Author Topic: Ruger American (Read 5759 times)

rugerfan.64 · « **on:** January 02, 2012, 03:58:14 PM »

So today I'm checking my email. Ruger sends me email cause I asked for a catalog. So anyway,Ruger has announced a new rifle design. Looks like a cross between a T/C,Savage and Remington. But it has a 3 lug bolt. Comes in 4 standard calibers. Won dering what the reviews will bring. Could be a real winner.could also suck really big too. I think its their answer to the Savage/Remington intro rifles. Time will tell. When some of y'all get one I'd like to hear reviews.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #1 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:17:56 AM »

I dont buy bargin basement rifles so it doesnt do anything for me. I do know that id hate to see them go to that action for the top line guns. Aint to pretty imo. But as far as bargin guns go it aint no homelier then the rest of them.

drdougrx · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:21:15 AM »

I'm glad they did it...if only so they can compete. I won't have one either but I can see why they would. I do have to admit...I gotta knot in my stomach when I ordered a 77/17 new for $600 and then "had" to accurize it and have the trigger done for another $200.

rugerfan.64 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2012, 03:25:59 PM »

I agree with you both, BUT, if it actually shot like a house afire,,,,, well that'd be different. I'd just have to hope no one saw me carrying it around. LOL

tobster · « **Reply #4 on:** January 04, 2012, 02:44:49 AM »

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Quote from: drdougrx on January 03, 2012, 09:21:15 AM

I'm glad they did it...if only so they can compete. I won't have one either but I can see why they would. I do have to admit...I gotta knot in my stomach when I ordered a 77/17 new for $600 and then "had" to accurize it and have the trigger done for another $200.

" Don't feel alone. I bought a 77/17HMR and am now faced with the job of getting it to shoot as good as the "cheap" Savage that it replaced. I noticed the American has a trigger that looks something like the Savage Accutrigger.

drdougrx · « **Reply #5 on:** January 04, 2012, 05:24:10 AM »

Tobster!!!! I traded my savage 93BV17 for the Ruger as well!

Stuart C. · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2012, 01:43:31 PM »

Quote from: drdougrx on January 04, 2012, 05:24:10 AM

Tobster!!!! I traded my savage 93BV17 for the Ruger as well!

I hate to say this, but I just picked up a 93 17 stainless w/ accutrigger. Love my Rugers

but for ~$300 it is ridiculously accurate and kinda handsome for a utility gun.

Enlightening really.

singleVI · « **Reply #7 on:** January 06, 2012, 10:10:32 AM »

To me it looks like Ruger cloned a Tikka T3 and made some changes. Thumb safety, recoil lug, magazine etc...

poncaguy · « **Reply #8 on:** January 07, 2012, 11:26:40 AM »

I ordered one in 270 yesterday.............don't know when my dealer will find one, said he would be talking to his Ruger Rep this weekend ,was about to buy another Savage Axis in 270 since I sold my Marlin XL7 270...............

poncaguy · « **Reply #9 on:** January 07, 2012, 11:30:13 AM »

GunBlast had a report on one in 30-06, worse group was 1" with 3 different bullet weights...

GeorgiaDave · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2012, 07:23:28 AM »

Hello,

I have always been a huge fan of Ruger and am glad to see them moving along with the current trends. While the Blackhawk, Redhawk, #1, M-77, G&SP,P-series, Mini 14 &30, Black Label an 10-22 have been around quite some time now, and have more than proved their worth, the gun world loves new offerings from a premier maker. With the new .45 1911, SR Autos, AR, LCP&R, and now the American Rifle, Ruger may be in the position to introduce a whole new group of gun lovers to the Eagle we have always loved and respected. While this "new" rifle may be a bit different than what we are used to or would like to see, I think it is a very safe bet to assume that it will indeed be a sweet shooting piece. I am not in the market for a new rifle but may very well make room in the safe for one in 30/06 just to have one with the initial year serial number. Like it or not, times change, and for a company to prosper they must adapt to increase their following. I like this new rifle already, and have not even put my hands on one yet. Looks like pure 100% RUGER to me. Have a great day.

Dave

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2012, 08:27:34 PM »

Quote from: singleVI on January 06, 2012, 10:10:32 AM

To me it looks like Ruger cloned a Tikka T3 and made some changes. Thumb safety, recoil lug, magazine etc...

They can only hope to have made such a good rifle. Time will tell but I am certainly open minded. I would kind of like to see one with a youth stock as an option.

Swampman · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2012, 11:55:54 PM »

For the same money you can get a Model 700 at Walmart. Ruger should stay out of the entry level market.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #13 on:** January 24, 2012, 04:11:42 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on January 23, 2012, 11:55:54 PM

For the same money you can get a Model 700 at Walmart. Ruger should stay out of the entry level market.

And any number of other entry level rifles. Why does Remington offer a cheap rifle?

xhare · « **Reply #14 on:** January 25, 2012, 06:55:08 AM »

If the specs are correct, then they made it in a long and short action. A good decision and something Savage didn't do with their Axis, nor Remington with their 770. The Axis rifles I have handled felt fine, but are a bit longer than they need to be. The Rem 770 and its earlier 710 brother have the roughest bolts I have ever handled.

Swampman · « **Reply #15 on:** January 25, 2012, 10:26:49 AM »

I'm not sure when you can buy the Model 700 for the same price. It's the best selling and most accurate production rifle in the world.

rugerfan.64 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 25, 2012, 12:45:35 PM »

When I opened this post I opened it in the hopes that some one would eventually get, their hands on one and offer an evaluation for the rest of us who are interested in this to perhaps learn something. When I opened this post I did not anticipate it being a drubbing session on Ruger, nor did I expect it to be a bragging post for Remington. I should've known better. In the future if it was at all possible I would like to hear from someone that has an honest evaluation of the rifles design,features,likes and dislikes. I'd really love to have an objectionable accuracy review. Even tho we all know that Remington IS THE MOST ACCURATE OUT OF THE BOX RIFLE, according to Remingtons advertising and Swampy. So please folks, feel free to offer your opinions.

Omaha-BeenGlockin · « **Reply #17 on:** January 26, 2012, 03:52:26 PM »

I think its still a bit early for anyone to have one in their grubby little hands yet---probably a few months before that happens. Not like its the newest handgun out and you can go try it out at the indoor range down the road.
No intention of buying one here since my Hawkeye is doing all I ask of it and I'm actually selling off the other bolt actions in the safe because they just sit there.
I try to be generally hands off in here and let everyone say their piece--but yes, some Remington fans can be irritating in a Ruger forum from time to time.

rugerfan.64 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 26, 2012, 04:43:30 PM »

Well,,,,,,, ya know ,,,,,,, ya just have to get your digs in on Swampy when ya can,,,,, Sure he's a great guy.

saddlebum · « **Reply #19 on:** January 26, 2012, 10:14:46 PM »

It won't work for me. They did away with all the reasons why I like Ruger bolt actions. The classic design with a three position swing safety. Claw extractor and a reasonable trigger. Cost cutting measures I assume.
I wonder why they call it the American. It looks like a "euro" design to me. I also don't care for detacable box magazines on bolt guns.
I used to have an old model 77 with the tang safety and I didn't like it at all with the safety on the wrist of the stock.
Maybe someone could explain to me the advantage of having a three lug bolt instead of the two lug bolt.

Swampman · « **Reply #20 on:** January 27, 2012, 02:04:06 AM »

It does look rather Sako-ish.

atitagain · « **Reply #21 on:** January 27, 2012, 05:27:16 AM »

Entry level guns are like any other product lines we buy.
Not everybody can afford a Corvette, but they like the GM product line.

Entry level guns may not have all the bells and whistles, or look as sleek and stylish, but if they can deliver the bullet to the same impact point.....

Manufactures can't just overlook an entire segment of the gun buying population.
With the economy the way it is, manufacturers need to try and fulfill the needs of as many customers as they can.
If a customer needs an entry level gun, and they have to go to another brand to get it, that customer may NOT come back next time.

saddlebum · « **Reply #22 on:** January 27, 2012, 09:08:11 AM »

I'm not arguing the concept of an entry level hunting rifle. But my thinking is to shop for a used version of the rifle that I want if I can't afford a new one. It's surprising what can be found in gun shop used racks, want ads and pawn shops. I liked the Winchester offerings that used to show up in Walmart way back when. But since they are gone, my narrow minded preferences don't allow me to accept the offerings that are available in the "entry level" rifle racks today.
But thats the price I pay for being me.......I guess...............

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #23 on:** January 28, 2012, 06:18:03 AM »

Quote from: saddlebum on January 27, 2012, 09:08:11 AM

I'm not arguing the concept of an entry level hunting rifle. But my thinking is to shop for a used version of the rifle that I want if I can't afford a new one. It's surprising what can be found in gun shop used racks, want ads and pawn shops. I liked the Winchester offerings that used to show up in Walmart way back when. But since they are gone, my narrow minded preferences don't allow me to accept the offerings that are available in the "entry level" rifle racks today.
But thats the price I pay for being me.......I guess...............

I tend to agree with you on the used guns. First few I could not accept the idea of a used gun. Later I decided that my new ones were now used and no worse for the experience.

I am also much more aware as to what I should look for in a used gun as well. I likely won't get a used revolver as I have no experience with them, subsequent models would very likely be used, but not till I've gone to school. A lesson bought being a lesson taught and all, I'm just a bit leery about, new classes.

Harry Snippe · « **Reply #24 on:** January 30, 2012, 02:07:47 PM »

I think this new rifle might just be a plus for ruger

.It may look a bit like a tikka then the three lug bolt reminds me of the TC venture . The trigger Savage /Marlin.

One review I read, with a test rifle in 3006 , the writer was able to shoot MOA , so with some reloads I bet the rifle could do better once you learn the sweet spot .

Nothing remington here ! Swampy Remington may learn a thing or two to improve the remington line .I hear often once you buy the remi, you replace the trigger as well as the stock .Nothin' like the rifles they had from the 60's and sevent's which were indeed good guns , once a smith did something with their triggers .

Ruger triggers were always something one got reworked or replaced for the Lawyer let off and this trigger might open the door to those that never liked the rugers for the factory triggers .Can't wait to get my hands on one !!

Now if you can get the trigger a hair below 3LBs and good crisp let off I may have one follow me home .

Swampman · « **Reply #25 on:** January 30, 2012, 02:26:47 PM »

Nothing wrong with Remington triggers and stocks. New Remingtons are much more accurate than those from the 60s and they were MOA rifles.

Graybeard · « **Reply #26 on:** January 30, 2012, 05:49:43 PM »

If nothing else is accomplished by the introduction of this rifle Ruger has now replaced Savage as having the ugliest action of any bolt action rifle. Quite an accomplishment really.

Harry Snippe · « **Reply #27 on:** January 30, 2012, 09:10:06 PM »

Quote from: Graybeard on January 30, 2012, 05:49:43 PM

If nothing else is accomplished by the introduction of this rifle Ruger has now replaced Savage as having the ugliest action of any bolt action rifle. Quite an accomplishment really.

Well I think the prize should really go to the remington 770 , but who really cares .

Don't really care for the Axis, but then never had one to the shoulder so what can I say.

The new amerian ruger is a new kid on the block so let the non remington lads have on in hand .

George Foster · « **Reply #28 on:** January 31, 2012, 12:06:53 AM »

I always get a kick out of the Remington lovers, if anyone says anything good about another brand they seem to always try to run that brand down. I have two Rem 700's, a 243 CDL and a semi custom 6mm CDL and I also have two Ruger MKII 77's, again a 243 and a 6mm. All four rifles will shoot 1/2" or better groups with the handloads they like. All four rifles have been bedded and free floated, the 243 CDL and both Rugers have Timney triggers in them. My Ruger 6mm has shot more such groups with different weight bullets than the other three rifles. There are things I like about both the Remingtons and Rugers and that is why I own both. The most accurate rifle I own is an Rem 788 in 6mm with a ER Shaw barrel and a custom walnut stock. As far as I am concerned any rifle (With the exception of a lemon from any of the manufacturers) will be more accurate than you can shoot.

Swampman · « **Reply #29 on:** January 31, 2012, 03:36:05 AM »

The thing is the Remingtons will shoot 1/2 MOA without anything being done to them and they are cheap.