Author Topic: Who should pay? (Read 898 times)

nw_hunter · « **on:** December 26, 2011, 02:05:24 PM »

This woman in Tampa Fla has 15 children by "She says" 3 different Daddy's.
One of them. Her fiance is in prison. She says we the tax payers are responsible for the kids and her welfare.

Quite a story and the sad part is.............This (thing) I hesitate to call a woman, is not alone. There are more like her out there, all over America.

Is there a solution, or do we just keep going until America becomes another Somalia and Cities like Tampa morph into Mogadishu's?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bavou_SEj1E

Ex 49'er · « **Reply #1 on:** December 26, 2011, 03:10:24 PM »

Has she ever heard of birth control. Just because she can have children doesn't mean she should keep popping 'em out. Birth control should be in the water; When you want a kid then buy the antidote. My 2 cents.

OldSchoolRanger · « **Reply #2 on:** December 26, 2011, 06:00:15 PM »

Are you kidding me? We're supposed to pay for her being a tramp? Why have children if you can't afford to raise them? Even her family members don't want to help her anymore, that must tell you something. Why isn't the father of two of her kids, being held responsible for at least supporting those two kids?

She and all the fathers of her children should be held financially responsible for raising and supporting the children. The more you give people like this the more they demand.

Slowhanddd · « **Reply #3 on:** December 27, 2011, 02:28:33 AM »

Don't even get me started on this one!

magooch · « **Reply #4 on:** December 27, 2011, 03:52:14 AM »

Abort the whole mess.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #5 on:** December 27, 2011, 03:58:03 AM »

Its quite simple stop the support. Allow her to work to support her offspring. She may find some will need to be given up for adoption . She may find after full days and weeks of work she will be to tired to make babies.

Conan The Librarian · « **Reply #6 on:** December 27, 2011, 04:16:04 AM »

Tampa used to be a nice city. But in the late 70s it became a crime town. Not sure why. Was chatting with a woman from there and her property taxes on a modest home were very high. I guess she gets to pay for it.

bilmac · « **Reply #7 on:** December 27, 2011, 04:19:01 AM »

Tough love to stop handing out benefits based on the number of dependants, but even lowlifes like this can figure out the math. Trouble is the extra dollars are usually spent on booze and dope, and the kids are fed by the school or soup kitchens.

gypsyman · « **Reply #8 on:** December 27, 2011, 04:20:09 AM »

This is where my communist side shows up. This woman, and her breeders, should have been fixed 10 kids ago. They want to act and behave like animals, treat them as such. gypsyman

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #9 on:** December 27, 2011, 08:29:37 AM »

giver MRE's and watch her feed them to the kids

DDZ · « **Reply #10 on:** December 27, 2011, 11:30:15 AM »

Quote from: gypsyman on December 27, 2011, 04:20:09 AM

This is where my communist side shows up. This woman, and her breeders, should have been fixed 10 kids ago. They want to act and behave like animals, treat them as such. gypsyman

I must have a communist side also, because I agree. Women having a litter of kids will never go away unless government stops supporting it. There will be no such thing as people like this having personal responsibility , as long as tax payers are the giver of all life sustaining needs. People used to have shame if they needed help supporting their kids. Heck no such thing as shame anymore, now help is just expected. All the shame and personal responsibility ended when government decided they would take from the people so they could be the givers. People tend to see gifts of money different, if its given by other people. Most of the takers just see the money as the governments, and feel it is an entitlement. I think the whole rotten system is going to come crashing down one of these days, because our government is bankrupt.

powderman · « **Reply #11 on:** December 27, 2011, 01:36:14 PM »

I saw a woman on maury a couple of years ago, welfare mother, and she was trying to find her babys father. After 5 trips to the show and a total of 15, yes FIFTEEN guys tested, NONE was the father. Maury asked if there was anybody else to test, she said yes. POWDERMAN.

Sourdough · « **Reply #12 on:** December 27, 2011, 03:04:52 PM »

I have a close friend in Tampa, and just got back from there. My friend lived in St. Petersburg for three years, now htere was a crime laden place. My friend bought a house in Tampa, much nicer neighborhood. Still I do not like the area, but better then St Pete.

Want a shock, go to Wal-Mart in St Pete for an afternoon. At night the really weird ones came out.

Ron/Pa. · « **Reply #13 on:** December 27, 2011, 03:44:37 PM »

I sometimes wonder if WE are the wierd ones and THEY are the normal?

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scootrd · « **Reply #14 on:** December 27, 2011, 04:26:42 PM »

I didn't read the article , as I feel I don't have to to comment, as I have strong feelings in this regard and have read many stories of the like.

Welfare is a hand up not a hand out and a way of life. If her multiple husbands are not going to be fathers and provide , the best thing for the children is to cut off all subsistence. Have child welfare move in and remove the children. either place them in foster care, or orphanage for adoption where they will receive proper care , proper schooling , and hopefully break the welfare cycle and give them an opportunity for a better life and a better chance to succeed and become positive contributors to society.

JMHO

powderman · « **Reply #15 on:** December 27, 2011, 04:36:37 PM »

Quote from: scootrd on December 27, 2011, 04:26:42 PM

I didn't read the article , as I feel I don't have to to comment, as I have strong feelings in this regard and have read many stories of the like.

Welfare is a hand up not a hand out and a way of life. If her multiple husbands are not going to be fathers and provide , the best thing for the children is to cut off all subsistence. Have child welfare move in and remove the children. either place them in foster care, or orphanage for adoption where they will receive proper care , proper schooling , and hopefully break the welfare cycle and give them an opportunity for a better life and a better chance to succeed and become positive contributors to society.

JMHO

AGREED Sir, + spay and neuter. A worthless deadbeat dad in Lou had fathered a whole passle of kids with I believe 5 women was ordered by a judge to NOT HAVE SEX anymore, he was also in a wheelchair supposedly disabled. The A nti C hristian L iars U nion sued on his behalf claiming he had to right to procreate all he wanted, even though he supported none of the kids he fathered. POWDERMAN.

Conan The Librarian · « **Reply #16 on:** December 27, 2011, 05:05:24 PM »

Dang, Sourdough, that's too bad about St. Pete. It used to be such a lovely town. i remember when it was a quiet retirement community with the nickname Home of the newly wed and the nearly dead.

If you want a good profile of what it was back in the fifties, read Live and Let Die, by Ian Fleming. It is a good read.

rockbilly · « **Reply #17 on:** December 28, 2011, 06:45:53 AM »

A while back one of the major new networks had a special on welfare mothers, they showed a family in NY city with five generations of welfare, the great-great grandmother had 12-13 children non with thee same father, the great grand mother a like number, as did the grand mother and mother, now the daughter, just 19 years old had five and doesn’t know the father of any of them………when questioned, each one stated “it is your responsibility to support us.”

I could possibly see help with one for a short period of time, but when number two comes along the only way we should provide any support is after corrective surgery. I guess you might say I also have some commie ideas………………

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #18 on:** December 28, 2011, 08:03:17 AM »

Only in America will the working class pay the dead beats to take over .

nw_hunter · « **Reply #19 on:** December 28, 2011, 05:41:48 PM »

Quote from: powderman on December 27, 2011, 01:36:14 PM

I saw a woman on maury a couple of years ago, welfare mother, and she was trying to find her babys father. After 5 trips to the show and a total of 15, yes FIFTEEN guys tested, NONE was the father. Maury asked if there was anybody else to test, she said yes. POWDERMAN.

I should be ashamed of myself, but I can't help it

When I read the last sentence of your post, and it read.......Was there anybody else to test, she said yes Powderman. I nearly choked.

Just ribbing you PW

powderman · « **Reply #20 on:** December 29, 2011, 04:09:05 AM »

HEH. I like watermelon, but not that much, wasn't me. POWDERMAN.

srussell · « **Reply #21 on:** December 29, 2011, 03:18:20 PM »

Quote from: rockbilly on December 28, 2011, 06:45:53 AM

A while back one of the major new networks had a special on welfare mothers, they showed a family in NY city with five generations of welfare, the great-great grandmother had 12-13 children non with thee same father, the great grand mother a like number, as did the grand mother and mother, now the daughter, just 19 years old had five and doesn’t know the father of any of them………when questioned, each one stated “it is your responsibility to support us.”

I could possibly see help with one for a short period of time, but when number two comes along the only way we should provide any support is after corrective surgery. I guess you might say I also have some commie ideas………………

i can show you at least 3 different families that are 5th. generation welfare in my county. my wife worked at the welfare office and them folks know the rules better than she did

powderman · « **Reply #22 on:** December 29, 2011, 04:02:08 PM »

I know a woman who gets a disability chk, so does her doper shackup and one of her kids and the only thing wrong with them is LAZYBUTTITIS. 2 worthless parasites. POWDERMAN.

bilmac · « **Reply #23 on:** December 29, 2011, 06:08:25 PM »

You seldom see such agreement and strong opinions on Greybeard as this thread has garnered.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #24 on:** December 30, 2011, 01:32:04 AM »

The human animal is the only animal that rewards ones who do not contribute to their own wealfare and safety. We rerward the lazy while taking from the workers . Its one thing to help those who can't help themselves due to injury,sickness or age but to support those who could work or those who chose to make themselves useless thru drugs etc is just wrong.

powderman · « **Reply #25 on:** December 30, 2011, 04:27:21 AM »

The Bible says, He who will not work, neither shall he eat. Does not apply to the aged, real disabled, or sick or injured. I know a big family in Lou who get disability chks on most everybody. POWDERMAN.