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Offline Lloyd Smale

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canning taters today
« on: January 10, 2012, 09:28:02 AM »
Stopped by the farm i do crop damage shooting at in the fall and the loaded me up with a 150lbs of potatoes. I dont have a good place to store them so fired up the canner. Got the first 50lbs done today. My wifes shaking her head as i allready have about 200lbs canned from last year.
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Re: canning taters today
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2012, 01:16:46 PM »
you know folks do dehydrate potatos.

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Re: canning taters today
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 04:06:11 PM »
Nice!  I canned up a bunch of pinto beans and some mixed beans last weekend.  I had some smoked hog jowls so I used them in some of the beans.  Not near as much flavor as I had hoped.
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Re: canning taters today
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 04:18:33 PM »
Teach me something.  I can purchase potatoes year around.  I can several hundred pounds of yellowfin tuna that is seasonal.  When I consider the propane, jar, lid, and labor, I have over a $1 per pint in every jar I can, not counting the cost of the tuna (about $6 per pint). 
Do you save much by canning potato?  Maybe you are getting your potato for free.  Savings seem marginal to me.

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Re: canning taters today
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 04:29:00 PM »
I think having a bunch canned for preparedness is good.  Dried is good also.  Dehydrator and vacuum bagged would last a long time and give better texture for baked items IMO.  ;)  Nice if you get em free anyway.  ;)
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Re: canning taters today
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 02:01:07 AM »
I can get all i want for free. I do crop damage shooting for a large potatoe farm and i can back my truck up and load it with 50lb bags if i want. As to labor im retired and have lots of time. I acutally enjoy doing it. I wait till around the first of the year and go to walmart. they usually have a close out sale on canning jars for half price. bottom line is canning potatoes probably isnt going to save you money. I tried to keep about a 100 quarts of them on the shelf though for if tough times ever hit. To be honest ive tried about everything and they arent as good eating as fresh potatoes. There handy though. Since there allready cooked you can throw a jar in the frying pan on high brown them and there ready to eat. Add a can of venison and a can of cream of mushroom soup and you have a great meal in about 5 minutes.
Teach me something.  I can purchase potatoes year around.  I can several hundred pounds of yellowfin tuna that is seasonal.  When I consider the propane, jar, lid, and labor, I have over a $1 per pint in every jar I can, not counting the cost of the tuna (about $6 per pint). 
Do you save much by canning potato?  Maybe you are getting your potato for free.  Savings seem marginal to me.
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Re: canning taters today
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 08:21:15 AM »
That is a good idea Lloyd.  I have bought canned taters from the grocery.  Whole and diced.  While they don't taste like "fresh" they do work well for stews, soups etc.  We've also fried them up, when in a hurry, with eggs and bread. I wonder cost wise (for those of us who don't get them free) if one might be further ahead to just buy em in the store? 
 
How long do yours hold up?  Do they discolor?
 
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Re: canning taters today
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 08:32:43 AM »
Wife wonts to know how You can taters. Years ago She tried and got a mushy mess.
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Re: canning taters today
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 08:58:16 AM »
I peel them keeping them in water till ready. The put them in a pot and bring to a boil for about 3 minutes. Drain the water. Put a tea spoon of salt in each jar. I like to add a half an onion to each jar fill with potatoes to the top. then add hot water to each jar leaving about an inch of headspace. Seal the jars and put in your pressure cooker. Bring it up to about 10-12lbs and with quarts i do about 40 minutes. I like them not quite completely cooked so i can fry them and finish. If you are going to use them for mashed potatoes cook for about 70 minutes. Let the cooker come down to zero on its own when you reach your time. When its on zero take them out to cool and check to make sure there sealed and your done. I should add i slice them about the same way i slice potatoes to fry. If you have baby potatoes you can can them as is skins and all.
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Re: canning taters today
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2012, 11:18:27 AM »
In the middle of January when all you have seen is snow for the last two months, Canned Spuds tastes better than any other way of keeping spuds.
That powdered instant stuff is only good for making paper paste and the ones in the root cellar have lost that fresh dug tang to them.
Dehydrated should work well may have to do up a dehydrater full of spuds.  We have done carrots and onions a lot and man they are tasty.
 
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Re: canning taters today
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2012, 05:34:39 AM »
 
 
   Potatoes?  Sorry.  I don't eat them.
 
   Why?  Here's a little formula to remember:
 
                  Potatoes = Obesity + Diabetes.
 
    The same formula holds true for white bread, pizza, spaghetti and ice cream.
 
   If the overall goal is survival, then you have to consider that there is about a 1,000 times greater risk of dying of obesity diseases (diabetes and coronary failure), than of "starving to death after a collapse of society."
 
   Think beans, beans, beans!  :-)
 
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Re: canning taters today
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2012, 05:50:40 AM »

 
   Potatoes?  Sorry.  I don't eat them.
 
   Why?  Here's a little formula to remember:
 
                  Potatoes = Obesity + Diabetes.
 
    The same formula holds true for white bread, pizza, spaghetti and ice cream.
 
   If the overall goal is survival, then you have to consider that there is about a 1,000 times greater risk of dying of obesity diseases (diabetes and coronary failure), than of "starving to death after a collapse of society."
 
   Think beans, beans, beans!  :-)
 
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  My better half who is an RN-CDE (CDE = certified diabetes educator) would beg to differ with you!  It's all about portion control, not the potato, just like with all foods.  Nothing wrong with eating potatoes at all...
 
  As for canning pots., i wash them in my washing machine right after they come out of the ground.
 

 
  That way i don't have to peel them.  Then i run them through my french fry cutter, pack them in clean/hot qts., add boiling water/lids/rings and pressure can them.
 

 
  It goes VERY fast, is easy, and to me, cooked right, they taste great.
 
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2012, 11:21:20 AM »
DM,
 
    I totally agree with you.  It's all about portion control.  Unfortunately, as your wife will tell you, 98% of Americans are simply incapable of controlling their portions in any respect.  They aren't eating a small portion of potatoes. They're eating a really big one, and putting margarine or butter on top.  Folks that fry them ain't frying them in olive oil or grape seed oil, but in god knows what.  Consequently, we are the laughing stock of the world as far as weight is concerned and diabetes is reaching epidemic porportions.
 
    And worse than that.  Lots of people treat potatoes as a staple, like bread, instead of a very high starch tuber that should be eaten with restraint.
 
  So, I will amend my comment to be more fair.  Potatoes are good if eaten in small portions, on an occasional basis, with no butter or margarine on them, and garnished with a little bit of olive oil or grape seed oil.  With this in mind, I think it would be great to can some every year.
 
   You won't be able to practice self-sustaining living if you have to go buy insulin and heart pills every week because of a high white-carb-starch diet.
 
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Re: canning taters today
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2012, 11:40:27 AM »
Hey Manny,
 
How about posting some stuff on beans on the recipe forum.  I am one who needs to do some changing as 75 percent of my diet is potatoes, bread and pasta.  I won't ever give them up but I would be interested in making some changes as I have need.
 
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2012, 12:40:55 AM »
I beg to differ. The irish lived on potatoes. In the depression many americans lived on just about a pure potato diet. They at the same time also helped the country get through prohibition  :P  Also in reguards to beens. They are no doubt a more perfect food source but do you know why beans and rice is said to be so good for you. Because beens provide more protien but rice gives you the carbs you NEED to give your body energy to do work. Potatoes and beans would do the same thing. Now im not saying you should go out and live on potatoes but you also cant live on a pure protien diet. I doubt your ever going to have to worry about getting so fat your unhealthy in a shtf senerio. If anything your not going to be able to find enough calories to keep your energy up to do all the work that people in this country have forgot that it really takes to survive without power gas and grocery stores.
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2012, 12:42:20 AM »
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Hey Manny,
 
How about posting some stuff on beans on the recipe forum.  I am one who needs to do some changing as 75 percent of my diet is potatoes, bread and pasta.  I won't ever give them up but I would be interested in making some changes as I have need.
 
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2012, 05:15:31 AM »
 
Lloyd,
 
      Yes, of course the Irish lived almost totally on potatoes.  Because they were starving to death and had no other options.
 
     And, even when times were good, did this diet keep them fit and healthy?  No. Their health was horrible, they suffered mass malnutrion, and many of them died like flies.  Read the biography of a child who grew up in Dublin Ireland in the 1930s, called Angela's Ashes.  They survived mainly on potatoes, bread, peas, and tea.  Both the children and adults were disease ridden and miserable, dying very early deaths.  They lost almost all of their teeth, they were riddled with parasites, they were covered with rashes and sores, they suffered from scurvy and rickets, and deaths by heart failure and pnuemonia were rampant.
 
      In a true shtf scenario, where the only other option would be starvation, of course I would eat potatoes too.   Yet, that doesn't make them a healthy staple.
 
      Take a trip through poor Appalachia in America today, and look at the folks who live on lots of of potatoes and corn.   Their health and weight is shockingly bad.  It is third world.
 
      Thanks to all for asking for bean recipes, but I must confess that for almost all beans I cook, I just soak them soft before cooking, cook them really slow with a little salt, and sometimes a scrap or two of very lean ham, and put a small bit of healthy oil on them before eating, such as grapeseed oil.  I am sure that most of you guys could make them taste alot better than I can.
 
      If you have never tried cowpeas (also called purple hulled peas), these are among my very favorite.   Similar to a black eyed pea, but a little less bitter and a little more sweet.
 
      Give up totally white bread, potatoes, pasta, pizza, ice cream and soft drinks (except diet), and butter and bad margerine..    Substitute lots of high protein foods (beans and lean chicken), plus whole wheat bread, plus olive oil, grapeseed oil or a healthy blend margarine, plus your favorite green or yellow vegetables.   Eat oatmeal and Cheerios and other whole grain breakfast foods.  Eat all of this stuff you want!
 
      If you do this, a miracle happens in very short order:   you are not hungry all of the time, you are not sleepy all of the time, the weight comes off at the rate fo 2 to 4 pounds a week and stays off, and you become very mentally alert.
 
     The easiest way for me to go this route was simply to never buy the bad items and never have them in the house.  The battle is won or loss at the grocery store or when you plant your garden. I found that if I ever had them in the house, it was extremely hard to resist eating them.  I weigh the same today as I did 25 years ago.  150 pounds.  You can do it too!
 
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2012, 05:52:03 AM »
 
Hey Lloyd,
 
    I apologize to you.  My prior reply was way too preachy and self-rightous.
 
    I always enjoy your posts and learn alot from them.  (I'm so dumb that I didn't even know it was possible to can potatoes!)
 
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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2012, 07:44:04 AM »
  Then there's lots of folks like my dad.  He has lived on meat and potatoes with lots of bread/butter and other no no's his whole life, and he loves icecream!  We were raised that way, and we grew a LOT of potatoes to eat.  He has NO sugar problems, NO heart/lung problems and did i mention, NO sugar problems.  He's not skinny, but not real fat either.
 
  It's dad's birthday on the 28th of Feb., and he was born in 1913.  You do the math!!
 
  He shot his last buck at age 90 and a couple does since.
 

 
  BTW, i couldn't care less if the other countries laugh at us, if history repeats itself, most of them will once again begging with their hands out for something?
 
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2012, 09:15:36 AM »
Id bet my last meal of meat and potatoes will be my last meal. Pretty good chance anyway. Hell id rather be covered in dirt that have to give up foods like these and pizza, ice cream ect. to eat tasteless beens veggys and cherios! Surely though manyrock dont worry about lecturing me. Im the last one you have to feel bad about hurting his feelings. Ive got big shoulders and know dam well that im wrong as often as right!!! ;D
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2012, 09:19:29 AM »
 ;) My old man is about the same. Griew up eating meat and potatoes. He tells the story of his mother packing lard sandwichs for school because thats all they could afford and eating salt pork and potatoes at least 4 times a week. Hes 87 now and i sure hope im still getting around like him when im that age. i think more yuppies in this country die early from worrying about what there putting in there bodys them most of us who stuff about anything in them. venison, potatoe and cheese casorole for supper tonight. Have to go as my mouth is watering. Enjoy the cherios!!! ;) ;)
  Then there's lots of folks like my dad.  He has lived on meat and potatoes with lots of bread/butter and other no no's his whole life, and he loves icecream!  We were raised that way, and we grew a LOT of potatoes to eat.  He has NO sugar problems, NO heart/lung problems and did i mention, NO sugar problems.  He's not skinny, but not real fat either.
 
  It's dad's birthday on the 28th of Feb., and he was born in 1913.  You do the math!!
 
  He shot his last buck at age 90 and a couple does since.
 

 
  BTW, i couldn't care less if the other countries laugh at us, if history repeats itself, most of them will once again begging with their hands out for something?
 
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2012, 09:41:36 AM »
I read an old annual report written by a refuge manager during the depression. The refuge had a CCC crew working on the refuge at the time. He wrote that he felt sorry for the kids who rode 40 miles in the back of a truck in below zero weather to get to work and all they had for lunch was frozen potato sandwiches.

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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2012, 02:10:30 PM »
  It's dad's birthday on the 28th of Feb., and he was born in 1913.  You do the math!!

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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2012, 04:48:26 PM »
Yep, my grand dad turned 91 in November.  He still drives and gets around well.  Even survived a bout of Colon cancer back in the 70's, so he only has about 1' of colon, cause all they did back then was cut it out.   :-\   Pretty amazing guy with a lotta stories I love to hear.  ;)
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