Author Topic: Gingrich wanted open marriage. (Read 4781 times)

scootrd · « **Reply #30 on:** January 20, 2012, 02:23:06 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on January 20, 2012, 01:39:33 AM

I see some are jumping up just as John King did last night. Not asking any real questions but making an accusation with a question. John King got just what anybody who wants to take for gospel truth, the accusations of a bitter ex-wife should get !
There are 2 sides to any story, and it appears that those closest to Newt and his ex-wife are backing Newt's side. Man, I would hate to be an innocent party and have some of you guys for a jury. I could be the straightest cop who ever lived and you would take a crack dealers word that I had roughed him up !
In a typical, he said /she said like this, real men only deal with known facts and perponderance of evidence !
Now we know how OJ and Casey Anthony got away with it !

I take no issue with what you are conveying , however for me, as I said the issue is larger than just a fidelity issue -

This is a man who pursued the Impeachment of a President for his Affair all the while he was having one of his own.
To chastise another for the same acts you are committing while seeking the same level of office demonstrates to me
deeper character flaws and highest level of Hypocrisy. I personally believe he is not a man to be trusted .

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #31 on:** January 20, 2012, 02:24:48 AM »

any man who wants to deal with more than one woman ................

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #32 on:** January 20, 2012, 02:55:49 AM »

The impeachment of Clinton WAS NOT about the affair. It was about Clinton LIEING under OATH. That is purgery, and is illegal. Gingrich ADMITTED to his mistakes, and says he asked God for forgiveness. Bill Clinton DENIED it, and never ADMITTED he did anything wrong. BIG difference. Do I agree with Gingrich on everything, NO and I am voting for Ron Paul, BUT I will vote for Gingrich OVER Obama. Any one of the remaining 4 would be MUCH better than Obama. Obama is a socialist. The first thing he did when he got in offices was to reward his cronies who contributed to his campaign and push a health care bill that NOONE wanted. The first thing he should have done was deal with the jobs situation to jump start the economy by getting the government out of the way and NO bailouts for the banks, and corporations going bankrupt. The Federal Reserve is the biggest problem with the economy and too much government control and manipulation. Each party is guilty of manipulating the economy through tax breaks and writeoffs, raising and lowering taxes, trying to make it go in one direction or another, but Obama has been the WORST EVER.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #33 on:** January 20, 2012, 04:44:27 AM »

So you say God may forgive but Rome might not ?

DDZ · « **Reply #34 on:** January 20, 2012, 10:21:22 AM »

Quote from: BUGEYE on January 20, 2012, 01:23:32 AM

Quote from: DDZ on January 19, 2012, 11:34:56 AM
Newt is not getting my vote, and it ain't because of a divorce. Speaking of ones character, I agree fully that ones character is very important when it comes to voting for someone, and I see Ron Paul as having the best character of the lot. In my opinion, by a long shot.
but, in last nights debate, santorum said RP only had a 50% rating on abortion votes and RP didn't have an answer.

I understand your concern on abortion bugeye. I also would never vote for someone that believes in killing unborn babies. I would caution you against believing everything Santorum says. Santorum is good at lying, and I believe he will say anything if he thinks it will get him votes. Its the reason I don't think he has good character either. Santorum is portraying himself to be a conservative, and from things he has done in the past indicates he is not. Him being the conservative that he says he is, is a lie in its self.
Paul says that if we abide by the Constitution the Federal government has no right to legalize or ban abortion. It is up to individual states, and he is exactly right. Paul believes in the right to life, and believes that life begins at conception. Here is a link that has Paul's stance on abortion.

http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/abortion/

Swampman · « **Reply #35 on:** January 20, 2012, 12:54:29 PM »

You can't kill an unborn baby because there's no such thing. You believe in small government, but you want morality regulated. Go figure.

clum sum · « **Reply #36 on:** January 20, 2012, 01:04:58 PM »

If Newt wins the GOP nomanation I will vote for Obama ,Gingrinch has changed his mind, his wifes and his religion more times than can be trusted by anyone who can think for themself"s. Besides the person looks like a child molester.

ironglow · « **Reply #37 on:** January 20, 2012, 01:45:34 PM »

Quote from: clum sum on January 20, 2012, 01:04:58 PM

If Newt wins the GOP nomanation I will vote for Obama ,Gingrinch has changed his mind, his wifes and his religion more times than can be trusted by anyone who can think for themself"s. Besides the person looks like a child molester.

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let's face it...you will be voting for Obama, in ANY case !
Nobody with an grain of conservatism in them, could ever utter those words.."I will vote for Obama" !

DDZ · « **Reply #38 on:** January 20, 2012, 01:48:40 PM »

Quote from: Swampman on January 20, 2012, 12:54:29 PM

You can't kill an unborn baby because there's no such thing. You believe in small government, but you want morality regulated. Go figure.

You are pretty much alone in that belief swampman, so I'm not arguing that point with you. On the other point about me wanting morality regulated. You are wrong there also. Where in my post did I indicate that I expect government to regulate morality? Or did you just dream it up to pick an argument?
In the Declaration it states that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of the law, and the 14th Amendment reiterates that. Since I believe that an unborn child is very much alive, and according to our Constitution, and God given rights, we shouldn't be killing them. Is that wanting morality regulated? If it is regulating morality, then so be it, because I know that God does not want us killing his children.

ironglow · « **Reply #39 on:** January 20, 2012, 01:59:29 PM »

Swampy says;
" You believe in small government, but you want morality regulated. Go figure. ::)

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Gotta disagree here Swampy;
I think the vast bulk of GBO members want smaller government... But there isn't anything wrong with the govenment outlawing all murder. It is a constitutional position, since our constitution says each person has a right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"..
It's very elementary; If you kill anyone ..baby through aged adult, you are robbing them of .. their life, their liberty and their pursuit of happiness.

powderman · « **Reply #40 on:** January 20, 2012, 02:13:15 PM »

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Nobody with an grain of conservatism in them, could ever utter those words.."I will vote for Obama" !

IG, very true Sir.
Clum Sum. Yes, gingrich is a flip flopper. Imam obama has not changed, his goal was, is, always will be, the destruction of the United States of America.
DDZ. Agreed Sir. Good post. POWDERMAN.

Swampman · « **Reply #41 on:** January 20, 2012, 02:16:44 PM »

Quote from: ironglow on January 20, 2012, 01:59:29 PM

If you kill anyone ..baby through aged adult, you are robbing them of .. their life, their liberty and their pursuit of happiness.

I agree but abortion doesn't meet that definition and cannot. I believe in small government. I don't support regulating morality.

clum sum · « **Reply #42 on:** January 20, 2012, 02:20:25 PM »

Dear I.G. OB is a better vote than NG. Right now the best the U.S. can do is Romney and I vote as my brain and hart tells me to, not a party or TV adds. I am a reg Dem I regestered to vote in 1968 by mail while in the Air Force stationed in Ak. At that time there was no other choice than a Dem primary in My part of Fl since then I have voted for Rep . Dem. and Independets. A person who will screw around on his or her mate will lie to anyone to get a vote AKA Prez Clinton.

ironglow · « **Reply #43 on:** January 20, 2012, 02:28:57 PM »

Quote from: clum sum on January 20, 2012, 02:20:25 PM

Dear I.G. OB is a better vote than NG. Right now the best the U.S. can do is Romney and I vote as my brain and hart tells me to, not a party or TV adds. I am a reg Dem I regestered to vote in 1968 by mail while in the Air Force stationed in Ak. At that time there was no other choice than a Dem primary in My part of Fl since then I have voted for Rep . Dem. and Independets. A person who will screw around on his or her mate will lie to anyone to get a vote AKA Prez Clinton.

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You didn't vote for Kerry when he ran against Bush then, correct ?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1921662/posts
http://www.mwilliams.info/archive/2005/10/repost-john-kerrys-divorce.php

....And what did you think about Monica's stained dress ?
...And John Edwards...what did you think of him..
...Never mind, suspicions confirmed... an Obamanite..
Of course Obama is a better vote than NG...better than Romney, Santorum and Paul too.. there's no hope for Obamanites

clum sum · « **Reply #44 on:** January 20, 2012, 02:43:31 PM »

Voted for both Pres. Bushs, only history will tell if I did right. I wrote to Jeb when gov of Fla. and told him I wouldn't vote for him if he ran for dog catcher. That man was the most politcal pander I ever saw, a good friend was St Rep. at the time and I told him that if he voted with Jeb on the woman on life support I would not vote for him again. And I didn't.

Sourdough · « **Reply #45 on:** January 20, 2012, 02:51:53 PM »

Newt was married to Jackie Battley in 1962. Jackie found out Newt was having an affair with Maryann and they got divorced in 1980. Newt married Maryann Ginther in 1981. Then Maryann found Newt was having an affair with Callistia Bisek in 1999, they got divorced. Newt married Callista in 1980.

Well what did Maryann expect.

Swampman · « **Reply #46 on:** January 20, 2012, 03:09:05 PM »

[embed=425,349]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YAUcFclcrE[/embed]

ironglow · « **Reply #47 on:** January 20, 2012, 03:11:08 PM »

Quote from: clum sum on January 20, 2012, 02:43:31 PM

Voted for both Pres. Bushs, only history will tell if I did right. I wrote to Jeb when gov of Fla. and told him I wouldn't vote for him if he ran for dog catcher. That man was the most politcal pander I ever saw, a good friend was St Rep. at the time and I told him that if he voted with Jeb on the woman on life support I would not vote for him again. And I didn't.

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Terri Schiavo...an interesting case.. I can understand the people who fought, screamed and demanded that she live, simply because we usually don't enjoy seeing any innocent person die.
..But I I find it more trying to understand why so many people fought, screamed and demanded that she be killed..why ?
It did take them 13 days without food or water, to finally die... http://www.aish.com/ci/s/48910707.html

Since I am having truly difficult time understanding, will you help me ?
Why in God's name, were so many people so very eager.... to see Terri Schiavo die ?

Swampman · « **Reply #48 on:** January 20, 2012, 03:26:28 PM »

[embed=425,349]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRPuKKNJrU0[/embed]

Swampman · « **Reply #49 on:** January 20, 2012, 03:30:57 PM »

Quote from: ironglow on January 20, 2012, 03:11:08 PM

Since I am having truly difficult time understanding, will you help me ?
Why in God's name, were so many people so very eager.... to see Terri Schiavo die ?

Her quality of life was horrible.

http://www.folsomvillage.com/WorldArchives/PicturesOfTerrySchiavo.shtm

scootrd · « **Reply #50 on:** January 20, 2012, 03:33:10 PM »

I watched the debate Swampan,
Rather than address the reported allegation , he dodged and attacked the media.
He never cleared up anything. The man has huge hypocrisy issues.
This guy is suppose to be part of the "family values" Party.

I think he is more of the Do as I say not as I do candidate.

Swampman · « **Reply #51 on:** January 20, 2012, 03:34:58 PM »

He said it was all a lie. That sounds like he addressed it to me.

clum sum · « **Reply #52 on:** January 20, 2012, 03:35:54 PM »

The woman had been dead for years, the body just wouldn't die becouse of science. And this from a person who watched a good friend lay in a bed four years before God overcame science. Before He couldn't talk anymore He asked me for a pistol more than one time. I wish now I had given him one.

ironglow · « **Reply #53 on:** January 20, 2012, 04:11:08 PM »

Sorry, many close to the scene said she was improving...she was not "brain dead" as the Kevorkians, Planned Parenthooders and women's libbers proclaimed. http://libertytothecaptives.net/terri_schiavo_cognitively_able.html
If there is any doubt...opt for life..

See; there you go, making judgement upon unsubstantiated, or highly disputed testimony..just as you are doing in the NG case

andy1300 · « **Reply #54 on:** January 21, 2012, 04:48:21 AM »

We all know the the Republicans say they are for family values is not true, what they really stand for is what I can do for me and only me, not others or familys.

powderman · « **Reply #55 on:** January 21, 2012, 04:55:11 AM »

Quote from: andy1300 on January 21, 2012, 04:48:21 AM

We all know the the Republicans say they are for family values is not true, what they really stand for is what I can do for me and only me, not others or familys.

andy. Right, thats why we oppose murdering babies and homosexual marriage, those are family values that you libs and dems do not have and seem to fear. POWDERMAN.

Swampman · « **Reply #56 on:** January 21, 2012, 05:04:14 AM »

Quote from: andy1300 on January 21, 2012, 04:48:21 AM

We all know the the Republicans say they are for family values is not true, what they really stand for is what I can do for me and only me, not others or familys.

We don't owe anyone anything, nor do they owe us anything. Work for what you want or do without. The government shouldn't regulate morality.

Nuke41 · « **Reply #57 on:** January 21, 2012, 06:25:25 AM »

Come on, let’s be honest. If this was Obama wanting an open marriage everyone here would go ballistic over it. Character does and should matter in a President, and just because I’d like to see someone other than Obama in the White House I’m not going to give a pass on it to a Republican. Gingrich has enough baggage to soundly indicate that his character is lacking, maybe it’s just all my years in the military, but I demand more out of leaders if they want my support. Gingrich has some good ideas, and might still play an important role in US politics in some other role, but he isn’t someone I could support for the top seat.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #58 on:** January 21, 2012, 07:28:56 AM »

Rick Perry said it best, If you will cheat on your wife, you will cheat anybody...

Cheese

Swampman · « **Reply #59 on:** January 21, 2012, 07:31:03 AM »

According to the Good Book, any married man that's ever lusted after another woman has cheated on his wife. Let he that is without sin cast the first stone.