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TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — Republican Gov. Chris Christie said Tuesday he'd veto a gay marriage bill advancing in the Legislature and instead wants same-sex unions put to a referendum. Angry Democrats said lawmakers have an obligation to protect civil rights and the issue should not be put off for a public vote.
Christie made his first explicit promise to veto a gay marriage bill during a visit to Bridgewater, just hours before the Democrat-controlled Senate Judiciary Committee forwarded the measure to the full Senate on an 8-4 party-line vote.
"Let the people of New Jersey decide what is right for the state," Christie said.
Christie told a town hall audience that an issue of such magnitude should be decided by residents and shouldn't be treated as "a political football." He said a proposed constitutional amendment should be drafted and put to a referendum, a position he also held when he campaigned for office in 2009.
"Whether or not to redefine hundreds of years of societal and religious traditions should not be decided by 121 people in the Statehouse," he said.
Gay marriage legislation failed in the Senate two years ago and Christie's opposition was known when it was again introduced this month.
Senate President Stephen Sweeney, a Democrat sponsoring the bill, said civil rights issues like the right to marry are guaranteed under the state constitution and do not require a public vote.
"Civil rights is not to be placed on the ballot," Sweeney said during a hearing on his legislation after being informed of Christie's comments.
Sweeney, who didn't vote on the measure the last time around, has said he has since had a change of heart. He said it's time for New Jersey to join six other states and 10 countries that sanction gay marriage.
The first to testify at the hearing ahead of Tuesday's vote, Sweeney said gay couples are being denied basic civil rights under the state's civil union law.
In response to Christie's announcement, State Sen. Raymond Lesniak, another chief sponsor of the proposed new law, said "marriage equality isn't like sports betting."
"It's a civil right which is already guaranteed in our constitution. It's up to the Legislature to guarantee these rights and support marriage equality for same sex couples," he said.
Earlier Tuesday, 127 professors from 48 law schools around the country signed a letter saying New Jersey's civil union law cannot be fixed.
The professors, including former New Jersey Public Advocate Ron Chen, said the law granting gay couples the benefits of marriage without the title will never be equal to the right to marry.
The letter was sent to Christie, a Catholic, and the Legislature.
Christie on Monday nominated an openly gay black man to the state Supreme Court. During a news conference that followed, he said he would look at the gay marriage bill if it gained momentum, though he was unlikely to alter his opposition.
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Yes, good for him. I like him concerning budget issues, his frankness & other things. Too bad he is a typical Northeastern Lib when it comes to gun control.
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I find it hard to give a crap about gay marriage one way or the other with all of the important issues facing this country. We are well on our way towards 3rd world nation status but at least when we get there we either will or will not have gay marriage in the smoldering ruins of what was once a great nation. Shame on both parties for continuing to make gay marriage an issue.
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LAKOTA. Morals and family values are things that all of our leaders should have. THe subject of gay marrige tells me who has them, and who does not. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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It also tells a lot about their intellect!
 
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I agree with Powder.  If they don't have the moral high ground (i.e. Abortion, Gay Rights, etc) then they won't be worth a tinker's dam as far as anything else is concerned.  I still think a person of average intelligence, high moral standards, and good common sense could do a helluva lot better job running this country than all the liberal lawyers have done.  They like to think they're the only ones qualified to run this country.  They mean 'run it into the ground', because that's all any of them have done.
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Since the institute of marriage was created long before immoral men imposed the first government, what does government have to do with marriage anyway?
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Since the institute of marriage was created long before immoral men imposed the first government, what does government have to do with marriage anyway?

I agree... and I have to add that if these jokers have time to introduce and debate bills having to do with gay marriage with everything that is going on today that should take priority over gay marriage then they are either stupid or have too much time on their hands and should all be relieved of their duties.
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All anyone needs to know about homosexuality is what is contained in Leviticus -- it is abomination to lie with mankind as with womankind.   

Gays like to whine that they do not get equal rights.  Horsefeathers!!!  They have always had equal rights under the law.  Marriage is NOT an enumerated right under the United States Constitution, it is a religious rite.   Queers like to claim they are victims, and they need more protection under the law.    They are only victims of their own delusions of persecution.

Governor Christie is right to veto the gay marriage bill.    If homos want to get married, they can go to New York.

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