Author Topic: Stutzen/Mannlicher style forend for Handi? (Read 2795 times)

RPRNY · « **on:** January 05, 2012, 07:48:26 AM »

I was wondering if anyone has ever made, had made or seen a full barrel length Stutzen or Mannlicher style forend for a Handi rifle?

I''m a fan of the Stutzen/Mannlicher style stock and was thinking what a great mountain rifle a Handi in .270 with a Stutzen forend would be. I suppose a BC forend and cut barrel would come close, but I believe cutting a 270 barrel woulld be somewhat self defeating. Not that it would likely be economically viable, but is there anyone that might stand out as uniquely qualified to make one in your mind?

Here's an example of a great mountain rifle the Ruger #1 so stocked:

thejanitor · « **Reply #1 on:** January 05, 2012, 08:25:04 AM »

I have seen them here (GBO), they were original on some of the old H&Rs but very limited as many here hadn't seen many of them at all. Not sure of the model (topper?) but they look cool. I only have seen one forend go through the classifieds and it was a while ago. thejanitor

quickdtoo · « **Reply #2 on:** January 05, 2012, 08:33:31 AM »

What Brent said, H&R Inc made the Model 157, then they were offered again after 1987 sometime, several members here have some of those, myself included. The only source now is GSI.

Tim

http://www.gunstocksinc.com/web_pages/Odds-n-Ends.htm

JB White · « **Reply #3 on:** January 05, 2012, 08:48:47 AM »

Just a thought here....

A forend is pretty straight forward and can be made with some basic home workshop tools. Thinking...a drill press, router table, spokeshave or hand planes and sanding block. Sharp knife and a couple of good chisels. Good saw for trimming...and a few other tools which are more preferences than requirements. Patience and good measurements.
End caps and sling swivels are available from a multitude of dealer/suppliers for muzzleloading builders. You can purchase and can fit to your liking with little cost. Checkering is another story but companies like Brownells can get you going pretty good with starter kits and tutorials. Somewhat more costly to get started up but you'll always have the tools and the knowledge afterward.

Then it's fitting and finishing and bedding which you would need to do even if a stock supplier furnished one. Do you know anyone near you that has the time and basic woodworking or perhaps cabinet making capabilities?

spikehorn · « **Reply #4 on:** January 05, 2012, 09:21:20 AM »

I have a 45-70 with a manlicher and I think I just saw a thread about a 270 manlicher for sale on an auction site

RPRNY · « **Reply #5 on:** January 05, 2012, 09:23:30 AM »

Tim,

Those are great looking. Exactly what I was thinking. The 157 looks great with the color case hardening and the later Handi looks a nice stock at least in the light. Sadly, seeing them serves only to increase my interest... May have to get the GSI forend and work from there, thanks.

JB,

I certainly have neither the time nor the ability but I can think of someone who might take up the challenge. I'll have to see what he thinks.

spikehorn · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2012, 09:26:14 AM »

I just went back and found the thread. The 270 manlicher has been sold.

RPRNY · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2012, 09:41:26 AM »

Quote from: spikehorn on January 05, 2012, 09:26:14 AM

I just went back and found the thread. The 270 manlicher has been sold.

Thanks for looking it up. I was about to ask where the thread and/or auction was. Guess I'll have to keep my eyes open.

thejanitor · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2012, 10:48:05 AM »

OH and by the way RPRNY- WELCOME! Just saw your post count, sorry I missed it before.
thejanitor

RPRNY · « **Reply #9 on:** January 05, 2012, 11:24:12 AM »

Quote from: thejanitor on January 05, 2012, 10:48:05 AM

OH and by the way RPRNY- WELCOME! Just saw your post count, sorry I missed it before.
thejanitor

Thanks. I've been about for a while - just not much to say....

sobeit · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2012, 12:38:42 PM »

Go to GB sponser.."Gunstock Inc" they list a full length forend for the NEF's.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2012, 12:41:50 PM »

Quote from: sobeit on January 05, 2012, 12:38:42 PM

Go to GB sponser.."Gunstock Inc" they list a full length forend for the NEF's.

You're a little late, that's what happens when ya don't read the entire discussion!

Tim

Quote from: quickdtoo on January 05, 2012, 08:33:31 AM

What Brent said, H&R Inc made the Model 157, then they were offered again after 1987 sometime, several members here have some of those, myself included. The only source now is GSI.

Tim

http://www.gunstocksinc.com/web_pages/Odds-n-Ends.htm

rdlange · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2012, 01:44:41 PM »

Here's another pretty one...

Winter Hawk · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2012, 03:43:35 PM »

I saw the other day that Numrich has the fore end caps available for the Mannlicher forearm.

-WH-

PHATINJUN · « **Reply #14 on:** January 05, 2012, 04:18:00 PM »

My 157 Hornet has one plus I got an after market one . The M157 forend will not fit other bbls without modification as the screw stud is closer to the frame than modern bbls. Winterhawk was that end cap steel or plastic? I think Tim has one that is steel?Kurt

Winter Hawk · « **Reply #15 on:** January 05, 2012, 04:47:02 PM »

Plastic:

www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=586960&catid=2329

-WH-

RPRNY · « **Reply #16 on:** January 05, 2012, 05:11:13 PM »

You have inspired me! I bought the GSI forend and MC cheekpiece buttstock and the forend cap and hardware from Numrich. Knowing myself, this could take years, but hopefully I will eventually have one.

And after buying the Numrich plastic forend cap, found this steel one at Midway in steel...http://www.midwayusa.com/product/695187/necg-mannlicher-style-forend-cap-610-blue

keith44 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2012, 08:15:45 PM »

hmm, now I am getting inspired

PHATINJUN · « **Reply #18 on:** January 06, 2012, 12:38:20 AM »

If you are willing to fit one Dixie Gun Works has steel and brass caps. Kurt

RPRNY · « **Reply #19 on:** January 06, 2012, 03:41:47 AM »

Quote from: PHATINJUN on January 06, 2012, 12:38:20 AM

If you are willing to fit one Dixie Gun Works has steel and brass caps. Kurt

Kurt,

I can't find it searching 'mannlicher' 'stutzen' 'forend cap' 'cap' or 'harrington & richardson'. Could you please give me some direction as to what it's listed under at Dixie?

Thanks very much,

ratherbefishin · « **Reply #20 on:** January 06, 2012, 04:25:05 AM »

I really like the look of a full length stock-but how do they shoot?Is the full length barrel detrimental to accuracy?Does the end cap preclude free floating?

sobeit · « **Reply #21 on:** January 06, 2012, 04:56:11 AM »

Or just make one....pic is TC G2...stock is a old buffet top in cherry glued together. Get a barrel channel cutter from Brownells (Gunline) and go to work.

reclusej · « **Reply #22 on:** January 06, 2012, 04:58:33 AM »

Here is my contribution to this post. Its an early '80s Mod, 157
30-30 Cal. Shoots great. Don't know if barrel lenght makes a differance.
reclusej

quickdtoo · « **Reply #23 on:** January 06, 2012, 05:49:54 AM »

My 45-70 with the mannlicher forend shot fine even with my old eyes behind the peep sight from 100yds....without the barrel band, didn't as so well with it. Shots #3 and #4 were after sight adjustments.

Tim

JB White · « **Reply #24 on:** January 06, 2012, 06:16:47 AM »

Quote from: sobeit on January 06, 2012, 04:56:11 AM

Or just make one....pic is TC G2...stock is a old buffet top in cherry glued together. Get a barrel channel cutter from Brownells (Gunline) and go to work.

I admire your craftsmanship. Recycling at its finest.

Slowhanddd · « **Reply #25 on:** January 06, 2012, 06:23:57 AM »

Slowhanddd · « **Reply #26 on:** January 06, 2012, 06:26:39 AM »

Sorry forgot to type anything.Here's a fore end I made to ride bags on the bench.Used a rotory rasp and a drill press for the channel and the end to the receiver.Wasn't hard to do and could've been cut down to a tapered end on the barrel.Hope this helps,Dave

MSP Ret · « **Reply #27 on:** January 06, 2012, 06:40:39 AM »

You may have better luck lookimg up the correct spelling of the word, I believe it to be "Schutzen"....<><....

quickdtoo · « **Reply #28 on:** January 06, 2012, 06:47:00 AM »

Stutzen isn't the same term as Schutzen, those darn Germans and their lingo!

I have an RWS Stutzen for example.

Tim

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_8_50/ai_n6081523/

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Diana_RWS_46_Stutzen/684

JB White · « **Reply #29 on:** January 06, 2012, 06:48:10 AM »

Misspelled or not, but it's still a nice example of what can be done with a thought out plan and home workshop tools.