun.
Made of aluminum and the rifling didn't look good but the adapter is accurate.

rio grande · « **Reply #64 on:** February 17, 2012, 05:34:48 PM »

Quote from: MSP Ret on February 01, 2012, 03:35:11 PM

Great thinking, please report back after you shoot it for effect. If it holds partridge size groups out to 10-15 yards or so it would be great..Thanks....<><....

My Dina in 12 ga/.45acp will do that at 15 yards.

rio grande · « **Reply #65 on:** February 17, 2012, 05:38:07 PM »

Quote from: evidrine on January 26, 2012, 04:33:16 AM

There are some sites that claim to make them from solid steel.
http://www.shotgunadapter.com/
http://store.dinaarms.com/12_GA_Adapters_s/1.htm
http://www.gunadapters.com/categories/Shotgun-Adapters/12-gauge/
http://www.americanspecialtyammo.com/Shotgun_Adapters.html

Dina's are aluminum.
"...made of high quality machined metal..."
But they sem to hold up well, and are accurate.

darkgael · « **Reply #66 on:** February 21, 2012, 02:00:38 AM »

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I must say the prospect of turning a 12ga sxs into a 45-70 double rifle for $200 does seem very enticing....

I have tried this also. You might be lucky with your shotgun but the concept did not prove out in any of mine.
The problem is, of course, regulation. Shotgun barrels are not regulated the same as DRs are. None of the barrels on any of my SXSs would shoot any of the loads that I tried to even close to the same POA.
Pete

spooked · « **Reply #67 on:** February 21, 2012, 07:34:47 AM »

I have tried this also. You might be lucky with your shotgun but the concept did not prove out in any of mine.
The problem is, of course, regulation. Shotgun barrels are not regulated the same as DRs are. None of the barrels on any of my SXSs would shoot any of the loads that I tried to even close to the same POA.
Pete

But, but, but ye can have a 45-70 with sights and leave the udder barrel shotgun.. a 45-70...12ga. double ain't nuttin' to sneeze at!

darkgael · « **Reply #68 on:** February 21, 2012, 01:16:32 PM »

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But, but, but ye can have a 45-70 with sights and leave the udder barrel shotgun.. a 45-70...12ga. double ain't nuttin' to sneeze at!

That is a good idea. It'd be a "poor man's" - well, one of two......what the Germans call a buchsflinte(SXS rifle/shotgun) or a bockbuchsflinte (O/U sg/rifle)

evidrine · « **Reply #69 on:** February 22, 2012, 06:07:32 AM »

Problem with my SXS is that I only have a sibgle trigger. Non-selective barrels. $:-\$

Drilling Man · « **Reply #70 on:** February 22, 2012, 06:45:57 AM »

Quote from: evidrine on February 22, 2012, 06:07:32 AM

Problem with my SXS is that I only have a sibgle trigger. Non-selective barrels. $:-\$

In MY house, that would be a good excuse to get rid of it!

DM

evidrine · « **Reply #71 on:** February 22, 2012, 08:12:15 AM »

Nah, the ole FOX isnt goin anywhere!

plumberroy · « **Reply #72 on:** February 25, 2012, 04:47:29 PM »

one of the short cheap one might be good to carry with a slug gun (where legal) to finnish game
Roy

MSP Ret · « **Reply #73 on:** February 26, 2012, 01:17:11 PM »

Hi guys, I got the 3" .410 to .22 LR adapters in the mail and got to shoot them after church today. I got the steel unrifled ones and shot them at a distance of a long 12 yards, 36+ feet. I used Federal American Eagle Hi-Speed HP .22 LR shells and a H&R single shot .410. The fit and finish of the adapters was very nice and if the empties did not shake out they could be easily bumped out on the wooden shooting bench. There MAY be enough to put a thin piece of tape on the forward end of the adaptor for a snugger fit but I don't see the need, besides, whatever you put there would have to very, VERY thin to fit.
I got a consistant 3.5 to 4" max groups of 5 shots each from the adapters, even though I do not think all the rounds stabilized. Good enough for a coyote head shot at that distance and to dispatch other small game. I indexed the .22 LR chamber at the very bottom of the shotgun chamber for each shot. Interestingly, each of the adapters grouped it's shots directly on top of where I placed the bead on the target, very consistant.
These adapters could also be used very well with .22 LR (bird)shot cartridges for small vermin up close or with a solid bullet to dispatch a wounded or injured anilmal w/o having to use another shotgun shell.
In a camping or survival situation you could easily carry the adaptor and a couple of boxes of .22 LR or .22 Short shells either in a storearm forearm, Survivor buttstock, or a pack. That would give you plenty of extra shots if needed.
All in all I am pleased with them, not for long range target work but accurate enough so I will be keeping several for myself, at least one for each grandchild. I will use the adapters to start them with .22 (bird)shot cartridges in a .410, easy to hit with, no recoil, hardly any noise, and lots of fun and reinforcement when they hit a lot of easy targets, ballons and such.
And by the way, yesterday my son and daughter-in-law pleasently surprised us with the great news that we are expecting another grandchild.
HAPPY DAYS!!!....<><....

P.S. - I think I am going to try .22 shorts next, both standard velocity and high speed. They should work just as well as a .22 LR and would take up less space and weigh a bit less as well...

tacklebury · « **Reply #74 on:** February 26, 2012, 04:04:33 PM »

Very cool MSP. Could make some little bundles of 10 shorts wrapped in paper and placed in zip lock bag and shoved into the buttstock bolt hole. Have a little stash for an emergency.

evidrine · « **Reply #75 on:** February 27, 2012, 03:20:46 AM »

Great post MSP! Glad to hear they shoot well. I have one on order at the moment. It should be in this week. I think it will make a really nice and useful accessory for my .410/.45lc camp pistol. Now I cant wait for it to come in.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #76 on:** March 02, 2012, 09:38:55 AM »

Maybe they are making money on selling 'customer lists' too?
For such purchases I use only one credit card, not connected to my other accounts at all, and pay it off each month. I dont recommend online purchases with a card from your bank or credit union account where access to your checking and savings may be hacked.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #77 on:** March 02, 2012, 10:08:55 AM »

evidrine, did you get your adapter and have a chance to shoot it yet? Keep us posted....<><....

evidrine · « **Reply #78 on:** March 02, 2012, 11:12:16 AM »

Hopefully it will be in the mail today. I recieved the shipping confirmation a couple days ago. I have been buying mine from Short Lane. I think they make them as you order them. I will deff. keep you posted.

On a side note. I have a 12ga to 20ga converter and a 20ga to .410 converter. The two fit together flawlessly, as do they both into my shotgun barrel. Wonder how well they would work together? Just a thought.

Drilling Man · « **Reply #79 on:** March 02, 2012, 11:36:15 AM »

So you guys don't care if your 22lr adapters even have rifleing??? You just need them to go BANG???

Have you considered just carrying a ball peen hammer and a rock??? lol If you hit them just right, it will make them go bang!

DM

MSP Ret · « **Reply #80 on:** March 02, 2012, 11:43:14 AM »

I bought my .410 to .22 LR adapters (3") from Short Lane as well. I bought 5, kept 3 for myself and sold the 2 extra to ibgp3 through the H&R WTS. I just shipped them out to him in this morning's mail and he should have them by Monday or Tuesday.
The concept of having a 12 guage shotgun with a 12 to 20 adapter, a 20 to .410/.45 LC adapter, and a .410 to .22 LR adapter, (all made by Short Lane so they fit together well) sounds very interesting. They would all nest within one another and would take up no more room than a single 12 guage shotgun shell...Hmmmmm..now you have me thinking, and that's not always a good thing. Another versatile combination would be a 12 to 20, and a 20 to .38/357...<><....

(edited for availibility of standard manufacture Short Lane adapters)

evidrine · « **Reply #81 on:** March 02, 2012, 01:32:02 PM »

Just came in this evening!

Hopefully I will get a chance to try it out some time tomorrow. As expected it mates up perfectly with my 20ga to .410 converter. This should make for some very interesting testing.

Before I ordered the .410 to .22 adapter the owner of Short Lane assured me that I could expect to consitantly hit a 6" plate starting at 15yrds. This is all I need for a camp gun. Besides, I can shoot any .410 shell plus .45lc as well with the same gun. If I need better accuracy than that my .22 rifle i usually near by.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #82 on:** March 02, 2012, 01:47:06 PM »

When I recieved mine and shot them last week I got pretty consistant 3.5" - 4" groups at a long 12 yards so I think 6" at 15 yards is very possible. All the bullets did not stabilize at that distance, some did, some did not, but they all grouped pretty consistant. I am going to try some standard velocity LR's and some shorts to see if I can tighten the grouping up, if not I can live with it like it is. Be sure to get back to us after you shoot yours with a report. Also, for what it's worth. I indexed mine with the .22 LR chamber at 6 o'clock for each shot. I don't think it is important where you index it as long as you do it the same for each shot. I may be able to move the POI by changing where I index the .22 LR chamber in the shotgun chamber. With where I indexed the .22 LR chamber my inserts consistantly grouped the shots in a pattern right on top of where I held the front bead sight, YMMV....<><....

gcrank1 · « **Reply #83 on:** March 03, 2012, 05:46:19 AM »

At this close range you may find the .22CBs (which are available in a 'LR' version to better fill a chamber) may work about as well on small game and group better??? You guys are getting me curious again....... I would rather have a good pocket .22 handgun along, I think I can still group better than 3-6" @ 12-15yds;, Id want consistent 'pop can' hits anyway.
All in all, I think a 38 Spl. might be the 'small' caliber to use.

ham7777 · « **Reply #84 on:** March 03, 2012, 07:32:49 AM »

Could not take it any longer

,I just ordered 20ga to 9mm,357mag and 44mag from Dana. Will see which one shoots the best and order it a mate. Hoping they shoot well in my double but will try them in my Handi's also. Well give report once I do it them. Later Tom

evidrine · « **Reply #85 on:** March 03, 2012, 10:22:06 AM »

Well, I didnt really have time for any extensive shooting, but I am very pleased with these adapters. I set the offset of the .410/.22 adapter at 12-o-clock and she is right on the money. Shot it out to about 20-25yrds and was consistantly hitting at point of aim.
I also tried different combinations with the adapters such as 12g/20ga+20ga/.410+.410/.22 and everything in between.These adapters performed flawlessly when used together in these combimations.
ham7777 please keep us informed with how well your adapters shoot. I will deff be ordering more in the future.

Similkameen Hunter · « **Reply #86 on:** March 05, 2012, 09:42:17 AM »

i'm ordering 22lr and a 44 magnum adapter for my survivor 12 gauge from gunadapters.com .

the 44 magnum will be real interesting to try out.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #87 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:09:25 AM »

My wife thinks ya'll all need to go on the ignore list. She thinks its arwful that you post this stuff . She knows I will now have to try it

. Alot of good post here. I have most of the adapters for shotgun shell to smaller shotgun shell. 30 carbine in a 308 "ordered" now it looks like something else to order ................

gcrank1 · « **Reply #88 on:** March 05, 2012, 02:36:18 PM »

So.........as an alternative, a mental health 'therapist' would cost how much per hour for how long?

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #89 on:** March 06, 2012, 02:39:53 AM »

REALLY !!!!