soros says, collapsing economy to spark street violence.

[powderman]

As the U.S. economy worsens, protests such as those carried out by the Occupy Wall Street movement will turn ugly, breaking down into waves of violent unrest across the nation, says billionaire financier George Soros.

"It will be an excuse for cracking down and using strong-arm tactics to maintain law and order, which, carried to an extreme, could bring about a repressive political system, a society where individual liberty is much more constrained, which would be a break with the tradition of the United States," Soros tells Newsweek.


Read more: George Soros: Collapsing US Economy to Spark Street Violence          Part of obummers plan for martial law ya reckon?? Dunno. POWDERMAN. 

[NWBear]

I could not ever imagine agreeing with Soros on ANYTHING but I agree with this.  We have already seen this started by two different Presidents in the name of "Safety".

[52bagman]

Yup and old George is loving every minute of it, He does admire his handywork.

[TNBilly]

+1 Bagman    He should know what he's ordered.  Sounds pretty boastful!

[bilmac]

He pays enough the kiddies will do what ever he says.

[mcwoodduck]

I think you have the wrong party.
The Democrats/ liberals are the ones that are into control.
GWB made a bad call in creating Homeland security and making the security people in the airport a federal position.
If you look at history and as empires and countires fail peole have rioted.
Look at Greece when they said that they will not be able to fund the pentions, look at the Soviet Union when their economy failed and they had to set up a new system, The first Russian revolution the riots in Germany after WWI that led to the rise of the NAZI party, We can go on and on all the way back to Rome if you want.
But the end result is those that have nothing tend to hold those that have things responsible and pose them against the wall to catch bullets or are rounded up and either imprisoned or quietly killed by the new leaders.
I am not worried about the Occupy loons.  I will be worried when your average Union guys are out of jobs and are rioting because they are not able to draw benefits they have been paying for, wanting the Giovernment to step in and do something and frustrated they can not or will not.
The Occupy group is only going to attract a fringe group that do not understand basic economics and think everything should be free or want to transform the country into ... (startrek, Communism, Anarchy, or the  cazy talk where they are trying to parrot the president and his fundimental transformation of the country but do not understand what that means)
Unfortuantly for the communists everyone that thinks has seen the damage communism does and no sane group will enter into it as a political system unless they think they are going to be the ruling class.  Socialism sounds great till people like Sorros have all of their money stolen from them.  (I have been wondering about the Obama law to register all off shore bank accounts. 
 

[gstewart44]

Do not ever forget what Obama said on the campaign trail in July 2008 -  that we need “a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as our military...
 
There is no secret about what Obama wants to do..... just look at his actions before being elected during his campaign, and his actions and words for the past 3 years..... its just that his intentions and ideas do not get national press coverage.     
 
He will circumvent the law and Congress, the Posse Comitatus Act with his use of the Civilian National Security Force,   basically Brown Shirts doing his bidding.   

[mcwoodduck]

Do not ever forget what Obama said on the campaign trail in July 2008 -  that we need “a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as our military...
 
There is no secret about what Obama wants to do..... just look at his actions before being elected during his campaign, and his actions and words for the past 3 years..... its just that his intentions and ideas do not get national press coverage.     
 
He will circumvent the law and Congress, the Posse Comitatus Act with his use of the Civilian National Security Force,   basically Brown Shirts doing his bidding.

Obama seems to be reading from the Nazi play book in his taking over.
Too many similarities in lifes adn actions not to take notice and scream.
An openly armed Accorn is a scarry thought.  I think you picked the wrong group.  Not the brown shirts that aided in the rise to power of the Nazi party by beating up rival political parties and their members but the SS that were fiercly loyal to one man not the party.

[ironglow]

  It's all Soros plan (IMO) He has engineered the same in Egypt, Libya and Syria..
 
   As far as a "repressive political system"  and a "society where liberty is constrained"...he's already engineered that here by way of buying, paying for and installing Obama..
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   COFFEE HURTS

I was eating lunch on the 20th of February with a friend and her
6-year-old granddaughter. She was pretty animated as she talked about
school and friends and teachers.

As I sipped my coffee, I asked her, "What day is tomorrow?"

She said "It's President's Day!"

She is a smart kid. So, I asked "What does President's Day mean?" 
Waiting for her reply with something about Washington or Lincoln etc.

She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out of the
White House, and if he sees his shadow we have one more year of
unemployment."

You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose.

[mcwoodduck]

This has been going on a long time and I'm sure all the hedge fund operators, not just Soros, have an idea about this, especially since the master plan appears to be Gordon Geckoing the US economy...And approximately 2 million hard core 'gang members' haunt US cities,,,These hard core psychos have been allowed into this country for along time now by both GOPer and DNCer types who willfully ignore US immigration laws...that this is a planned method is in the conspiracy area of crtical review... , but I wouldn't doubt it is planned by TPTB--certainly to be used to further tyranny, theft, and meloirated slavery.....really not a GOP or DNC created problem--look a few stones higher on the pyramid on this one....meanwhile, I see the US-Mexico border war is hot and lots of deaths, beheadings, mutilations, and whatnot----expect more psycho mass media and islamophobia industries to attempt linkage with islamicist and GWOT
In fact, this collapse of civilization was addressed by Anthony Burgess' "Clockwork Orange" several decades ago...also in Orwell's 1984 with Emmanual Goldstein, a fictious created enemy akin to Al CIAduh.
 
..TM7
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Just a little information.
For the Gordon Gekko "Greed is Good!" to work you have to have people willing and able to spend money.  How does collapsing the economy create demand for products?  After all the Price and dividend paid on a stock are based on Profits.  NO PROFITS, NO incomes, no taxes. 
If you owned a stock while you are only paying 15% personal income tax on the Profits you are handed the company already 35% on those same profits.  Total of 46.75%.  Is the Federal Government Greedy in wanting almost half the profits of someone's labor? 
Also look at the life style of Gordon Gekko he spent a lot of money employing a lot of people in his having fun.  Boat builders, Mechanics, marinas, captians, helecopter companies, mechanics, airports, pilots, motor cycle companies, mechanics, grounds keepers, Sports clubs, cleaning companies, restaraunts and their staffs, food producers, Builders, decorators, and we can go on and on with all the people that have jobs because some guy makes a lot of money and wants stuff or wants to show off.  What was wrong with Gordon Gekko was he wanted to win at all costs.  Including cheating.  What I find odd is you are against greed but that is what has produced everything.  From the guy who first domestcated a dog to help him hunt.  It was his greed to feed his family that caused him to do something.  TM7, Clearly you are not seeing your own greed.  You do not have your first job any longer.  You left it for a multitude of reasons, the first being you wanted to make more money.  Greed?  Are you making 10 or more times what you started at an hour / year?   Is that excessive greed?  Should you be looking in the mirror and spewing your contempt for Greed at your self?  Or is it part of the natural human condition?
 
 

[ironglow]

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envy

[mcwoodduck]

Mcwooduck....not about your profit model...money and paper money is transitory just a medium of exchange for convenience. Its about getting all the physical real assets for pennies on the dollar, ripping off existing assets,  and monopolzing production....then you can do what you want.
 
 
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TM7

OK if we have a better tax system that does not punnish but takes a reasonable amount, and a Governemnt that is not restricting building and impeeding others from entering the market.  The seaking of profits bring more people into the market, creating a wider variety of products.  Limiting profits and limiting growth to help out your firends or gain favor by a group only makes it easier for those with the gold to buy up assets.  If you want to get rid of the monopoly you want to open up the market.  After all if you have something to sell and I am the only one that can afford it, I get to set the price.  What you want in your personal life you want in the real world, many people willing and able to buy multiple products and able to move jobs and enter new markets to maximize their potential and earnings.

[mcwoodduck]

TM7,
WOW.
OK our tax system is not fair, it is full of social and cronie engineering.
If you do X and buy this from our friends you get a tax break.  It may not be something you would normally do.  Knowing you are buying this it artifically raises the prices of those goods and more profit is acheived skewing the results and the fair market.
No Company wants to be a Monoploy.  Many want to be the market leader.  Some want a nitch market.  Look at firearms.  Yes Remington is on a buying spree and so is Beretta.  At some point others will enter the market, some like Ruger and FN Herstall are carving out their share.  But let's say One company wins and buys all the other companies.  Prices will rise and someone like you will look at an oppertunity to build a rifle and start a new company yo fill either a product demand or a price point high or low end.
Inorder to have a middle class you need to have the rich to have the rich you need to have the uber rich.
A Billionaire hires some one to run his affairs for Millions a year  in turn they hire people for single millions and for multiple thousands. 
If you systamaticly eliminate the people at the top you are going to eliminate the people in the middle.
The regulations we have are limiting compitition and the taxes are creating false markets.
We should have a tax code that is:
standard deduction of 4X the poverty rate for your filing (single Married, family of four)  and you pay 5% up to 100,000 over the standard deduction.
From 100,001 to 500,000 you pay 7% and from 500,001 to 1 Million you pay 8% and from 1 million and up you pay 9%.
Believe it or not but it will make the economy boom and more total dollars will flow into the federal government.  We could pay off the national debt in 8 years if we froze government spending at the over inflated current levels.
But thatis not what the liberals want to do.  They do not want you to have a higher income, they want more people on food stamps as they then control them.  The Left is all bout equal but they do not tell you that POOR is the only equal they can accomplish for you.
 

[Cuts Crooked]

Anyone else find it interesting that Soros chatters about something that conservatives have been preaching for years and all of a sudden the media acts like he's telling us something we've never heard before?

[52bagman]

x10 Cuts Crooked

[OldSchoolRanger]

Do not ever forget what Obama said on the campaign trail in July 2008 -  that we need “a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as our military...
 
There is no secret about what Obama wants to do..... just look at his actions before being elected during his campaign, and his actions and words for the past 3 years..... its just that his intentions and ideas do not get national press coverage.     
 
He will circumvent the law and Congress, the Posse Comitatus Act with his use of the Civilian National Security Force,   basically Brown Shirts doing his bidding.

Obama seems to be reading from the Nazi play book in his taking over.
Too many similarities in lifes adn actions not to take notice and scream.
An openly armed Accorn is a scarry thought.  I think you picked the wrong group.  Not the brown shirts that aided in the rise to power of the Nazi party by beating up rival political parties and their members but the SS that were fiercly loyal to one man not the party.

mcwoodduck - I see your a man who reads his history.

[ironglow]

From mcwooduck;
 " Obama seems to be reading from the Nazi play book in his taking over.
Too many similarities in lifes adn actions not to take notice and scream.
An openly armed Accorn is a scarry thought.  I think you picked the wrong group.  Not the brown shirts that aided in the rise to power of the Nazi party by beating up rival political parties and their members but the SS that were fiercly loyal to one man not the party."
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    Not an exact parallel mcwooduck..  With Hitler, at least we know where he was born, how he got into school and where his citizenship was...and there is no doubt he was loyal to Germany.  No similarity there..
   The similarity starts with Hitler making Germany into his vision of what an ideal nation should be, along with the brownshirts.  In order for his brownshirts to have easy going the annointed one will have to register or take our guns.  He hasn't tried that yet..... but have you read you latest American Rifleman or American Hunter ? 
     If he gets 4 more years, look for that to be his next move...probably by way of some underhanded move to cripple ammo sales or holding, or perhaps a slick rights curtailment.. "for the environment' or "for the children".

[52bagman]

When everyone is fed up on both sides of the equation and unrest is on the rise all O has to do is "MARTIAL LAW".

[NWBear]

    Not an exact parallel mcwooduck..  With Hitler, at least we where he was born,

Yes, Hitler was born in Austria ... Not Germany

[ironglow]

    Not an exact parallel mcwooduck..  With Hitler, at least we where he was born,

Yes, Hitler was born in Austria ... Not Germany

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   NWBear;
   Correct !  Hitler was born in Austria but flim-flammed his way into the highest office in Germany;
   Many say; the big "O" was born in Kenya but flim-flammed his way into the highest office in the US.
 
     Pleased to see you noticed the similarities..

[BUGEYE]

When everyone is fed up on both sides of the equation and unrest is on the rise all O has to do is "MARTIAL LAW".

And we will twiddle our thumbs and let it happen.
the founding fathers, who were willing to sacrifice their lives for freedom, are spinning in their graves.

[blind ear]

When everyone is fed up on both sides of the equation and unrest is on the rise all O has to do is "MARTIAL LAW".

And we will twiddle our thumbs and let it happen.
the founding fathers, who were willing to sacrifice their lives for freedom, are spinning in their graves.

It is "We the people" against the government that "we" elected. "we" have to elect differently or wait until circumstances deteriorate to the point that the people rebel against thier condition. Electing our Republican front runners will get us there more slowly but reguardless we are getting there.
 
 

[BUGEYE]

When everyone is fed up on both sides of the equation and unrest is on the rise all O has to do is "MARTIAL LAW".

And we will twiddle our thumbs and let it happen.
the founding fathers, who were willing to sacrifice their lives for freedom, are spinning in their graves.

It is "We the people" against the government that "we" elected. "we" have to elect differently or wait until circumstances deteriorate to the point that the people rebel against thier condition. Electing our Republican front runners will get us there more slowly but reguardless we are getting there.

I hope you're right, but, nearly all blacks, most democrats, nearly all gays, nearly all union members, all illegals and all the dead people that the DNC can dig up, will vote for obama.
I'm kinda skeptical that we can beat him.

[NWBear]

    Not an exact parallel mcwooduck..  With Hitler, at least we where he was born,

Yes, Hitler was born in Austria ... Not Germany

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   NWBear;
   Correct !  Hitler was born in Austria but flim-flammed his way into the highest office in Germany;
   Many say; the big "O" was born in Kenya but flim-flammed his way into the highest office in the US.
 
     Pleased to see you noticed the similarities..

No matter what happens I LOVE this forum...


Thanks IG you made me smile today.

[srussell]

When everyone is fed up on both sides of the equation and unrest is on the rise all O has to do is "MARTIAL LAW".

  and that is why he wants (needs) his own security force

[SHOOTALL]

Well if soros said it then what profit is he trying to gain from it ? What advantage is he seeking ?

[mcwoodduck]

When everyone is fed up on both sides of the equation and unrest is on the rise all O has to do is "MARTIAL LAW".

As we have seen with the Occupy movement here in CA the Marshall law will not be applied equally.  The rabble will be allowed to do as they please as long as they ar part of the Democrat big tent - Union, Diversity, Communist, Enviro -Nazi, or other group I have forgotten.
If you have a Tea Party meeting, batons, bullets adn tear gas will be used!

[Pat/Rick]

Well if soros said it then what profit is he trying to gain from it ? What advantage is he seeking ?

 
soros hedges every bet he's ever made, talks out of both sides of his mouth, and wins when he looses. Even king george helped finance both sides of the revolutionary war.

[mcwoodduck]

Well if soros said it then what profit is he trying to gain from it ? What advantage is he seeking ?

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Civil disobediance wiil speed up Bankruptcy of governmnet will lead to giant sell off The People's real assets. The People have already been primed to accept privatization of their assests...   Governmnet watch dogging of predators will be nill.  OWSt movemnet has just begun....and will grow. TPTB will send every derilict in town to infest the OWS for free food and a good time, mass media will poison the waters, too....Tyranny will become normalized as elite prosper more; and as possible  another protracted war is normalized.
 
..TM7

"The People's assets" is very communist term, but you mean like when Bill Clinton sold off the Naval Oil reserves to Al Gores Oils company (Ok not his but he has a controlling interest in the stock) at a lower than market price?
Seems to me that the Liberals are the ones yelling about it and pointing the finger at others to distract what they are doing.   
 

[SHOOTALL]

Good point they don't speak unless its to cover their back side or cause a problem that only they can fix !