Author Topic: RIA question (Read 1471 times)

Dales66Ford · « **on:** January 30, 2012, 05:29:02 AM »

I know there are some Rock Island fans on here, I have one myself and love it. My question is do they currently make a stainless or matte nickle in the commander length. My wife has a hankerin' for a 1911 in that style. She fell in love with a Taurus 1911 but it was in 38 super and she wants the 45 Rock.

williamlayton · « **Reply #1 on:** January 31, 2012, 01:29:24 AM »

For God's sake buy it.
Others that begin to occupy your fancy can always be laid off on buying it for her.
Blessings

Savage · « **Reply #2 on:** January 31, 2012, 12:06:20 PM »

I own both a RIA and Taurus 1911 platform pistols. In my opinion the Taurus is far superior. As soon as I can find a new home for it, the RIA is gone. If you're a reloader, and your wife likes the Taurus .38 super, buy it! I don't know if Taurus makes a 4" PT1911 but the 5" in .38 Super is a heck of a deal right now. CDNN has the best price I've seen on that pistol. I think Mikey has one, maybe he'll chime in.

Savage

Mikey · « **Reply #3 on:** January 31, 2012, 01:44:31 PM »

Savage: thanks. I do own a PT1911 in 38 Super and I have never been happier with any other out of the box 1911 in 38 Super. This baby eats everything I can load, including semi-wadcutters, hollowpoints, flat nosed slugs and of course the ubiquitus round nose. Tomorrow I plan on testing out some of John Taffin's loads for the Super using 158 gn cast, gas checked swc slugs as well as some plain based Keith slugs. These loads are accurate from his pistol and I'm hoping for the same results. Actually, since his groups with those slugs were 1" or so at 25 yds I would be extremely pleased with double that at that distance with those loads, which I would consider pretty dang good for a out of the box Super.

The Taurus pistols are so nicely priced, and are available. Your wife may wish to know that in comparison with my Springfield Gov't Model 45, the Taurus is lighter, has a better grip (imo) and is a hoot to shoot; easier to shoot too.

From a reloader's perspective the Super has tons to offer. It is a way serious caliber that with jacketed bullets can equal or exceed the 357 Sig and the 9x23 Winchester; with 158 gn jacketed slugs the 38 Super can equal the 357 magnum from 4' or shorter barrels. And you have 10 shots with the Taurus. You aren't stepping back or down with the 38 Super comparing it to a 45. The Super was developed to overcome the 45s lack of penetrability (on car bodies at the time which were much heavier steel than they are now), and it is easy shootin'.

When I saw the first CDNN adds for the Taurus PT1911 I jumped on one of the blued versions and have not looked back since.

timothy · « **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2012, 05:17:50 PM »

I read an article that claimed the law enforcement/auto body association to the .38 super is a myth. The article was at the nra website. Heres a quote.

And as late as 1940, Colt marketed the Government Model Super .38 purely as a hunting gun. “For the big game hunter and the lover of the outdoors, the Super .38 offers an arm of unsurpassed power and efficiency. …Will stop any animal on the American Continent and is a favorite as an auxiliary arm for big game hunting trips,” the company crowed in the 1940 “Shooter’s Bible.”

williamlayton · « **Reply #5 on:** January 31, 2012, 11:37:45 PM »

I have long touted the 38super and it is fun to shoot---the 9x23 is even better.
Commercial are commercials--touting aint always the whole story.
It was a good caliber for steel doors of that day---if you didn't have a rifle and was quicker than anything else in a handgun. It was present at Bonnie & Clydes going away but was not used in deference to some rifles that handled the action better.
Blessings

rawhidekid · « **Reply #6 on:** February 13, 2012, 02:12:01 AM »

My first 38 Super was a Taurus, but it had an unsupported feed ramp. Traded it for an RIA and have no worry of a bulged case from a hot load.

1911crazy · « **Reply #7 on:** February 13, 2012, 08:29:45 AM »

William / Mikey you guys don't make picking a new caliber easy do you. Its a 38super vs a 9x23........

williamlayton · « **Reply #8 on:** February 14, 2012, 01:50:52 AM »

AND Dillon has a 9x25.
I want a 9x24

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And the beat goes on.
Blessings

Dales66Ford · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2012, 04:44:12 AM »

I appreciate all of the input/opinions but she has her heart set on 45 acp since we already shoot that ammo. She also wants one in stainless or nickle. I may have to use this thread as a reason to find 38 super brass and load my own, the commercial fodder seems a bit pricey.

rawhidekid · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2012, 03:05:43 PM »

+1 on pricey ammo. My 38 Super hasn't had anything but my reloads. 124grn XTP bullets are my carry ammo, 157grn, 147grn,
125 grn lead for practice.

the jigger · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2012, 04:47:12 AM »

Look at American Classic 1911. They also are made in the Phillipines(Metro Arms). It can be had in Commander size 45ACP with Hard Chrome finish.
GOOD LUCK and GOOD SHOOTING!!!

Mikey · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2012, 10:14:43 AM »

rawhidekid: are you shooting the 158 gn cast slugs in your Super? What powders do you prefer. The Super may not have been designed to shoot casst slugs but mine sure shoots them well.....

rawhidekid · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:13:54 PM »

Mine shoots them great also, use god old Unique.

rawhidekid · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:16:39 PM »

I had meant to say good old Unique. But it seems to have been around as long as he.

I almost forgot , they are semi wad cutters seated with brass just covering crimp groove.

jcn59 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:48:12 PM »

I know this hardly fits in here but I have 2 RIA .38 Supers and one Taurus 1911 .38 Super. The Taurus shoots better for me, BUT! The shiny nickel RIA with white grips is really cool looking. The Taurus is finiky about reloads but the RIAs shoot everything. Both of them.

The nice thing about the .38 Supers is they cost alot less to shoot than the .45s, and they hit pretty hard, too.

ironglowjr · « **Reply #16 on:** March 04, 2012, 02:16:00 PM »

Well I I have a great deal of experience with both and i happen to love the RIA, especailly for $450...I have had no problems with it and fed every ammo you an think of...Few mods to it but nothing major...The PT1911 is nice as well ...But it all comes down to price If you want to save 200 Bucks get the RIA, if ya really dont care of the money issu get the PT1911...They are both good for the Money!!!

....ironglowjr

Mikey · « **Reply #17 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:20:49 AM »

Jr: my PT1911 ran me a hair under $400 from CDNN and has never hiccuped on me. CDNN also has the nickled/gold version and I figure that if I ever wanted to pimp my gun I would get one of those.

Savage · « **Reply #18 on:** March 09, 2012, 01:18:31 AM »

Those pimped out supers, do look good don't they Mikey? You know you want one!
Savage

jcn59 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 09, 2012, 03:50:51 AM »

I have one of those gold pimped out Supers and I'll have you know it goes real well with my pink hat. The one with the big purple ostrich feather.

Keith L · « **Reply #20 on:** March 09, 2012, 10:33:16 AM »

I want a hat like that!

1911crazy · « **Reply #21 on:** March 09, 2012, 02:35:25 PM »

I been wanting a 1911 in nickel finish and i think that RIA and Citadel are the only 1911 manufactuers who offer a nickel finish right now. Colt has discontinued there nickel finish and most of there guns too.
For a stainless 1911 i been looking at a thompson custom 1911. For right now these are my choices.
Hmm a gold plated 1911 (pimp out my 1911) my son is mining gold right now i wonder how hard is it to plate it? Kidding but true...
If those older C&R police 22cal target revolvers and new S&W n frames stop following me home i can get my 1911's collected.