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US court weighs policy against cursing and nudity on tv.
« on: January 10, 2012, 09:20:04 AM »
US court weighs policy against curse words on TV  US court weighs policy against curse words on TV US court weighs policy against curse words on TV   by Associated Press Associated Press Posted on January 10, 2012 at 1:01 PM
Updated today at 2:32 PM        WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court debated whether policing curse words and nudity on broadcast television makes sense in the cable era, with one justice suggesting it's a moot point at a time when broadcast TV seems headed the way of "vinyl records and 8-track tapes."
The justices engaged in colorful give-and-take Tuesday with lawyers for the government and television networks over government regulation of the airwaves during hours when children are likely to be watching.
Some justices said they were troubled by inconsistent standards that allowed certain words and displays in some contexts, but not in others.
One example frequently cited by the networks was the Federal Communications Commission's decision not to punish ABC's airing of "Saving Private Ryan," with its strong language, while objecting to the same words when uttered by celebrities in live awards show programming.
Justice Elena Kagan said the FCC policy was, "Nobody can use dirty words or nudity except Steven Spielberg," director of the World War II movie. Other justices seemed more open to maintaining the current rules because they allow parents to put their children in front of the television without having to worry they will be bombarded by vulgarity.
Chief Justice John Roberts, the only member of the court with young children, hammered away at that point, saying he wondered why broadcasters would oppose regulation of a few channels so that parents can know that children "are not going to hear the S-word, the F-word" or see nudity.
But at least one justice, Samuel Alito, talked about how rapidly technological change has effectively consigned vinyl records and 8-tracks to the scrap heap, suggesting that in a rapidly changing universe, time will take care of the dispute.
The free speech case pits the Obama administration against U.S. television networks. The material at issue includes the isolated use of expletives as well as fines against broadcasters who showed a woman's nude buttocks on a 2003 episode of ABC's "NYPD Blue."
The broadcasters want the court to overturn a 1978 decision that upheld the Federal Communications Commission's authority to regulate both radio and television content, at least during the hours when children are likely to be watching or listening. That period includes the prime-time hours before 10 p.m.
At the very least, the networks say the FCC's current policy is too hard to figure out, penalizing the use of particular curse words in some instances, but not in others.
The administration said that even with the explosion of entertainment options, broadcast programming remains dominant. It also needs to be kept as a dependable "safe haven" of milder programming, the administration said.
Arguing for the government, Solicitor General Donald Verrilli Jr. said that if the court were to overrule its 33-year-old decision, "the risk of a race to the bottom is real."
But Carter Phillips, representing the networks in connection with the awards shows, said that little would change because broadcasters would remain sensitive to advertisers and viewers who do not want the airwaves filled with dirty words and nudity.
Nearly nine out of 10 households subscribe to cable or satellite television and viewers can switch between broadcast and other channels by pushing a button on their remote controls. "People have really lost track of which stations are broadcast stations," said Paul Smith, a partner with the Jenner and Block law firm who has argued free speech cases at the Supreme Court.
But supporters of regulation said the media companies that own television networks also have movie studios, cable channels and other outlets where they are free to run whatever they wish.
Even on television, the rules only apply between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m., noted Tim Winter, president of the pro-regulation Parents Television Council. "Radio and television broadcasters already have the ability to be as indecent as they want after 10 p.m."
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 09:34:50 AM »
my wife and I usually watch jeopardy at 7:30, but last night we let the time slip up on us and TMZ came on. that was as nasty as anything I've heard or seen.
in some cases, maybe we need to legislate morallity. or at least restrict it to the wee hours.

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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012, 11:16:20 AM »
BUGEYE. I'm not familiar with tmz so can't comment on it. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012, 11:34:39 AM »
PM, it comes on at 7:30 eastern on your local CBS affiliate.  watch it about 5 minutes.
last night they were talking about "chaz bonos" new male body parts.  sickening.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 12:12:33 PM »
I am for less government period. We don,t need them to regulate what we watch on TV period!!!!! If you don,t like whats on the channel then change it. As far as kids go be a parent and not allow them to watch what you think is inappropriate for them. Dale
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2012, 12:29:37 PM »
I am for less government period. We don,t need them to regulate what we watch on TV period!!!!! If you don,t like whats on the channel then change it. As far as kids go be a parent and not allow them to watch what you think is inappropriate for them. Dale
It's kinda like letting a salesman get his foot in the door. the more smut they get away with, the more smut they add on.  my child is grown, but the country is full of latch-key kids that watch what they please.  when my wife was off for Christmas she tried to catch up on her soaps, but said they were getting too risque for daytime TV. there's people that claim pedophilia as part of their religion. should we allow that?  we don't need to force religion on people, BUT WE CAN TELL THEM TO PUT IT BACK IN THE CLOSET WHERE THEY DRAGGED IT OUT OF.
It's sad that supposedly conservative people are getting the liberal slant on morallity.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2012, 01:33:55 PM »
Well if they are going to do it then they also need to scrap the FCC and all of its expensive employees as well. No use for an agency that isnt doing anything.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2012, 03:42:09 PM »
Well if they are going to do it then they also need to scrap the FCC and all of its expensive employees as well. No use for an agency that isnt doing anything.

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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2012, 04:40:20 PM »
Well if they are going to do it then they also need to scrap the FCC and all of its expensive employees as well. No use for an agency that isnt doing anything.

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2012, 09:23:52 PM »
I don't have cable, so most of what we watch is PBS, sometimes NBC.  CBS is all messed up with funny little squares on it all the time.  We never watch ABC, it's an Anchorage Station.  Then there is always KJNP, (That is King Jesus, North Pole).   That's all the TV we get, don't think it would be a problem for any ones kids.
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 02:53:31 AM »
I don't have cable, so most of what we watch is PBS, sometimes NBC.  CBS is all messed up with funny little squares on it all the time.  We never watch ABC, it's an Anchorage Station.  Then there is always KJNP, (That is King Jesus, North Pole).   That's all the TV we get, don't think it would be a problem for any ones kids.
that's what we all should return to.  and yes the FCC is useless.
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2012, 03:55:40 AM »
There must be something about the entertainment industry that requires that they play around in the gutter.  Even the commercials with the Viagra and Cialis and their four hour woodies that play every few minutes are just an attempt to put lipstick on a pig.  I guess we should be thankful they at least use a bit more clinical language in those things.
 
In all honesty though, almost anywhere you go these days where younger folks are around, you're going to hear every four-letter word that has ever been invented.  None of that is any reason why there shouldn't be some reasonable standards on broadcast and cable media.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2012, 04:09:25 AM »
There must be something about the entertainment industry that requires that they play around in the gutter.  Even the commercials with the Viagra and Cialis and their four hour woodies that play every few minutes are just an attempt to put lipstick on a pig.  I guess we should be thankful they at least use a bit more clinical language in those things.
 
In all honesty though, almost anywhere you go these days where younger folks are around, you're going to hear every four-letter word that has ever been invented.  None of that is any reason why there shouldn't be some reasonable standards on broadcast and cable media.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2012, 04:53:47 AM »
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In all honesty though, almost anywhere you go these days where younger folks are around, you're going to hear every four-letter word that has ever been invented.  None of that is any reason why there shouldn't be some reasonable standards on broadcast and cable media. 
     Agreed Sir. Another example of being raised without God in their lives, started with madelyn ohare dontcha know, and the dems been pushing it ever since. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2012, 04:59:01 AM »
Really, its all about ratings and money.  Popular TV today reflects how most people live, talk  and act, or at least envision they do.  One persons standard might not be another's, and when one person starts dictating what another can see or hear, based on their personal standards, we start down a slippery slope.  As in the past, when the general public, as a whole, finds something a little too over the top, the ratings show it, and the producers throttle back.  If you don't care for a particular program, just change the channel.  A real problem is parents not supervising what their kids watch, but that's not unexpected being that a lot of parents seem to have a hard time being parents to their kids in almost any facet of life.
 
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2012, 08:48:28 AM »
A lot of people like the shows that are on the edge.  They would not want anyone to know they are watching these programs in the privacy of their homes.  In public they will condem this programing, but behind closed doors they will watch it.  And parents don't get involved with what the kids are watching.  Put kid locks on something and the kids will find a way around it.

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Over the last weekend, the wife myself and pour 22yr old son was talking about things.  Sky said something about an adult subject.  The wife asked him where he learned about things like that.  His response blew her away.  "Aw come on Mom, you sent me to a Catholic school".  Later as we were sitting on the sofa watching TV, she snuggled up to me and said, "Guess we need to make sure the Grand Kids don't go to Catholic schools hunh".  I laughed.  We can only protect the kids so far.  Society will do the rest.  It's no longer like it was when we were growing up.   
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Re: US court weighs policy against cursing and nudity on tv.
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2012, 09:09:05 AM »
I understand ya'lls point about TV . I dropped HBO because it was alot of filth. Its this to me a love scene can be shown in vivid color or suggested. If suggested the viewer has the ablity to see it as they wish in their mind and with out being nasty. Even children see it with the knowlege they have aquired in life and go no farther. In reality showing everything is not letting people use their brain but shock brain washing them. A pattern is developing ..........
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