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RT Update: "Enriched Uranium" Weapons used in Fallujah says Prof
« on: February 03, 2012, 02:33:25 AM »
British High Court to hear charges of illegal weapons used,,genetic waepons.......now poisoning the earth and the human genome..,,,,we saw similar residue at WTC...you decide....TM7
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.The high court in London is to hear a case over the use of uranium-enhanced weapons by U.S.-led forces during the infamous Iraqi Battle of Fallujah in 2005. This, following a number of reports alleging their use was much more widespread than originally thought. RT talks to Christopher Busby, the co-author of two such reports and a visiting professor at the school of Biomedical Studies, the University of Ulster.
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Re: RT Update: "Enriched Uranium" Weapons used in Fallujah says Prof
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 04:53:01 AM »
- He says they didn’t use “tanks” in Fallujah, when in fact the Marines heavily used MBTs and IFVs there.
- The use of enriched uranium in making thermobaric weapons doesn’t make any sense.  Fuel air and oxidizer based thermobaric weapons already exist and I’ve not seen any research that shows that enriched uranium offers any promise as a thermobaric accelerant at all, much less beyond the more than energetic enough weapons we already have in the arsenal.
- The US use of weapons containing enriched uranium would be impossible to hide.  Fallujah was a very close in fight; US troops would have been heavily contaminated by the residue of such weapons.  Also, the logistics of producing, shipping, storing and expending such munitions would be impossible to hide.  Everything they touched; transportation systems, storage locations, weapon systems (aircraft, gun barrels, etc) and the troops themselves would all be contaminated by enriched uranium if such weapons were used.

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Re: RT Update: "Enriched Uranium" Weapons used in Fallujah says Prof
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 06:03:45 AM »
TM7, not enough time has elapsed for that long list of problems to have cropped up.
if all that stuff really is happening, then we should take a look at saddams activities in that area over the years.
uranium use by our troops is BS.
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Re: RT Update: "Enriched Uranium" Weapons used in Fallujah says Prof
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 06:13:48 AM »
DU is a known serious health risk on the battlefield; all troops are warned about it.  The scientist isn’t talking about DU, he’s saying its enriched uranium.  He could be entirely correct on what he found in the environment in Fallujah, but then he makes the conclusion that it’s caused by some secret type of US munition.  What evidence does he have that it’s a US munition as the cause, and why does he suspect its thermobaric in nature?

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Re: RT Update: "Enriched Uranium" Weapons used in Fallujah says Prof
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 06:26:09 AM »
DU is a known serious health risk on the battlefield; all troops are warned about it.  The scientist isn’t talking about DU, he’s saying its enriched uranium.  He could be entirely correct on what he found in the environment in Fallujah, but then he makes the conclusion that it’s caused by some secret type of US munition.  What evidence does he have that it’s a US munition as the cause, and why does he suspect its thermobaric in nature?
sounds to me like saddams leftovers.
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Re: RT Update: "Enriched Uranium" Weapons used in Fallujah says Prof
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 12:50:15 PM »
I wish we'd dropped a lot more enriched uranium on Iraq, Iran, Saudia Arabia, Kuait, & Pakistan, and Afganistan.  Did I miss any?
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Re: RT Update: "Enriched Uranium" Weapons used in Fallujah says Prof
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2012, 07:19:18 AM »
Busby is not a weapons expert per say,,,he is an ionizing radiologic expert. I believe he is conjecturing about weapons, and is not at liberty to say exactly what he thinks that weaponry might be.
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A quick Google search on Busby reveals this video:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWua6EjfImI
 
Now apparently he is a weapons expert, because he’s identified Lockheed Martin’s Javelin missile as the secret enriched uranium weapon.  Of course he fails to mention that this video, which is on Lockheed Martin’s web site and has been all over the military sites for several years, shows a Javelin test against a combat loaded Russian T-72 tank. 
 
A design feature of modern Russian tanks is the auto loader system, which depends on a circular ammo basket sitting at the bottom of the turret ring.  The benefit of this system is eliminating the loader position and making the turret much lower in profile.  The drawback of this design is the tank is a roman candle, waiting for anything to set off the internal ammo and blow the tank sky high.  Ask any US soldier that’s been on the battlefield with Russian designed armor, one hit and they blow up like a huge hand grenade.  The Javelin is a superb weapon to attack Russian armor and take advantage of their design flaw since it’s a dual tandem warhead (over 18 lbs, not small as he suggests) that hits from above, where the armor is weakest.  The explosive jet from the missile detonation then fires right into the stored ammo below it.
 
So, he’s said that the US didn’t use tanks in the battle of Fallujah when they clearly did and he’s misidentified an old missile test video as the secret enriched uranium weapon.  What else has his misstated or screwed up?
 

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Re: RT Update: "Enriched Uranium" Weapons used in Fallujah says Prof
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2012, 12:30:27 PM »
 - The “no tanks at Fallujah” comment is on the video you originally posted, at about 3:55.  He’s certainly wrong on that, the video record with embedded reporters shows plenty of armor in use.
- The Javelin missile clip is also incorrect, that clip is several years old and nobody until now has proposed that it’s a secret enhanced uranium warhead.  The total destruction of the tank is perfectly in line with what happens when combat loaded Russian T-72 and T-80 tanks are struck, even with projectiles that have no explosives at all, such as kinetic penetrator tank rounds.
- His description of the secret weapon he proposes, also around 3:55 on your clip, is a jumbled mess that doesn’t really make any sense.  He says it uses enhanced uranium combined with high explosives for a directed charge for use as an anti-personnel weapon, and then he says its “kind of a neutron bomb” with a passing reference to cold fusion, then he says its use is for genetic attack against the civilians there.
- I don’t see any rationale for the use of some super-secret uranium thermobaric weapon in Fallujah for combat purposes, the military already has conventional thermobaric weapons capable of inflicting much more damage than the US was willing to cause in Fallujah, so using a lessor secret weapon that duplicates existing conventional capabilities doesn’t make any sense.  That just leaves his genetic attack theory, and why does that even need to be tied to a weapon system or the battle of Fallujah?  If someone wanted to spread enhanced uranium around all they’d have to do is hire some Iraqi from outside of the city to drive around in his car and dump it all over the place, you’d hardly need some secret weapon to accomplish that.
- The bottom line is he might be exactly correct on what he claims to have found in Fallujah and with the civilians there, but he damages his credibility right out the gate with some of his statements and proposals.

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Re: RT Update: "Enriched Uranium" Weapons used in Fallujah says Prof
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2012, 04:35:32 PM »
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Re: RT Update: "Enriched Uranium" Weapons used in Fallujah says Prof
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 02:37:07 AM »
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