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Barrel measurment ???
« on: January 16, 2012, 05:39:15 AM »
How would you go about measureing the barrel length of a crack barrel shotgun? Basically to get an exact measurement to indicate legallity lol! I ask because I picked one up that had been cut down to 18in. When I say 18in., it is litterally 18in!!!! I know 18 is legal, but I want to be sure about the measurement in this case.
 
Also, I would like to find out if I can change the barrel on this thing, and if so, can it be a pistol cal. barrel? .357 for example?
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Re: Barrel measurment ???
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 06:12:50 AM »
We'd need to know what it is first since you didn't mention it before barrel swapping is done!  ???  I think shotgun barrels are measured from the breech face to the muzzle.

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Re: Barrel measurment ???
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 07:19:05 AM »
Ahh, you got me there! :o
 
It is either a Pardner or a topper. It has been a while since I have picked it up. I will have to check on that.
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Re: Barrel measurment ???
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 07:59:56 AM »
Two common ways are close the action, insert cleaning rod to bottom out on breech face and mark it at the muzzle end where it exits the barrel, remove and measure. Second way for a break open action is to just measure the barrel from breech end to muzzle end. It is always a good thing to do to leave a little extra for the Gov't. An extra 1/16" to 1/8" to the finished barrel is a comfort to me. Just to make up for any differnece in measuring instruments or methods....<><.... :)
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Re: Barrel measurment ???
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 08:51:29 AM »
That is pretty much how I thought it was done. I wanted to double check because when you measure it (eigher method) you come up with 18" on the money! No room to play, but there is no denying that it is 18". Still makes me nervous. lol
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Re: Barrel measurment ???
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 11:19:17 AM »
Look at it this way, if you use it to commit a crime they will proably charge you with a short barrel. If you never do anything wrong with it and don't draw attention to yourself you are most likely OK....<><.... :)
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Re: Barrel measurment ???
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 11:32:13 AM »
 
 
  Hello evidrine:
  Just a suggestion, if it worries you, you can have the bbl. peened and probably get a1/16 or 1/8 inch more to the overall length. It may make you feel better about it. Just a thought.
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Re: Barrel measurment ???
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 11:40:58 AM »
Quote from: MSP Ret on January 16, 2012, 07:59:56 AM
Two common ways are close the action, insert cleaning rod to bottom out on breech face and mark it at the muzzle end where it exits the barrel, remove and measure. Second way for a break open action is to just measure the barrel from breech end to muzzle end. It is always a good thing to do to leave a little extra for the Gov't. An extra 1/16" to 1/8" to the finished barrel is a comfort to me. Just to make up for any differnece in measureing instrements or methods....<><.... :)

Exactly correct, This is where some confusion is.. some say 16.5 for a rifled barrel and 18.5 for a smooth bore. Well that extra .5 IS for FUDGE FACTOR!! The "law" states 16" for a rifled barrel and 18" for a smooth bore... :Little more is better ;)
 
Personally I would do one of two things:
1) Weld a extension of some kind to the end of the barrel. (Must be perminant to be legal)
2) Destroy it
 
CW
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Re: Barrel measurment ???
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2012, 11:42:25 AM »
Quote from: cwlongshot on January 16, 2012, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: MSP Ret on January 16, 2012, 07:59:56 AM
Two common ways are close the action, insert cleaning rod to bottom out on breech face and mark it at the muzzle end where it exits the barrel, remove and measure. Second way for a break open action is to just measure the barrel from breech end to muzzle end. It is always a good thing to do to leave a little extra for the Gov't. An extra 1/16" to 1/8" to the finished barrel is a comfort to me. Just to make up for any differnece in measureing instrements or methods....<><.... :)

Exactly correct, This is where some confusion is.. some say 16.5 for a rifled barrel and 18.5 for a smooth bore. Well that extra .5 IS for FUDGE FACTOR!! The "law" states 16" for a rifled barrel and 18" for a smooth bore... :Little more is better ;)
 
Personally I would do one of two things:
1) Weld a extension of some kind to the end of the barrel. (Must be perminant to be legal)
2) Destroy it
 
CW

3) Use it for a stub project.  ;)
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Re: Barrel measurment ???
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2012, 11:46:29 AM »
I have been thinking that maybe having it fitted with a polychoke. Not sure if this would help, but is sure couldnt hurt.
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Re: Barrel measurment ???
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2012, 11:54:21 AM »
Quote from: quickdtoo on January 16, 2012, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: cwlongshot on January 16, 2012, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: MSP Ret on January 16, 2012, 07:59:56 AM
Two common ways are close the action, insert cleaning rod to bottom out on breech face and mark it at the muzzle end where it exits the barrel, remove and measure. Second way for a break open action is to just measure the barrel from breech end to muzzle end. It is always a good thing to do to leave a little extra for the Gov't. An extra 1/16" to 1/8" to the finished barrel is a comfort to me. Just to make up for any differnece in measureing instrements or methods....<><.... :)

Exactly correct, This is where some confusion is.. some say 16.5 for a rifled barrel and 18.5 for a smooth bore. Well that extra .5 IS for FUDGE FACTOR!! The "law" states 16" for a rifled barrel and 18" for a smooth bore... :Little more is better ;)
 
Personally I would do one of two things:
1) Weld a extension of some kind to the end of the barrel. (Must be perminant to be legal)
2) Destroy it
 
CW

3) Use it for a stub project.  ;)

GOOD ONE!!  Yes of coarse!  :-[ :-[ :-[
 
LOL
 
CW
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