An interesting read - controlling guns controlling people

[guzzijohn]

http://reason.com/archives/2011/12/21/controlling-guns-controlling-people


No comment, just thought it was an interesting read.
GuzziJohn

[powderman]

Yes it is interesting and you knowing this makes me even more confused why you support the anti gun anti 2nd dems you are so proud of. POWDERMAN. 

[guzzijohn]

Quote from Powderman:
"Yes it is interesting and you knowing this makes me even more confused why you support the anti gun anti 2nd dems you are so proud of. POWDERMAN. "


Maybe because I am more than a one or two issue type of person.
GuzziJohn

[magooch]

Since all other issues are in one way, or another subordinate to the rights provided by the Second Amendment, one must examine his priorities, or so it seems to me.

[powderman]

Maybe because I am more than a one or two issue type of person.
GuzziJohn
 
 
YES, you are, you also support homosexuality and killing babies, but turn your back on the 2nd. Without the 2nd amend and having the right to hunt, shoot, protect our homes and family we are as good as dead. Do you hunt or shoot, even actually own a gun?? POWDERMAN. 

[guzzijohn]

Quote from Powderman:
"YES, you are, you also support homosexuality and killing babies, but turn your back on the 2nd. Without the 2nd amend and having the right to hunt, shoot, protect our homes and family we are as good as dead. Do you hunt or shoot, even actually own a gun?? POWDERMAN."


My last response unless you get back on topic. I have in the past clearly explained my positions on homosexuality and as you put it "the killing if babies and it is not as you describe it above, enough said on that. In what way have I turned my back on the 2nd? At this time anyway Obama not done one thing to restrict the 2nd, less than what Bush and Reagan did. Just for you here is my list if firearms that I currently own:
Custom Winchester Highwall in .219DW
Savage bolt in .243
Remington 742 in 30-06
Handi in .243
Single shot Springfield in .22 rimfire
Marlin 39A
Remington Model 34 in .22 rimfire
Remington 870 16ga.
Uberti SA in 45 Colt
S&W Model 36 in .38 special
Ruger Blackhawk in .357 mag
Ruger Mark II Target with 5.5 bull barrel
Makorav 9X18 Bulgarian
Two Benjamin .22 air rifles
Crossman .17 pistol


Would I even know of most of the above if I was not a firearm enthusiast?
GuzziJohn
 

[powderman]

guzzi.  I assume your 219dw is the donaldson wasp?? I always like the 219 zipper. Yes, I'm impressed but still don't see how you can support theparty of gun grabbers like obama, pelosi, reid, schumer, clinton, etc. Do you HONESTLY belierve that these low lifes and the dem party wants to protect your right to keep and bear arms?? Be honest now. POWDERMAN. 

[BUGEYE]

I read somewhere that obama told sarah brady and others that he would help them "under the radar"
if reelected, he will go all-out to rid you of your guns because he'll have nothing to lose.

[Avyctes]

At this time anyway Obama not done one thing to restrict the 2nd

I agree that he hasn't been as active in this area as I feared he would.

But, he would have almost certainly killed any chance for a second term had he been as active against firearms as we all know he would like to be.

If you examine his comments and his actions prior to becoming president, I think you will agree that he is no friend to gun owners.  He is in agreement with the Clintons on banning semi-autos (and not just so-called assault rifles - but all semi-autos), he endorses gun bans in cities that leave innocents at the mercy of thugs.  I could go on, but I think that is adequate for this purpose.

Now, if he were to get a second term, do you think he will hold back?  Absolutely not.  He will use his executive order to by pass congress (and it wouldn't be the first time he's by passed congress) and pass laws that you'd of never thought possible in this country.   I believe he would attempt to pass the UN Small Arms Treaty in a heartbeat and I'm sure you know what that is by now.  Hillary is all for it so you know it's bad for us gun guys.  Thanks to her that hundreds of thousands of M1 Rifles and Carbines couldn't be brought into the country, rifles which rightfully belong in the hands of American shooters and collectors.  I say rightfully because American tax dollars paid for them, American minds conceived them, and American hands used them to find the greatest war this world ever saw.  They need to come home.  And they never will as long as Obama sits at the helm.

If Hillary gets in it will be just as bad for gun owners as Obama.