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Offline Sourdough

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It's 40 below.
« on: December 29, 2011, 07:31:24 PM »
Gosh, I don't want to go outside.  Sky took my big truck into town tonight to the Gym.  It was already warm from my going into town earlier today.  His truck is sitting there covered in snow and ice.  Thinking about starting a fire, but I would have to go outside to get firewood.  Nah, it's not that important.  I'd have to break a trail through snow up to mid thigh.  Can wait till daylight tomorrow.

Had to pull Sky out of the ditch last night.  Grader came through plowing snow.  Swung blade way out over ditch, filling ditch with snow and making it look like part of the street.  Sky was coming home well within the snow banks on each side of the street.  Suddenly the right side of his truck went down.  He almost tipped over.  He called me and I took the 1 ton up to assist.  When I turned the corner there he was standing in the street beside his truck.  There was snow up over the hood on the passengers side.  Snow had rolled over the side into the bed, and was pilled up against the passengers window.  When I pulled up, he opened the back door and grabbed the tow strap.  While I was positioning my truck he made the hook-up.  Big truck pulled him right out.  Noticed this afternoon two more people had done the same thing farther down the street.  Causes you to develop a grudge against grader drivers.   

Applied for my drawing permits for next hunting season.  I applied to hunt a Cow Moose on the Chena River.  Yea, I know I said I would never hunt Moose again, or go on another Moose Hunt.  How quickly we forget the pain.  I have a plan, I'm taking Sky and a couple of his buddies.  Young College biology students, with strong backs.  It will be a nice dissection for them, right on the river bank.  Plan on using a 45-70.   
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2011, 08:40:42 PM »
   Hummm, just looked at my indoor/outdoor Thermometer and at 2:30 in the Morning it is 39 above! Here in Pa., we really haven`t had a Winter yet. I believe in my area we`ve received 2.5 inches, so far. That is justy peachy fine with me.....keep warm.

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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 03:17:48 AM »
You couldn't drag me out the door with a small tractor when It's that cold. It was 15 this last Tuesday morning and I had to go to the hospital for therapy. We had a white Christmas which has become a rare thing here but the roads were in good shape. The parking lot was almost empty and I was the only patient in therapy for awhile. Another came in just before I finished.

It warmed up nicely yesterday and a lot of that cold, wet stuff melted. It was a nice, balmy 38 this morning so hopefully I won't have to tromp thru any more snow by tonight. The older I get the less I like snow.

A 22 year old mother and her two little girls were killed just about four miles north of me during the snow. She was driving too fast and lost control and slid into the oncoming lane where she was hit broadside by another car. I received several phone calls wanting to know if it was some of my family as she had the same surname. She was from upstate and not related.

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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 03:44:44 AM »
Sourdough, I can't remember if you said you were ever stationed at Eilson.  When I was there they had some kind of central heating plant and anytime it got down to 30 below, ice-fog formed and you couldn't see an inch in front of your face.  I guess the ice-fog must have been caused by the steam from the heating plant. 
 
You know, I can't remember if anything was flying during those ice-fog incidents; I don't see how it would have been possible to take off unless they did it on instruments.
 
Here's a bit of thread drift.  While I was stationed at Eilson, one of the missions the base had was U-2 operations.  That was a very long time ago, so I don't think this is letting a cat out of the bag.  Anyway, there was a totally black hangar that was surrounded with multiple fencing and patrolled at all times by guards with dogs.  The rumour was that a super secret spy plane was housed there.
 
The U-2's would take off early in the morning and return in the afternoon, but now and then on totally moonless very dark nights, all the lights on the flight line would be turned off and a plane would taxi out and blast off.  All that was visible was two after-burners that were close together, so I don't think it was a Blackbird.  One of my friends got assigned to a cleanup detail after a KC-135 crashed on takeoff and he got to talking with one of the guards about what was in that black hangar.  He said he was sworn to secrecy, but that it was what was designated as a U-3.  Whatever it was, it must have been a very well kept secret, because to this day I've never heard another word about it.
 
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 03:55:25 AM »
-40. Ugh. Too cold for me.
 
What's the coldest it's gotten there?
 
Usually when your area gets sub-zero that cold, my area gets colder about a week later. So far our forecast remains relatively warm, remaining above zero for a while.
 
We'll get a lot of -20 and -30 during the winter, but seldom -40. Last time we got that, it killed some of my fruit trees.

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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 04:49:48 AM »
I'm with you, -40 is to cold to go out in.
Fortunately it is suppose to be 65 here today.  ;D
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 04:51:02 AM »
When I was stationed at Eilson AFB it got down to -56 down the river a little ways.  Eilson is right next door to where Sourdough lives.  With global warming and all, I'm surprised to hear that it even still freezes up there.
 
It's 48 this morning here in the PNW and the sun is supposed to show.  It might be a good day to go paddling.
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 05:13:41 AM »
The coldest it typically gets where I live is -30. You guys are tough up there in AK.
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 06:28:07 AM »
Alaska is a beautiful place but I'll stick to these Alabama winters. Coldest I remember here was back in I think 1990. It got down to 5 degrees for a couple of nights. I saw things frozen that I thought would never freeze.
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 07:48:48 AM »
Back in the early 70s I have seen -80 three mornings in a row there at Eielson AFB, just eight miles up the road.  We are expecting -35 to -40 for the next week.  Most winters we see at least one week of real cold weather.  -50 to -60 has not happened for quite a few years now, and I can deffinately do without that mush cold.  A few years back, (2 or 3) I got stuck out and had to spend the night out on the Wood River.  It got to -35 that night.  I made a nest and went to bed, slept good and was nice and warm.  Then came morning, and I had to get up.  Now that's cold, crawling out of a nice and warm sleeping bag in nothing but your thermals and wool socks.  Your insulated Carharts are stiff as a board.  Gosh those Bunny Boots were cold, but in 10 minutes they were warm. 

Magooch:  I spent most of my AF career at Eielson AFB.  Back in the early 70s, no planes were stationed there.  Hunting and Fishing, was the Mission.  We had a SAC wing that brought up RCs and KC-135s on rotation from California.  Then in the mid 70s they brought in planes (A-10s) and Eielson became a real AFB.  The RCs were KC-135s that had been modified, with a big snoopy dog style front end.  They were so loaded with electronics gear they had to take off almost empty of fuel.  A KC-135 Tanker would take off two hours ahead of them.  Then two tankers would take off with them.  One would refuel him and come back down.  That tanker would refuel then an hour later take off to meet him on his way back in.  It took four tankers to support the RCs mission.  Eielson had a major building spurt during the 80s and 90s.  Lots of new hangers and buildings built.  A-10s were the planes stationed there from the mid 70s, all the rest were just transient planes.  Then in 2006 the Air Force removed the A-10s, and all the others.  All that is left is a small training group of F-16s, that only fly during major excercises during the summer, and a Guard unit flying Tankers.  Eielson is pretty much as it was when I got here back in 1971.  Down to just a caretaker crew during the winter.  Eielson is the only AFB that has it's own direct fuel line from the refinery to the base.  A small refinery here in North Pole (one of two) takes the oil directly from the Alaska Oil Pipeline, refines out the jet fuel, then has the capability to send it directly to Eielson AFB via a pipeline.  With Eielson not needing fuel, the refinery sends it's fuel to Fairbanks and Anchorage airports. 

That Black hanger you referred to was the Alert Cells, all fenced in except for an access to the flight line.  I've seen F-102s, F-4s, F-15s, F-16s, and various other fast intercept aircraft housed there.  I hated going there, had to go through so much security checks just to get through the fence.  Then once inside you had to put up with some of the snottiest pilots I ever met.  Only fight I had during my career, I told a smartXXX Capt to kiss my XXX one morning.  He took a swing at me and clipped my shoulder.  A Chief grabbed the Capt, and a MSgt grabbed me seperating us.  Since the Capt had actually hit me, the Chief convinced the Capt it was in his best interest to forget it ever happened.  Then he chewed my XXX for being stupid in the first place.  I was banned from the Alert Cells for a year over that.  Broke my heart.   
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2011, 03:09:45 AM »
So does Eielson still have the missile batteries protecting it?  My guess is that it doesn't, since the mission is benign.  When I was there, we were a very large part of chrome dome.  The most awsome thing I ever saw was one of those missiles fired.  It made me a believer that any enemy we had at that time was toast if we wanted to cook em.
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2011, 03:40:45 AM »
 All of that snow and cold weather has missed Northern Vermont. It's 36 here right now and its suppose to snow a bit
then turn to rain. We have less then a inch of snow on the ground here. Real funny winter for sure.
 
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2011, 09:41:23 AM »
Had a phone call from my Son about an hour ago, we called off our hunt this afternoon because of the weather………….its supposed to hit 77 degrees.   I don’t mind the warm temperature, its just the warm weather brings out the mosquitoes.

Tomorrow is the last day of regular deer season so we will go tomorrow morning.  I will have the opportunity to spend some time in the blinds, there are lots of pigs that need to be killed.

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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2011, 01:00:14 PM »
Magooch:  Those missle batteries were being closed when I got here in 1971.  The one at Moose Creek Bluff, overlooking the highway going into town was totally removed.  The bunkers were turned over to the Corps Of Engineers.  They built a big flood control project out there, using the army lands and a homestead.  The remains of "B" battery and "C" battery are still there.  After they were closed, some hot shot A-10 pilot decided to see what an A-10 could do to those buildings.  The administrtive, dinning, barracks, shop, and missle dome was totally destroyed.  The bunkers are still there and used by a contractor. 
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2011, 04:10:51 PM »
Got up to 55 deg today. I pulled good turnips last week. Still no hard freeze. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2011, 06:44:37 PM »
Just drove back from Fairbanks.  -37 as we came through North Pole.  They are usually two to three degrees warmer than we are out here.  The wife had a Hot Flash as we were driving down the highway, she opened the window in the back seat.  Sky and I were glad she was in back and we had our heavy coats and gloves on.  Since last New Years, when she opened the window at 30 below and almost gave Sky frostbite, as he was sitting in the back seat, she is not allowed in the front seat when we go anywhere. 

We went and had dinner at Chili's, few people out and about, it's too cold.  It's 8:40 and the fireworks are going off all around us.  You folks have a wonderful New Year, I'm going to bed.  Good Night, Rog
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2012, 04:48:36 AM »
Brrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!! Oh and BRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2012, 09:20:21 AM »
I don't want to go, I'm being forced.  Wife wants a fire, that means I have to go to the wood pile and bring in some wood.  It's -44, thats 44 degrees below Zero.  It will take me 10 minutes to get dressed.  Since no one had been to the wood pile lately, I've got to brake a trail out there.  Snow is up over my knees.  Then it will take another ten to fifteen minutes before the wood warms up enough to light.  It's at least a half hour preperation just to get a fire ready to light.  Then it will be another half hour before it starts putting out any heat.  Then I will have to go out and keep replinishing the wood.  Darn, I want to move south. 
 
It's not one of those things where you just run out and grab a few sticks, then rush back inside.  At these temps if you slip and fall, and no one is standing there watching and sees it you are dead.  About 15 years ago I did slip and fall while going to get wood.  Luckily I was dressed for the cold.  It was 65 below that evening.  It was ten minutes before the wife missed me, and wondered why I was not back yet.  When she opened the front door and looked outside, she could see me crawling on my hands and knees, trying to get to the door.  She rushed out and helped he up.  When I fell, I was pulling the sled full of wood.  I had turneed to face the sled, it had stuck on something.  When I pulled my feet went out from under me and I sat down hard.  I broke my tailbone, and passed out.  Don't know how long I laid there before I came to.  But if I had not been dressed properly it would have been over right there.  I've known more than one guy who decided to just run next door to the neighbors.  They did not bother to get dressed properly.  They fell in the snow, and could not get up.  They found them later frozen stiff.  All you Southerners (Thats every one in the other 49 states today)  have a warm and wonderful NEW YEAR!  Rog 
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Re: It's 40 below.
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2012, 09:50:18 AM »
You need a wood bin built onto the side of your house with a door on it opening to the inside. That way you simply open the door and grab what you need without having to go outside. Just needs filled now and then but it's a lot less trips outside. :) Be careful and take care of yourself.