Can Paul Beat Obama?

[nw_hunter]

Some information for those who think Paul has little chance of beating Obama!


http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/10395-paul-attracting-iowa-independents-and-democrats

[LunaticFringeInc]

Thats well and good but he isnt very well supported by his own party and is unlikely to get much in the way of support from democrats, whats going to keep him from being neutered during his 4 years in office if he is elected?  Dont get me wrong, I like the guy a lot and even if I didnt like him that much I would support anyone that can beat Obama in 2012!  Sometimes a major victory starts as a series of small wins.

[Val]

Ron Paul will never get the Republican nomination. Although I agree with most of his positions on the Domestic front, his isolationist position on the International front is his downfall. In this Global economy where the economic health of the world is interlinked isolationism is not possible.  The lunatic fringe liberals, so called environmentalist, use the liberal court system from allowing the US from developing our resources so we can become energy independant. It appears that Ron Paul is not a friend of Israel (he seems to be in Obama's court on this issue). He apparently will do nothing to keep the culturally retarded Muslims from continueing to overtake the world. Ron Paul is just not a viable choice for the Republican nomination.

[yellowtail3]

Ron Paul will never get the Republican nomination.

The bubblehead may or may not be right (prob right)

Although I agree with most of his positions on the Domestic front, his isolationist position on the International front is his downfall.

The term 'Isolationist' puts stink on otherwise useful ideas. Maybe we could use 'non-imperialist' or 'non-world's cop' instead?

Can Paul Beat Obama?

I don't know. If he gets nominated... he might. Head-to-head, comparing ideas, not just slogans (he's an isolationist & a racist! vs He's a Mooslim Manchurian Candidate Commie!) and Dr Paul just might win.

I'll vote for him, given the opportunity.

[lakota]

I fear Ron Paul doesnt have the empty substanceless flash to appeal to the brain dead masses like the Obama does. He probably cant read a teleprompter with the expertise and skill of the Obama either.

[BBF]

IMO he can't.
Even Romney who is the pick from the Republican establishment will be hard pressed to win.

[Cuts Crooked]

IMO he can't.
Even Romney who is the pick from the Republican establishment will be hard pressed to win.

Romney CAN'T beat Obama. Stats show that in a head to head race he comes out behind by over 20 percentage points.

Paul on the other hand CAN beat the O'boy according to recent stats. Paul pulls voters from across the spectrum, old, young, independent, liberal, libertarian, conservative.....his message reverberates with those who have seen what big government and constant wars have done to this nation.`

The "war on drugs" is an abject failure, our intervention in other nations wars has gained us no friends, and made us lots of enemies, the single largest employer in this country is the government..........it's time to change....not "hope and change" just real change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sourdough]

Ron Paul is not a Republican, he is a Liberaterian running on the Republican ticket.  His foreign policy will sink him.  75& of the swing voters, and a bunch of the true Republicans, will vote for Obama over Paul.  Paul scares far too many people.

He's a loose cannon. 

[Cuts Crooked]

Ron Paul is not a Republican, he is a Liberaterian running on the Republican ticket.  His foreign policy will sink him.  75& of the swing voters, and a bunch of the true Republicans, will vote for Obama over Paul.  Paul scares far too many people.

He's a loose cannon.

ROFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry.......most American are less concerned with foreign policy than the economy and the state of overbloated government right now!

[Sourdough]

Well tonight we will get the first of results that will tell what is going on with the public.

[Swampman]

I'm not sure Obama can be beaten by anyone running at this point.  They are all losers.

[Gary G]

Ron Paul is not a Republican, he is a Liberaterian running on the Republican ticket.  His foreign policy will sink him.  75& of the swing voters, and a bunch of the true Republicans, will vote for Obama over Paul.  Paul scares far too many people.

He's a loose cannon.

At one time, the thing that distinguished the Republican party from the Democrats was the libertarian influence within the party. Now, besides Ron Paul, there is nothing that distinguishes between the two parties. Both parties would beat into submission any people that disagrees with them and let it be known that you will pay for it, economically that is.

[Gary G]

Ron Paul will never get the Republican nomination. Although I agree with most of his positions on the Domestic front, his isolationist position on the International front is his downfall. In this Global economy where the economic health of the world is interlinked isolationism is not possible.  The lunatic fringe liberals, so called environmentalist, use the liberal court system from allowing the US from developing our resources so we can become energy independant. It appears that Ron Paul is not a friend of Israel (he seems to be in Obama's court on this issue). He apparently will do nothing to keep the culturally retarded Muslims from continueing to overtake the world. Ron Paul is just not a viable choice for the Republican nomination.

R. P. is not an isolationist. That comes from media telling you what to think. Ron Paul wants free trade with all nations. It is the policy of Jefferson to avoid entanglements with all foreign countries and friendly trade with them all so far as is possible.

[Gary G]

Like I said before, this is a battle between liberty and freedom (Ron Paul) verses empire building (the others). The growth of won leads to the diminish of the other.


If it is Paul vs O-bomb-ya, then people have the same choice. Given this, most will choose freedom over slavery.

[Doublebass73]

Ron Paul is not a Republican, he is a Liberaterian running on the Republican ticket.  His foreign policy will sink him.  75& of the swing voters, and a bunch of the true Republicans, will vote for Obama over Paul.  Paul scares far too many people.

He's a loose cannon.

I have a really tough time imagining that any of your so called "True Republicans" could vote for Obama and live with themselves afterwards.

[yellowtail3]

Worth watching:

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[Casull]

Well, he couldn't beat Romney or Santorum.  But, the RP supporters will just put their fingers in their ears and go "la la la la la".   

[yellowtail3]

Well, he couldn't beat Romney or Santorum.  But, the RP supporters will just put their fingers in their ears and go "la la la la la".   

Should I read this as, if a candidate doesn't come in first in the first primary, their supporters of that candidate are... sticking their fingers in their ears? Should bail out immediately? Change their view? What?


Are your comments in any way related to the content of the video I posted? Looking for clarity, here..

[nw_hunter]

Well, he couldn't beat Romney or Santorum.  But, the RP supporters will just put their fingers in their ears and go "la la la la la".   

Not hardly! The kind of people that vote for Ron Paul will continue to work even harder for the only candidate in this Mock election worth a vote!Most of the people who vote for these Conservative imposters will continue to show their ignorance and flap their lips like a dummy at the hands of the ventriloquist(Mainstream Media) Truth be known, he probably finished first anyway! Even if he finished a close third, that's pretty amazing for a man who has had to fight his own party since day one!

Not aiming this at anyone in particular you know!

[Gary G]

Yes, worth watching Yellow. Reinhart and Rogoff have shown through historical economic analysis over 800 yesrs that when debt surpasses 90% GDP, growth slows and countries reaching this point invariably must default on their debt or hyperinflate, both of which are dire consequences. The US started this new year at 103% debt to GDP. It is more when you take in the off book debt such as the GSEs. The writing is on the wall.  http://www.amazon.com/This-Time-Different-Centuries-Financial/dp/0691142165


How did we get in such a predicament? Wars and welfare spending.


Ron Paul is right! If we had only listened to Jefferson and Washington. Some consider Paul extreme. That shows how far the American people have drifted from the ideology that this country was built upon.


Some, out of fear, want to blow up more countries. Those people are making us weaker. When the soldiers are out of the fort, the fort becomes more vulnerable. The government cannot make you safe. If you believe they can, why do you have locks on your doors.

[Swampman]

The money spent on wars amounted to very little and created many jobs.  Ron Paul is unelectable.

[Casull]

Truth be known, he probably finished first anyway!

 
Of course he did.     
 
 

Even if he finished a close third, that's pretty amazing for a man who has had to fight his own party since day one!

 
If you consider a third place finish in a Republican primary "amazing", then how can you seriously think he would beat obama in a general election?  I know I'm setting myself up for attack, as anyone who questions RP's ability to win an election (not his views, but his chances of actually winning) is considered un-American by several here.  But, I'm not talking about what the voters "should do" or what "Jefferson would have done", but about reality and what the majority of Americans WILL do now.  And, it's my opinion (based on looking at past elections and listening to people) that RP would NOT beat obama.  So, let the attack dogs have at it.  Oh, and this also isn't directed at anyone in particular.   

[NWBear]

The Iowa Caucus is famous for predicting who will NOT win the nomination and who will NOT be elected president.

The money spent on wars amounted to very little and created many jobs.  Ron Paul is unelectable.

It cost a lot in terms of Money - all unfunded by any off setting taxes - as well as lives lost and permanently altered.
Of course it was good for job creation at Haliburton, I hope the VP (Cheney) got a good bonus.  In addition it was probably good for undertaking, and long term medical providers.
God Bless all who served and especially those who gave all, theirs was a high price indeed.

[Swampman]

My son served there twice.  The wars created millions of American jobs all over the country, and they were inexpensive compared to all the socialist programs we have to pay for.

[DDZ]

I just have a hard time believing that a country that put Obama into office is going to do a 180 and put someone like Paul into office. Paul is the exact opposite of Obama. Maybe if the welfare recipients were not allowed to vote I would change my mind. I hope I'm wrong, because I would love to see someone as conservative minded as Paul get elected, but I just can't see it happening with so many voters looking for free housing, welfare, food, medical care, and any other goodies that government hands out. I know every citizen has the right to vote, but geez it just don't seem right that people can vote money out of tax payers pockets.

[Cuts Crooked]

Interestingly enough, Paul handily won the most liberal counties in Iowa.....which also happen to be the most heavily populated counties.

[yellowtail3]

I know I'm setting myself up for attack, as anyone who questions RP's ability to win an election (not his views, but his chances of actually winning) is considered un-American by several here.

Oh, don't let those folks bother you - we got all kinds. Heck, we've got some who don't believe that there are any American Muslims or patriotic gay soldiers - you don't take them seriously either, do you?


no attackin' from this quarter....

[Singleshotsam]

Ron Paul won one of the 3 tickets in Iowa.  He's huge among young voters (sound familiar?  Obama maybe?)  And he's the only pro constitution, anti spending GOP candidate.  And still, when our country is spiraling out of control in spending and debt, you guys say that Ron Paul's foreign policy is what is making him unelectable? 

I have news for you... WE CANNOT AFFORD TO GIVE FORIEGN AID!  To any country!  Period.  We can't afford these wars were in.  We can't afford to keep bailing out companies that are "to big to fail."  The capitalist system dictates that if a company can't run itself in a profitable fashion, then they are doomed to fail.  We can't afford to not wake up and accept the fact that we as a people have fail in our jobs to control the government.

The days of finger pointing are over.  I'm a young voter and it's very easy to realize that the majority of my elders fell asleep.  You keep hearing politicians say that "your grandchildren are the ones that are going to have to split the bill for the decisions made..."  I am one of those grandchildren! Long story short here.  Ron Paul is the only candidate that is trying to put the brakes on our decent into socialism.  He's the only one the realizes that we HAVE to cut spending immediately in order to fix this mess.  And he's the only candidate out there trying to patch up our eroding constitution. 

[Casull]

Singleshotsam, I don't think it just your elders that "fell asleep".  Remember, the young voters were some of the strongest supporters of obama, and helped put us where we are right now.

[powderman]

Singleshotsam, I don't think it just your elders that "fell asleep".  Remember, the young voters were some of the strongest supporters of obama, and helped put us where we are right now.

 
CASULL. YEP, sure did. POWDERMAN.