lol,,,,, I've been in the hosp with my son since friday night so this is the first time I've had a chuckle since I got here. Swampy is as predictable as the sun rise about Remingtons. Gb was right, these rifles might be ugly but like I said before,,,,, Its kinda like having an ugly gf,,,,,, Its ok as long as your buddies dont see ya with her.........and dont go gettin all smug,,,,,,, you know what I'm talking about.