Author Topic: In - "The Age of Obama"- Do you think your better off now? (Read 1294 times)

OldSchoolRanger · « **on:** January 25, 2012, 06:19:27 AM »

From NY Post - Wed. January 25, 2012 (Metro Edition)
"US price clubbed in Obama tenure"
Consumers have a beef with President Obama when they go to the pump.
The price of a gallon of unleaded gas has jumped 83 percent since he took office, going from $1.79 in January 2009 to $3.28 in December 2011, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics compiled by CNS News.
Meanwhile, Obama's proposed alternative green-energy agenda to reduce the nation's dependence on fossil fuels hasn't taken off.
Gas was the only one of a number of commodities that have shot up.
The cost of a pound of ground beef has soared 24 percent since, Obama became president, from $2.36 to $2.92 last month. And the cost of a pound of bacon surged 22 percent, from $3.73 to $4.55.

Prices surge in Age of Obama
Unleaded gallon of gas - 83% Increase
Jan. 2009: $1.79
Dec. 2011: $3.28

Pound of ground beef - 24% Increase
Jan. 2009: $2.36
Dec. 2011: $2.92

Half-gallon ice cream - 19% Increase
Jan. 2009: $4.44
Dec. 2011: $5.25

One pound of bacon - 22% Increase
Jan. 2009: $3.73
Dec. 2011: $4.55

A half-gallon of ice cream took a bigger bite out of the wallet while increasing the waistline. The price bulged 19 percent from $4.44 to $5.25.
Other prices were flat or saw only a modest price increase.
The price of a gallon of whole milk was $3.59 when Obama took ofice. Last month, it was $3.57 per gallon, a two cent drop.
The average price of a dozen Grade A eggs was just two pennies more, $1.87 last month compared to $1.85 in January 2009.
While gas prices have spiked under the Obama administration, they have yet to hit the 10-year high gas price of $4.09 in July 2008, which occurred on the watch of former President George W. Bush.
- Carl Campanile

In the "Age of Obama", do you think your better off now? Comments?

Dixiejack · « **Reply #1 on:** January 25, 2012, 06:28:53 AM »

Why didn't the idiots in Washington take over the oil supply in Iraq as payback for all the money the government spent on two wars there? So Bush and his oil cronies could keep the price of oil up and line their pockets with the money they stole from the American citizens that they swore to protect.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #2 on:** January 25, 2012, 06:29:47 AM »

No , I work in construction , Remember Obama suggested he wasn't worried about white construction workers havung jobs . At least he was honest !

OldSchoolRanger · « **Reply #3 on:** January 25, 2012, 06:46:22 AM »

Quote from: Dixiejack on January 25, 2012, 06:28:53 AM

Why didn't the idiots in Washington take over the oil supply in Iraq as payback for all the money the government spent on two wars there? So Bush and his oil cronies could keep the price of oil up and line their pockets with the money they stole from the American citizens that they swore to protect.

Dixiejack - I agree, instead of us paying for the war costs. I too wish they would have made Iraq pay for all expenses incurred during the wars with/in Iraq. The same should go for our war in Afghanistan, we should make them reimburse us for our costs with sales of their "rare earth". Sort of like after WW1, call the expenses War reparations.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #4 on:** January 25, 2012, 06:48:51 AM »

I am better off now than three years ago. My net worth has increased at least 50% in the last three years.
GuzziJohn

tobster · « **Reply #5 on:** January 25, 2012, 06:51:59 AM »

I refused to watch him last night and still almost shot my t.v. just watching the short clips on the news. He has Warren Buffet's secretary sitting there for props to continue the lie about her paying more taxes than her boss. He fails to mention he's comparing investment income to earned income. And to top it off I change the channel and find Jesse Jackson has come out of the woodwork and claims the term "food stamp president" is a racial slur even though he admits more white people receive food stamps than blacks. To get back to your point OSR, I think higher gas prices "punish" the poor and middle class way more than the wealthy. What is fair about that? and talk about a drag on the economy. I believe fuel prices are one thing he could actually do something about,unfortunately high fossil fuel prices are part of his green agenda.

spikehorn · « **Reply #6 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:33:44 PM »

Gas will continue to increase dispite who is in office. Remeber when bush was in office it went up to almost $5 a gallon here in the state of New York. The oil companies were testing the waters to where the cut off would be before the people revolted. Now they are sliding them up much more slowely. Just be glad we aren't paying what they do in some european countries.

OldSchoolRanger · « **Reply #7 on:** January 25, 2012, 04:16:45 PM »

Quote from: tobster on January 25, 2012, 06:51:59 AM

I refused to watch him last night and still almost shot my t.v. just watching the short clips on the news. He has Warren Buffet's secretary sitting there for props to continue the lie about her paying more taxes than her boss. He fails to mention he's comparing investment income to earned income. And to top it off I change the channel and find Jesse Jackson has come out of the woodwork and claims the term "food stamp president" is a racial slur even though he admits more white people receive food stamps than blacks. To get back to your point OSR, I think higher gas prices "punish" the poor and middle class way more than the wealthy. What is fair about that? and talk about a drag on the economy. I believe fuel prices are one thing he could actually do something about,unfortunately high fossil fuel prices are part of his green agenda.

Everything is a "racial slur", and everyone that doesn't agree with him is a racist to Rev. Extortionist Jackson, except when it's directed at any folks other than black.

magooch · « **Reply #8 on:** January 26, 2012, 04:24:05 PM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on January 25, 2012, 06:48:51 AM

I am better off now than three years ago. My net worth has increased at least 50% in the last three years.
GuzziJohn

The question is--are you better off? Your net worth might have increased, but was it because of, or in spite of the bamster's efforts? When you subtract your share of the national debt that has been ballooned, do you still feel as flush? Is your future more, or less secure than it was three years ago? Do you really think that the leadership of this country is on the right track?

Cuts Crooked · « **Reply #9 on:** January 26, 2012, 05:38:32 PM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on January 25, 2012, 06:48:51 AM

I am better off now than three years ago. My net worth has increased at least 50% in the last three years.
GuzziJohn

So yer now worth two dollars!

.22 mag. · « **Reply #10 on:** January 26, 2012, 05:55:10 PM »

No we personally are about the same. Not because of him but in spite of him. We work hard, make a little more money now but everything cost more now. I think he is doing his best to sink us but he can't get it done.

saddlebum · « **Reply #11 on:** January 26, 2012, 06:04:13 PM »

Is there any stronger or more negative word than no? If not, I guess I'll settle for no.............
No need to elaborate because it just sounds like self pity if I do.

twoshooter · « **Reply #12 on:** February 13, 2012, 02:32:49 PM »

Mine is somewhat better, not a lot. The credits for home buyers helped my great grandaughter buy a home. Since I have remained employed my retirement has continued to grow, and I am past any possible cuts or changes it the terms of that, so that is good. Interest rates have continued low and probably will for the next couple years, that is good. The republicans could have made some real deals that would have been beneficial to all of us, but they were only interested in posturing. "The most important election in your life",.... give me a break. Truman was president when I arrived, and that line has been used in every election I can remember, which was Eisenhower's re-election, very faintly. Bush started 2 wars and then drug them out ad-infinitum , which we gained nothing from and cost a bundle. If Obama spends a bundle on infrastructure at least I wont be afraid to cross a bridge , and maybe will be able to get on a train that is not total crap one day. At least it will be HERE, NOT in Iraq, and built by American workers, so someone will have a job. My review is mixed. I did not vote for him, he is not as good as many hoped, and not as bad as others feared. It's life.... pay your quarter, take your chances.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #13 on:** February 13, 2012, 05:48:34 PM »

I'm bringing home about the same money, takes a bit more work to do so.

My home value has gone down roughly 35%, mortgage payment unchanged, taxes have dropped about $100 a year and insurance has gone up about $150.

Saturday morning I carried $82 worth of groceries out in my arms, granted it included detergent and "vitamins" , but damn.

Fuel expenditures haven't changed much, I am now a shut in though.

All the above is not as big a deal though, the feeling of impending doom I live with is the deal breaker. The man hates everything I do. From my job to my entertainment, from my beliefs to my hopes and desires I can't get out of this SOB's sights it seems. If I desired to live like the rest of the world I would work hard buy a plane ticket to the rest of the world and stay there. I am perfectly satisfied with Fat, Dumb, and Happy, leave me alone.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #14 on:** February 14, 2012, 03:44:14 AM »

My net worth has increased substantially, much due to the increase in farmland prices and grain prices. I have not been laid off, my wife works part time as is her choice and my step-daughter is in college and working. We are just completing 80K worth of house additions and remodeling without having to take out a loan. I bought a new motorcycle with cash this year. Yea, I am for sure better off and worth more than I was three years ago. Hope you all consider that as an answer that fits the questions now.
GuzziJohn

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #15 on:** February 14, 2012, 03:59:59 AM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on February 14, 2012, 03:44:14 AM

My net worth has increased substantially, much due to the increase in farmland prices and grain prices. I have not been laid off, my wife works part time as is her choice and my step-daughter is in college and working. We are just completing 80K worth of house additions and remodeling without having to take out a loan. I bought a new motorcycle with cash this year. Yea, I am for sure better off and worth more than I was three years ago. Hope you all consider that as an answer that fits the questions now.
GuzziJohn

As good an answer as any Guzzi. My situation is actually not that bad. I have gotten caught up on all outstanding debt, save the house. I'm only feeding one kid now, winter has been so mild as to reduce gas bills to ridiculously low levels. None of the above can be attributed to the current President.

About one more round of The Quantitative Easing ought to just about finish the job of creating hyper inflation. If my paycheck can keep up I'll be in fat city as far as the mortgage goes. Soon to be just me and the wife here at home, daily living expense should stay about the same. As my girls leave home costs haven't really gone down much but thankfully they have stayed very flat, I know that is not the case for most folks.

As Rush has said so many times. "Me? I'm doing fine I just worry about the other folks". Hell, maybe things are actually great and nobody wants to admit to being financially secure and spiritually fulfilled. The impending doom... that is honestly my only fear right this moment.

Lose my job? Well that would be a whole 'nother kettle of fish now wouldn't it.

garbhead · « **Reply #16 on:** February 14, 2012, 05:11:52 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on January 25, 2012, 06:29:47 AM

No , I work in construction , Remember Obama suggested he wasn't worried about white construction workers havung jobs . At least he was honest !

Actually was Robert Reich who made this statement, so I guess you don't actually remember it correctly. My financially decline actually began the summer of 2008...and has steadily gotten worse....Where is the "none-of-the-above" box we can check on the ballot this November?

Alaska Dave · « **Reply #17 on:** February 15, 2012, 12:25:45 PM »

Worse off. Since he got in office the construction industry took a dive. Gas was down but still rising. Food costs more.

Cuts Crooked · « **Reply #18 on:** February 15, 2012, 02:16:28 PM »

Lemme see here, he froze my wages (less than 50K a year for a family of five BTW), moved my job site 50 miles away from where it was,(I lived within walking distance of the old site) engaged in policies that ran the price of fuel up almost twice what it was, along with grocery costs, permitted my share of my health insurance premiums to skyrocket.............uh, sure, I'm better off! Ya know why? Cause I got GBO to come too and complain about him!

saddlebum · « **Reply #19 on:** February 15, 2012, 04:11:11 PM »

Quote from: garbhead on February 14, 2012, 05:11:52 AM

Quote from: SHOOTALL on January 25, 2012, 06:29:47 AM
No , I work in construction , Remember Obama suggested he wasn't worried about white construction workers havung jobs . At least he was honest !
Actually was Robert Reich who made this statement, so I guess you don't actually remember it correctly. My financially decline actually began the summer of 2008...and has steadily gotten worse....Where is the "none-of-the-above" box we can check on the ballot this November?

Or in your case, maybe the question could be re-phrased to include the Democrat controled congress starting in 2007. Good old Bawny Fwank, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi should get some credit for the construction worker's plight. AND, setting the stage for an Obama win in 2008 by blaming it all on Bush.

garbhead · « **Reply #20 on:** February 16, 2012, 03:18:27 AM »

Quote from: saddlebum on February 15, 2012, 04:11:11 PM

Quote from: garbhead on February 14, 2012, 05:11:52 AM
Quote from: SHOOTALL on January 25, 2012, 06:29:47 AM
No , I work in construction , Remember Obama suggested he wasn't worried about white construction workers havung jobs . At least he was honest !
Actually was Robert Reich who made this statement, so I guess you don't actually remember it correctly. My financially decline actually began the summer of 2008...and has steadily gotten worse....Where is the "none-of-the-above" box we can check on the ballot this November?

Or in your case, maybe the question could be re-phrased to include the Democrat controled congress starting in 2007. Good old Bawny Fwank, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi should get some credit for the construction worker's plight. AND, setting the stage for an Obama win in 2008 by blaming it all on Bush.

If "in your case" means me then, my business (construction-related)actually started to decline in 2006..(I suppose that was somehow Obama's fault as well).(I have my books to prove it)....and it amazes me that everyone constantly uses the Fox News talking points of blaming EVERYTHING on Bawny, Reid, and Pelosi....Didn't realize that 3 people could control our entire economy....HAHAHA

magooch · « **Reply #21 on:** February 17, 2012, 03:06:03 AM »

Those three people may not have controlled the entire economy, but they did control what the House, Senate and Banking Committee did and that has an enormous affect on how the economy goes in general. Harry Reid still controls what happens in the Senate and that alone is enough to keep the economy in a shambles. And with the Obamanation's help, just the two of them are doing a great job of ruining not only the economy, but crippling every other aspect of this country.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #22 on:** February 17, 2012, 07:56:04 AM »

I drove down to the woods this morning to do a little shooting.
cost me roughly $17 in gas.
the democrats have forced me to shoot less.

garbhead · « **Reply #23 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:33:15 PM »

Quote from: magooch on February 17, 2012, 03:06:03 AM

Those three people may not have controlled the entire economy, but they did control what the House, Senate and Banking Committee did and that has an enormous affect on how the economy goes in general. Harry Reid still controls what happens in the Senate and that alone is enough to keep the economy in a shambles. And with the Obamanation's help, just the two of them are doing a great job of ruining not only the economy, but crippling every other aspect of this country.

So 3 people didn't control the entire economy, only had an enormous effect on how the economy goes..oh I see....
Now it's only 2 people (Reid and Obama) single-handedly ruined not only the entire economy , but crippled every other thing in the county....

saddlebum · « **Reply #24 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:03:48 AM »

Quote from: garbhead on February 16, 2012, 03:18:27 AM

Quote from: saddlebum on February 15, 2012, 04:11:11 PM
Quote from: garbhead on February 14, 2012, 05:11:52 AM
Quote from: SHOOTALL on January 25, 2012, 06:29:47 AM
No , I work in construction , Remember Obama suggested he wasn't worried about white construction workers havung jobs . At least he was honest !
Actually was Robert Reich who made this statement, so I guess you don't actually remember it correctly. My financially decline actually began the summer of 2008...and has steadily gotten worse....Where is the "none-of-the-above" box we can check on the ballot this November?

Or in your case, maybe the question could be re-phrased to include the Democrat controled congress starting in 2007. Good old Bawny Fwank, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi should get some credit for the construction worker's plight. AND, setting the stage for an Obama win in 2008 by blaming it all on Bush.
If "in your case" means me then, my business (construction-related)actually started to decline in 2006..(I suppose that was somehow Obama's fault as well).(I have my books to prove it)....and it amazes me that everyone constantly uses the Fox News talking points of blaming EVERYTHING on Bawny, Reid, and Pelosi....Didn't realize that 3 people could control our entire economy....HAHAHA

I don't use FOX News talking points for blaming anyone. If your business started tanking in '06, then just maybe you or your local government is to blame. In '06, the construction company I worked for almost couldn't handle all the work we had. That includes housing related, comercial and public works construction. Everything in housing from mass grade to underground to finished streets and sidewalks. We were still building neighborhoods. From a large comercial shopping complex to highway construction and new, replacement city pipelines and utilities. Even a large multi-million dollar ski resort in the Sierras at the same time. We started slowing down a little in '08. More in '09. And flatlined by the end of 2010. So before you start spouting off CNN and MSNBC talking points, maybe you should look at the facts and take a closer look at the players that created the housing bubble and who supported and made excuses for finacial institutions like Freddie and Fannie, Leman Brothers and Countrywide and who manipulated the banking system at the time. I'm not sticking up for Bush. He raised the national debt alot with his wars. But to be realistic, the Dems crashed our economy with their progressive policies. Them and progressive Republicans that thought it was a good idea to compromise with the Dems.

OH, BTW! In case you didn't know, Reid was/is Majority Leader of the Senate. That means he and the Dems CONTROL the Senate. At the time in question, Pelosi was Speaker of the House. That means she and the Dems CONTROLED the House of Representives. So as you can see, it's not just 3 people we are talking about. Since I don't know all the names of every Democrat congressman, I use just the names of their leaders who were so outspoken in their progressive policies. So whats a president to do?

"Now it's only 2 people (Reid and Obama) single-handedly ruined not only the entire economy , but crippled every other thing in the county...."

As to that statement I can only ask you, who is in charge now and for the past 3yrs? Failed stimulus, (yes I know Bush signed off on the first one). Failed green energy policies and loans to the tune of billions of wasted tax dollars. Can you say, Solindra? Shutting down coal mines and coal fired plants. Obamacare. Expensive social justice programs and welfare instead of jobs. High fuel prices due to several reasons including no development of our own resources. Can you say Keystone Pipline? Ridiculous enviromental regulations preventing development, growth and job creation. Over taxing and regulating the job creators and creating the worst enviroment for job creation since the 1930s.
Need I go on?......Because I can if you like..............

garbhead · « **Reply #25 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:50:20 AM »

"Good old Bawny Fwank, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi should get some credit for the construction worker's plight. AND, setting the stage for an Obama win in 2008 by blaming it all on Bush."

Saddlebum , here are your Fox News talking points....I know them by heart, since my father-in-law has spouted them for 3 years now, and Fox News Is the only thing he watches....now show me my MSNBC or CNN talking points.

Senate majority CONTROL now would have to have 60 votes instead of the constitutionally described 51 votes, due to the automatic Republican filibuster.. so who is actually controlling the Senate? The correct answer is "it is out of control". Minority leader Mitch McConnell early on stated that the Republican Party's main goal was to prevent Obama from serving a second term, before they even knew what his performance was to be. Shouldn't the main goal be to serve the American people?

The Republican-controlled house of representatives is clearly 100% against everything that Obama wants to do, no matter what. Being head of a committee is not raw power either.....everything has to be passed by the governing bodies and signed by the President.........look at the number of bills Bush signed compared to Obamas count, because of the gridlock in our congress.

Since your business is declining, maybe Speaker Boehner is to blame? I don't see you bitching about him...Why not? Simple : All Republicans are right and all Democrats are wrong....

saddlebum · « **Reply #26 on:** February 18, 2012, 05:18:12 AM »

"Since your business is declining, maybe Speaker Boehner is to blame? I don't see you bitching about him...Why not? Simple : All Republicans are right and all Democrats are wrong...."

Your getting closer, but it's not hard to imagine why your business was one of the first to see a marked decline in '06, ahead of the rest of us.........Just sayin..............

If you want to know why Speaker Boehner and, "The Republican-controlled house of representatives is clearly 100% against everything that Obama wants to do, no matter what.".
Then I refer you to the last paragraph of my previous post. That SHOULD explain it. If you were paying attention, you would know that it's not just House Republicans voting against Obama's policies. Without the threats and pressure from a Speaker Pelosi, Dems have been more willing to vote their conscience and the will of their constituants. In other words, against Obama.

The fact that your willing to back up the timeline of your decline two years from your original post so as to try and make it sound like it's all someone elses fault instead of your political party of choice, just proves you are the one showing extreme bias. Not me. I gave a negative mention to Bush and progressive Republicans. But your not willing to acknowledge the Dems envolvement in the financial crisis and housing meltdown. So point that finger at yourself for a while. I've got better things to do................

BUGEYE · « **Reply #27 on:** February 18, 2012, 05:37:40 AM »

thanks partly to frank/dodd and the local school board, my house has lost over 50% of its value.
frank/dodd are the biggest culprits. the freddy/fannie debacle was just another democrat give-away scheme.

garbhead · « **Reply #28 on:** February 18, 2012, 03:35:25 PM »

Saddlebum says:
"The fact that your willing to back up the timeline of your decline two years from your original post so as to try and make it sound like it's all someone elses fault instead of your political party of choice, just proves you are the one showing extreme bias".

The 2008 date was a typo, it was actually 2006. I was thinking summer of 2008, to show it could not have been Obama's fault, as he was not even elected yet at this point. I don't blame anyone for what happens to me, just merely trying to show that the ones everyone always blames were not in charge when the troubles began. Business is different in different parts of the county and nothing happens everywhere at the same time or same level of severity.

Saddlebum says
"Not me. I gave a negative mention to Bush and progressive Republicans."

That's really some severe bashing.

Saddlebum says: "But your not willing to acknowledge the Dems envolvement in the financial crisis and housing meltdown. So point that finger at yourself for a while. I've got better things to do..............."

No where did I say that no Democrats were not responsible for this mess. I think they should throw all of them out, along with all the lobbyists and the same time. "They are ALL responsible " was the point I was trying to make.

The main point being that 3 or 4 or 6 or 8 people cannot possibly be responsible for EVERYTHING BAD THAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS COUNTRY. If that few number of people actually have acquired that much power, then the whole system needs to be trashed. I personally don't like Barney Frank, Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi and never have. In 2001 I was behind George Bush 100% in his action against Afghanistan as was the huge majority of this country, Republicans and Democrats alike....It was only when he got sidetracked into Iraq that I disagreed with him.

Anything and everything that involves me I take full responsibility for. I am not pointing fingers at anyone for my misfortune. Peace , Brother

teamnelson · « **Reply #29 on:** February 18, 2012, 03:54:38 PM »

No, and my future isn't looking as bright as it used to because of him as well. Nothing attributable to him or happening under his watch, which is also his responsibility, has increased liberty, created wealth or made America a stronger nation.