Author Topic: shy from a 270? (Read 1920 times)

fluffyphydeaux2010 · « **on:** January 02, 2012, 01:30:31 PM »

are they that bad? seems everyone shies from them.

petemi · « **Reply #1 on:** January 02, 2012, 03:11:04 PM »

"that bad" Hmmmm. I don't know. Patty got a .270 Rem 700. She liked it. I didn't care for it. I got a Ruger .308. Liked it. Then I got a Handi 7mm-08 and I felt I'd come home. Today, we each have light Handi 7mm-08s, and I have a Handi .308. Part of it, I think, has to do with the cartridge. Like the Handis, the 7mm load is Handi and versatile, as the 7mm-08 and the .308 in a short action bolt gun is compared to the .270 or the '06 in a long action. Perhaps that's where my distaste for the .270 lies and helps explain why my Handi '06 seldom gets used. The facts tell me the .270 is a superb caliber. I just prefer the 7mm.

Pete

Jimbo47 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 02, 2012, 03:42:32 PM »

Quote from: fluffyphydeaux2010 on January 02, 2012, 01:30:31 PM

are they that bad? seems everyone shies from them.

I've never heard anyone describe the .270 as being "that bad" and I owned one myself and never had any issues with it.

I took a buck with mine about two months after I bought it, but like Pete said, I didn't care for it, and it didn't fit my style of hunting so I sold off the barrel and went another route.

I will say you never hear too much mentioned about the .270 and that may be a good thing in that there are no issues and why you don't hear much about it.

fluffyphydeaux2010 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 02, 2012, 03:56:03 PM »

i ask cause I've had a 270 barrel listed for a few days and no one seems interested in an ejector 270

c1skout · « **Reply #4 on:** January 02, 2012, 03:56:21 PM »

I've had my 270 for a bunch of years and took quite a few deer with it. It's always gone bang and always ejected the empty just like a Handi-rifle should. It'll do 1/2" groups at 100 too with ammo it likes.

kennyd · « **Reply #5 on:** January 02, 2012, 04:13:06 PM »

My dislike comes from the max 150 gr. bullet. A 7 will go to 175. In reality a .270 is good up to elk; the real country boys use them all the time.

JB White · « **Reply #6 on:** January 02, 2012, 04:19:09 PM »

Quote from: fluffyphydeaux2010 on January 02, 2012, 03:56:03 PM

i ask cause I've had a 270 barrel listed for a few days and no one seems interested in an ejector 270

Being an ejector shouldn't bother anyone around here as that's easy enough to change. The 270 itself has passed its heyday though. It's sort of an orphan in todays market having been flanked by other cartridges better suited for the same purposes and not as flexible as some others. The popularity of the others has led to a wider variety in reloading components, more factory chamberings and such over the years. Thus they get more talk and more attention.
The 270 is a good cartridge but it's being largely ignored in today's press. Hang in there. If your price is right it'll sell as most shooters know its capabilities. It's simply a matter of justifying it. Especially if they already have a selection of similar job performers.

Jimbo47 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 02, 2012, 04:48:20 PM »

Quote from: fluffyphydeaux2010 on January 02, 2012, 03:56:03 PM

i ask cause I've had a 270 barrel listed for a few days and no one seems interested in an ejector 270

Yep, you are wanting to trade for some really popular calibers, and they don't show up often, and when they do they get snatched up pretty quick.

You might want to try and sell it outright instead of trade, and then watch the classifieds and hope to get lucky, or order an accessory barrel from the factory.

Sometimes you just have to be patient because when I was looking for my 45-70 barrel it seemed like nobody was selling and then when one appeared it got jumped on in just minutes of posting. After I bought mine there were at times two or three posted for sale.

It just seems to go in cycles and you just never know!

keith44 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 02, 2012, 04:57:15 PM »

I have no experience with a 270. It's not that I don't think it's a good round, 'cause it is. My reasoning for not having one is I simply have no use for it. There are other things I want and a 270 is just so far down the list it never makes the top 100. Why?? Simply put, my .25'06 has satisfied my passed yen for long range deer hunting. I say passed because of tagging out on opening morning several years in a row with 300-450 yard one shot kills. So I now choose to hunt close range areas only (my last buck was taken at 7 paces with a handgun) The rest of my hunting is varmints and small game. The 270 just does not have a use in my world at this time. Now if things change and I end up hunting something like mountain goat, Elk, or Moose, then the 270 will be in the top 5 of rifles I will want. Add to that list a .308, a 9.3 x 62, a 7-08, and a .280. So you can see I place the 270 along side some of the best cartridges available. It just comes down to what you will use one for, at this time I do not have a use for one.

fluffyphydeaux2010 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 02, 2012, 05:00:53 PM »

jimbo, i agree with the cycles thing.

parting it out

in the classifieds.

Dinny · « **Reply #10 on:** January 02, 2012, 06:24:42 PM »

I have been told the .270 shoots the barrel loose faster than any other caliber in a Handi. Whether that's true or not, I'm not taking the chance.

Thanks, Dinny

fluffyphydeaux2010 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 02, 2012, 06:28:01 PM »

no doubt in my mind it's a thumper.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #12 on:** January 02, 2012, 06:33:41 PM »

I've had four H&R 270s, still have two, all have been ejectors, they shoot just as good as any of my others, 1-1½" at 100yds, two were Ultracomps, sold one, another was a standard Handi which I bought as was the first barrel I fitted myself, the other is a 24" fluted bull barrel that's overbore(.2795" groove) and was poorly fitted from the factory, I basically set the barrel back by filing the barrel face to fit it and ended up rechambering it to 270Ackley by hand, and shooting .284" handloads, even they shoot good.

Tim

twoshooter · « **Reply #13 on:** January 02, 2012, 06:42:57 PM »

I remember all the way back to the Jack O'Connor/ Warren Page debates

There is not a thing wrong with a 270, a couple of my friends had featherweight model 70's, one pre-64, one post. They were not the most pleasant to shoot, but they performed like a champ. They are high pressure rounds though, and will bounce. They just are not currently in the limelight, and not in the handi high demand mode at the moment. Have patience, it will move,

LONGTOM · « **Reply #14 on:** January 03, 2012, 02:45:54 AM »

Would never be without a 270 of some sort, either standard, Weatherby mag or WSM.
Will take about any game out there with the right loading.
Not sure if they are still around but they use to make a 200gr hp bullet in 27 cal.
That would take even the large bears with no problem.
At present I own 7 of them.
3 standard (2 Winchester model 70s, 1 pre 64 and 1 post) 1 H&R.
1 Winchester custom shop model 70 post 64 270 Weatherby mag.
2 Winchester model 70s in 270 WSM and a Winchester Highwall in 270 WSM.
The only reason I don't jump on yours is I already have one.
The 270 has done all I could ever ask of one for over 45 years for me at distances out to 500 yds.
I really don't think any other round could do any better.
May be as good but not any better!
Maybe I was Jack O'Connor in my past life!!!
My only wish would be that an H&R could take the presures of the 270 WSM and have a 26" barrel !!!
Can you say SWEET!!!

LONGTOM

tobster · « **Reply #15 on:** January 03, 2012, 03:38:56 AM »

I've also noticed they take a little longer to sell here and seem to bring a little less money than most calibers. You can go back and see what others have sold for to get a pretty good idea what you can expect for your barrel.

Ol BW · « **Reply #16 on:** January 03, 2012, 12:36:42 PM »

The 270 Win. is a fine caliber. Just as any cartridge, it is great for what it is designed and loaded for. + one on things going in cycles. I once had a Remington 700 in 270 I bought for my first ex-wife, and it was excellent. I also have a good friend that has a Handi Rifle in 270 and it is a SHOOTER! If that is what you want and it will fit what you want to use it for it is an excellent choice. It is just not as popular right now for some reason or another.

gendoc · « **Reply #17 on:** January 03, 2012, 12:59:33 PM »

Quote from: LONGTOM on January 03, 2012, 02:45:54 AM

My only wish would be that an H&R could take the presures of the 270 WSM and have a 26" barrel !!!
Can you say SWEET!!!

LONGTOM

me and you both LT.................

bilmac · « **Reply #18 on:** January 03, 2012, 01:04:34 PM »

My first centerfire was a Rem 721. That was 50 years ago. Had one most of the time since then. They just get er done. You don't need anything else for the lower 48.

Yak Angler · « **Reply #19 on:** January 03, 2012, 01:30:37 PM »

My .270 stainless handi was my first handi of any kind and i will never get rid of it. The .270 IMO has more to offer than any other handi caliber, it takes all north american big game with ease and can take whitetail and smaller to 500 yards, it is one of the flattest shooting of all popular big game cartridges. Some things in life can't be improved upon, the .270 win is one of them. For me it is also the largest centerfire rifle cartridge i can legally hunt with, not sure why they did that as it outperforms most larger bore size centerfires anyway.

STUMPJMPR · « **Reply #20 on:** January 03, 2012, 01:47:14 PM »

I've had a .270 for about 20 years. I've killed several deer and hogs with it. Never lost one.

gendoc · « **Reply #21 on:** January 03, 2012, 02:00:07 PM »

yep, we have our share of tha .270 in bolt guns, never hadda problem withum and have kilt manya critter

. if it was'nt that good.... why has it been around so long

quatroclick · « **Reply #22 on:** January 03, 2012, 05:30:59 PM »

The 270 is really about as good as it gets. There is a reason that when a new hunting rifle is introduced, you can just about bet that the available calibers will be .243, .270, .308 and 30-06. The reason is that no other calibers are really needed for North American big game. Popular, effective, and maybe a bit too conventional for everyone looking for the next big thing.

Sourdough · « **Reply #23 on:** January 03, 2012, 05:49:37 PM »

Why own a .270, when you can own an 06. I have shot several .270s, all recoil pretty heavy. I've only been knocked over twice by recoil, the first one was a .270, the second was a 3 1/2 ' 12ga. single shot. My 30-06s don't seem to recoil as bad as the .270. Plus with the 30-06 I have a much broader selection of bullets.

Ranch13 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:13:01 PM »

Quote from: fluffyphydeaux2010 on January 02, 2012, 01:30:31 PM

are they that bad? seems everyone shies from them.

My 270 handi is very accurate. The problem with the thing comes when you get off the bench and into the real world. The forward slingswivel and stud will take a hunk out of your forehand every shot, due to the recoil. It that slingswivel stud was somewhere else it'ld be a fine rifle.

LONGTOM · « **Reply #25 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:22:11 PM »

Quote from: Sourdough on January 03, 2012, 05:49:37 PM

Why own a .270, when you can own an 06. I have shot several .270s, all recoil pretty heavy. I've only been knocked over twice by recoil, the first one was a .270, the second was a 3 1/2 ' 12ga. single shot. My 30-06s don't seem to recoil as bad as the .270. Plus with the 30-06 I have a much broader selection of bullets.

Now I feel just the oppsite.
It's the 06 that seems to kick me harder than the 270.
That is in Winchester model 70s and in the H&Rs.
The only other 06s I own and shoot are a Win M1 GARAND and a couple of Remington model 30s.

Just as different guns shoot differently I guess each shooter reacts or perceives recoil differently!
Mostly has to do with the way the stock is shaped and the weight of the gun.
I don't think H&Rs kick near as hard as a Ruger #1 or #3 in the same calibers.
May just be me.

LONGTOM

RIF · « **Reply #26 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:49:00 PM »

Quote from: -Dinny on January 02, 2012, 06:24:42 PM

I have been told the .270 shoots the barrel loose faster than any other caliber in a Handi. Whether that's true or not, I'm not taking the chance.

Thanks, Dinny

Where is this information? I just bought one in 270 and am concerned now. So a 30-06 or a 35 Whelen will not do it as fast?

OldSchoolRanger · « **Reply #27 on:** January 04, 2012, 03:57:03 AM »

The 270 is a good caliber, but I really don't have a need for it. Where I hunt, the longest shot, I would ever have would be 200 yards. My rifles in other calibers can more than handle this.

With the 270, it's just a matter of personal preferences. I have only one 270, which I bought years ago, took it out to the range fired it to sight it in, thought about it, compared it to the other calibers I have, never really felt, I had a need for it. It's been sitting in my safe for years. Now, if I lived in the west where there are those wide open spaces...Hmmm.

fluffy - Hang in there, someone will come forward and adopt that barrel.

Ranch13 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 04, 2012, 04:13:40 AM »

Quote from: RIF on January 03, 2012, 06:49:00 PM

Quote from: -Dinny on January 02, 2012, 06:24:42 PM

I have been told the .270 shoots the barrel loose faster than any other caliber in a Handi. Whether that's true or not, I'm not taking the chance.

Thanks, Dinny

Where is this information? I just bought one in 270 and am concerned now. So a 30-06 or a 35 Whelen will not do it as fast?

Sounds like someone pipe dreaming. There's no reason a 270 would shoot a barrel loose any faster than any other cartridge. The pressures it runs at are no greater than the other highpower centerfire cartridges.

RIF · « **Reply #29 on:** January 04, 2012, 07:26:14 AM »

That is my assumption too. Is there someone who has shot a 270, 30-06 etc. barreled frame a few thousand times that might put my mind at ease? I am a high volume shooter and I do not want any issues. I will put more rounds through that gun in a weekend than my hunting buddies shoot in twenty years.

No worries then??

Quote from: Ranch13 on January 04, 2012, 04:13:40 AM

Quote from: RIF on January 03, 2012, 06:49:00 PM
Quote from: -Dinny on January 02, 2012, 06:24:42 PM

I have been told the .270 shoots the barrel loose faster than any other caliber in a Handi. Whether that's true or not, I'm not taking the chance.

Thanks, Dinny

Where is this information? I just bought one in 270 and am concerned now. So a 30-06 or a 35 Whelen will not do it as fast?
Sounds like someone pipe dreaming. There's no reason a 270 would shoot a barrel loose any faster than any other cartridge. The pressures it runs at are no greater than the other highpower centerfire cartridges.