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Offline Country Boy

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Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« on: January 28, 2012, 01:55:56 PM »
Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness  whe I realized I am not familiar with the firearms they used. Could anyone tell me what 8)
guns and who used them in the film.
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 03:37:58 PM »
Why not try asking on a movie forum?
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 04:09:56 PM »
In the Movie Col Pattersen used a sporterized Enfield No. 1 action with a 5 round magizine.
Later in the movie he used the Doctors rifle that I believe was a Popular English falling block at the time.  The name excapes me, I think it starts with an F.  I want to say Frazier but it think that is wrong.  It was the rifle that Bill Ruger based his No1 on.
While Col Pattersen was a real person the Hunter Remington was not.  If the book the Man eaters of Tsalvo, Col Pattersen talks about many hunters that came to help deal with the maneaters.
His guns were an English Howda in 16 ga (popular at the time with tiger hunters as a last ditch gun if a tiger got on top of the Asian elephants they hunted from)  The Side by Side is any number of Side by side rifles that are or were popular, in one of the nitro express rounds like 470, 500 or 577 Nitro Express.  It also could be a Bore like 12 or 10 bore side by side rifle.  For that matter it could have been one of the CVA 20ga rifles.  I saw a similar rifle to the one in the movie with a smaller hole not too long ago in 400/450 3" (400 Jefferies) for $15,000.     
Samuel at one point has a standard Side by Side game in 12 ga and can be any of the English or Irish makers. (Purdy, Holland & Holland, Churchill, William Moore...........)  As far as a movie gun it could be Spanish, Italian, or Turkish.
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 01:09:19 PM »
The doctor's rifle was a Martini-Henry .577/450. They were the issue rifle before the Lee Enfields.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini-Henry
mcwoodduck, you may be thinking of the ferguson rifle. It was a breechloading rifle during the Revolutionary war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_rifle
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 02:26:46 PM »
There was another sporting rifle not the Martini -Henry that had a side lever that cocked the gun and it started with an F.  I will dig through a couple copies of Double gun Journal and find the name.  It was a stronger action than the Martini and could fire a more powerful round than the 450/577 or the 577 of  the Zulu wars fame.
The Freguson was a breach loading flint lock rifle that used an auger that sealed the breach and was opened and closed by the trigger guard.  Named after the Col of the English regement  that commanded them.  It ws formed in response to the Kentucky rifles the colonists were using with great effect. 
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 02:40:08 PM »
MC if you pardon my spelling I think what you are looking for is the Farquharson single shot...keith made one of his last wildcats using this action...
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 02:43:47 PM »
Quote from: Wyo. Coyote Hunter on January 29, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
MC if you pardon my spelling I think what you are looking for is the Farquharson single shot...keith made one of his last wildcats using this action...
That's it.  I was trying to spell it too on my first go around and kept thinking of Volquartzen and knew that was wrong.
Thanks.  I will see if I can find a Picture and post it.
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 02:48:51 PM »
If you have keith's HELL, I WAS THERE, there are some nice photos in there....
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2012, 02:50:14 PM »
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 02:53:54 AM »
I forgot about the Farquharson. In the movie when Patterson tried to shoot one lion with the doc's rifle, the rifle used to show the misfire (cocking lever moving) was a Martini-Henry. They may have used more than one rifle in the movie.
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 01:05:20 PM »
Looks like I am breaking out the DVD tonight.
Let you know what I see. 
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2012, 12:19:41 PM »
mcwoodduck, you are correct. The rifle in the movie is a Farquharson.
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2012, 02:39:03 PM »
Great source of movie gun info is to google    "guns from _______________ ". great detail and great close up pictures from the movie.  http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Ghost_and_the_Darkness,_The. have fun looking up all those old westerns!!               taylorthom
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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2012, 11:28:35 AM »
Country Boy, mcwoodduck there is a new company making the Farquharson in NZ, It's called SAROKA. Go to www.sorokarifle.com to see this exquisite rifle.


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Re: Just finished the movie The Ghost and Darkness.
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2012, 11:42:44 AM »
Cool rifle.
 
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