Author Topic: Shotgun Adapters? (Read 37063 times)

Hodr · « **Reply #30 on:** January 25, 2012, 03:59:59 AM »

More accuracy testing wou be appreciated.

Hodr

quickdtoo · « **Reply #31 on:** January 25, 2012, 05:28:36 AM »

A well made adapter can be very accurate, with good sights of course, Larry made a 22 Hornet adapter for 12ga for me, it's very accurate with a scope on my USH, even ejects the spent round!

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,160165.msg1098710803.html#msg1098710803

Winter Hawk · « **Reply #32 on:** January 26, 2012, 04:07:45 AM »

Quote from: bucken on January 24, 2012, 05:05:12 PM

the "rifling" is very shallow and entire adapter is all-aluminum. Not sure how well the "rifling" will hold up, or if it actually even does anything.

In the photo it looked like aluminum, and he very vaguely states that they are machined out of "high quality machined metal." I also was curious how long the rifling will last!

Tim, when I click on your link the photos won't come in. Are they there or were they deleted somehow? It opens in a new tab which may be the problem.

-Kees-

quickdtoo · « **Reply #33 on:** January 26, 2012, 04:30:35 AM »

Larry's pic hosting site is down, has been for a long time. $:-\$

Tim

evidrine · « **Reply #34 on:** January 26, 2012, 04:33:16 AM »

There are some sites that claim to make them from solid steel.
http://www.shotgunadapter.com/
http://store.dinaarms.com/12_GA_Adapters_s/1.htm
http://www.gunadapters.com/categories/Shotgun-Adapters/12-gauge/
http://www.americanspecialtyammo.com/Shotgun_Adapters.html

MSP Ret · « **Reply #35 on:** January 26, 2012, 04:59:28 AM »

disregard my first thoughts, however I also was going to post about the ones made from carbon steel....<><....

RPRNY · « **Reply #36 on:** January 30, 2012, 04:03:29 AM »

http://mcaceak.com/index.html

Just thought I would add these adapters that I came across as they seem the best compromise between accuracy (albeit untried) and value that I have seen. 10" rifled steel inserts for $95. The chap seems very flexible and willing to make custom stuff. A 30-30 adapter in the Mod barrel of my 20ga SxS during deer/grouse overlap season does seem interesting and I must say the prospect of turning a 12ga sxs into a 45-70 double rifle for $200 does seem very enticing. I wonder if he would do a .454 adapter...

quickdtoo · « **Reply #37 on:** January 30, 2012, 05:57:34 AM »

A .454 adapter would turn most break barrel shotguns into a bomb, that would be a foolish mistake by the machinist and the shooter, the SAAMI MAP for the 12ga is 11.5-14kpsi, 454 Casull is 65kpsi!

Tim

http://www.lasc.us/SAAMIMaxPressure.htm

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/saami_pressures.htm

bikerbeans · « **Reply #38 on:** January 30, 2012, 07:30:23 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on January 30, 2012, 05:57:34 AM

A .454 adapter would turn most break barrel shotguns into a bomb,

So that is why folks call them "break" barrel shotguns.

BB

quickdtoo · « **Reply #39 on:** January 30, 2012, 07:33:27 AM »

evidrine · « **Reply #40 on:** January 30, 2012, 09:46:50 AM »

Quote from: RPRNY on January 30, 2012, 04:03:29 AM

http://www.mcace.com/shotguninserts.htm

Just thought I would add these adapters that I came across as they seem the best compromise between accuracy (albeit untried) and value that I have seen. 10" rifled steel inserts for $95. The chap seems very flexible and willing to make custom stuff. A 30-30 adapter in the Mod barrel of my 20ga SxS during deer/grouse overlap season does seem interesting and I must say the prospect of turning a 12ga sxs into a 45-70 double rifle for $200 does seem very enticing. I wonder if he would do a .454 adapter...

I have not thoght about this application for a SxS or O/U shotgun. This is really appealing to me.

Drilling Man · « **Reply #41 on:** January 30, 2012, 12:19:10 PM »

Quote from: evidrine on January 30, 2012, 09:46:50 AM

Quote from: RPRNY on January 30, 2012, 04:03:29 AM
http://www.mcace.com/shotguninserts.htm

Just thought I would add these adapters that I came across as they seem the best compromise between accuracy (albeit untried) and value that I have seen. 10" rifled steel inserts for $95. The chap seems very flexible and willing to make custom stuff. A 30-30 adapter in the Mod barrel of my 20ga SxS during deer/grouse overlap season does seem interesting and I must say the prospect of turning a 12ga sxs into a 45-70 double rifle for $200 does seem very enticing. I wonder if he would do a .454 adapter...
I have not thoght about this application for a SxS or O/U shotgun. This is really appealing to me.

I done it a few times with 45/70 adapters...

Well, they do go "bang" that's about as good as it gets. Perhaps your expectations aren't as high as mine were/are? I really loose patience fast with things are haflazz.

DM

RPRNY · « **Reply #42 on:** January 30, 2012, 04:33:23 PM »

Not to worry Tim, I was being facetious about a 454 insert.

In fact, I have serious reservations about a .30-30 in most light game 20ga guns. Trapdoor loads in 45-70 might be safe in some chunky 12ga sxs but I certainly wouldn't want to risk it for novelty.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #43 on:** January 31, 2012, 02:21:09 AM »

Quote from: jpshaw on January 25, 2012, 03:10:47 AM

Has anyone ever used Dinaarms. They sure want to know a lot about me while not letting me know their phone number, address or anything at all. It's "give me your credit card number" I really want that .22 adaptor but they are very vaque about themselves.

I don't know anything about Dinaarms but I must admit a .22 LR adaptor for a little .410 really intrigues me. I have a 9mm/12 gauage adaptor and an old antique .410/16 Savage (?) adaptor like new in the box that I have not looked at in years but I do want to get a .22 LR/.410 and try it out. I would like to be able to keep one adaptor with each of a couple of little .410's with a couple of boxes of shells in .410 and .22 LR. Some different size shot, some slugs and "Tri-ball" buckshot loads, and some .22 LR ammo and you would be all set for a long time in the woods or at camp....<><....

jpshaw · « **Reply #44 on:** January 31, 2012, 02:38:11 AM »

Well MSP Ret after seeing so many with the Dinaarms I thought they may be OK so I ordered my 12 Ga to .22 LR. While the 1.5 inch of rifling might not be much the 27.5 inch Partner barrel should give it a ton of sight radius. I'm expecting to be able to use it to about 30 feet for very small game or pest that I don't want to set off a load of numbers sixes at.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #45 on:** February 01, 2012, 03:35:11 PM »

Great thinking, please report back after you shoot it for effect. If it holds partridge size groups out to 10-15 yards or so it would be great..Thanks....<><....

evidrine · « **Reply #46 on:** February 02, 2012, 03:41:13 AM »

I just got in my 12ga to 20ga converter. Didnt try it yet but it looks well made. I think I will start with the different shotgun sizes first. I have two young boys at home. They are close in age so I like the idea of being able to convert my 20ga so that they could both use a .410 withiout haveing to buy a second gun. Same goes when moving them both up to 20ga. Eventually I will try out the pistol calibers, but until then I will keep reading your reviews on them.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #47 on:** February 02, 2012, 02:14:58 PM »

Hi guys, I got to the range with my 12 guage to 9MM adaptor today. Mine is aluminum and has rifling in it. It is a short adaptor, about 3" long, I think it is a Dina Arms adaptor. There were a couple of other guys at the range and they were enthralled with the adaptor when I pulled it out. I had planned to shoot it for accuracy at 10 yards and then at 15 yards but one of the other guys had a box of new 9MM FMJ ammo which he offered to use for testing, overall about a dozen rounds were fired. One of the guys went down and stapled an 8" paper plate to the 25 yard backstop so that is the distance we shot. All shots easily were held on the plate at 25 yards and the group was about 6" maximum after all three of us shot. The 12 guage used was an H&R/NEF Tracker II with a scope and there were no problems at all. The 9MM ammo was a nice smooth and snug but gentle press fit in the adaptor and the empties were easily removed with a short piece of 1/4" dowel. Overall it's a winner and is as accurate, or more accurate, than a snub nosed revolver at that distance. I believe it would work fine for dispatching vermin within 10 to 50 yards and with a center chest hold on a coyote at 25 yards it would be lights out. I do wish it was in .38/.357 since I have more ammo in that caliber. I now want one in .410/.22 LR even more...<><....

tallyho · « **Reply #48 on:** February 02, 2012, 03:04:52 PM »

Thanks Andy. Great report! I'm kinda drooling over the ones in .22LR, 9mm, and 357... Just narrow it down to which one to start with!

MSP Ret · « **Reply #49 on:** February 02, 2012, 03:17:30 PM »

Nice to hear from you buddy, I hope things are going well. I am thinking of trying an adaptor in steel but I would like it to be rifled. Actually I do't know if the rifling in the aluminum adaptor I have now actually works but the accuracy is acceptable for my needs so that is what matters, minute of partridge at about 10-15 yards. I think the 9MM adaptor I have would not leave much of the partridge for the pot, thats why I am thinking of getting a .410/.22 LR adaptor. But, this 9MM would be a great for many other uses. I think I would go with the one you could shoot the most for the least amount of money, either a .22 LR or a caliber you already reloaded for, be it .38/.357 or 9MM...<><....

tacklebury · « **Reply #50 on:** February 02, 2012, 03:37:02 PM »

Thanks for the report MSP! I just gotta get one soon... lol Have an old 16 ga. that I am getting ready to get brass shot shells set up for loading and I think I'll get a .22 one and a .45 colt one for it's kit.

tallyho · « **Reply #51 on:** February 02, 2012, 04:12:11 PM »

Quote from: MSP Ret on February 02, 2012, 03:17:30 PM

Nice to hear from you buddy, I hope things are going well. I am thinking of trying an adaptor in steel but I would like it to be rifled. Actually I do't know if the rifling in the aluminum adaptor I have now actually works but the accuracy is acceptable for my needs so that is what matters, minute of partridge at about 10-15 yards. I think the 9MM adaptor I have would not leave much of the partridge for the pot, thats why I am thinking of getting a .410/.22 LR adaptor. But, this 9MM would be a great for many other uses. I think I would go with the one you could shoot the most for the least amount of money, either a .22 LR or a caliber you already reloaded for, be it .38/.357 or 9MM...<><....

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too, 22, or 38/357 - and also because the adapter is aluminum, it would likely hold up better with cast bullets through it rather than jacketed, and that's what I mostly load in 38/357.

tacklebury · « **Reply #52 on:** February 02, 2012, 04:39:36 PM »

Good point Tallyho, I load .38 special wad cutters and semi wC's so it'd work well.. Who knows, maybe I'll order a whole set. lol

MSP Ret · « **Reply #53 on:** February 03, 2012, 04:21:24 PM »

All the above got me to thinking, not always a good thing. I have wanted a .30 Cal carbine barrel for a Handi for a while. I have almost 1K of .30 cal carbine ammo and nothing to shoot it out of. I vaguely remember a company that offered an insert to shoot .30 Cal carbine ammo out of but I don't remember who it was or if they made inserts in that caliber for shotguns. Would anyone have any info on that possible combo? Another thought was perhaps rechambering a smaller insert to .30 carbine, your thoughts on that? Thanks....<><....

added info - I located the company I saw a while ago, MACE. They do not make shotgun inserts for .30 Cal carbine ammo. Unless Someone knows of a company that does make one perhaps your thoughts on getting an insert rechamberd or reamed out to .30 Cal carbine...Thanks...

tacklebury · « **Reply #54 on:** February 04, 2012, 12:36:48 PM »

A few of the different providers I've found have some options to contact them for customs. I haven't personally seen a .30 Carbine option, but this guy specifically has a custom listing at the bottom of his page. I'd say perhaps contacting them would be the best bet as I've never seen one for a .30.

http://www.americanspecialtyammo.com/Shotgun_Adapters.html

MSP Ret · « **Reply #55 on:** February 04, 2012, 02:48:09 PM »

Thanks, I saw that info about the specialty orders but I thought if I was going to spend a lot for a specialty insert I might as well have a stubbed barrel built...I was hoping, and still may, either locate a .30 cal insert or rechamber a standard caliber insert....<><....

tacklebury · « **Reply #56 on:** February 04, 2012, 03:20:48 PM »

Not to get too far off topic here, but you might consider a .30 Carbine Blackhawk. Just got a chance to shoot one with my Handloads, min. load of 13 gr. H110 under Hornady's 1/2 jacketed 100 gr. bullet. Super shooting out of my pal's pistol in the 3" group range at over 40 paces and shoots good in my WWII Carbine also.

jpshaw · « **Reply #57 on:** February 07, 2012, 12:44:54 PM »

Quote from: Adam_R on January 24, 2012, 01:16:15 PM

It uses an o-ring to hold the case tight into the chamber and a small screw driver will be needed to removed the fired case from this adapter.

My Dinaarms 12 Ga/.22 RF adapter has the ring for an o-ring but they failed to include it in the envelope.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #58 on:** February 14, 2012, 10:23:28 AM »

Hi guys, these are the adaptors I was planning on getting in 3" .410/.22 LR. Guess what, I believe there was price increase TODAY, in the last hour or two if I am correct. It happened while I was waiting for some info back from them before placing my order...Timing is everything!!!....<><....

http://www.gunadapters.com/categories/Shotgun-Adapters/12-gauge/

MSP Ret · « **Reply #59 on:** February 16, 2012, 09:27:20 AM »

Well I ordered the 3" .410 to .22 LR adapters and then check went out in this mornings mail. I hope to have them for testing and fun in about a week to 10 days. I'll post again after I get them and shoot them....<><....