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Please analyze my trigger pull data
« on: February 03, 2012, 01:39:28 PM »
I've harvested every deer I've ever taken with the same NEF 270.  I've had it over 15 years, so last year I thought I would set me up a 308 and retire the 'ole 270.  I got me a 308 and fit it with a Leupold VX-1 and a black synthetic stock.  I shot about 6 shots sighting it in and I was good to go.
 
I missed the first deer I've ever missed with this gun.  I chocked it up to the long distance neck shot I took.  Then on the last day of the season I missed the second deer I've ever missed with this gun.  I knew right away I missed it because I felt myself flinch and pull the shot.
 
So I ordered me a Wheeler Trigger Pull scale (http://www.amazon.com/Wheeler-309888-Trigger-Pull-Scale/dp/B004E4CZE2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328315519&sr=8-1).
 
Here are the results:
 

 
http://home.mchsi.com/~kgoble/2012-02-03-HR-trigger-pull.jpg
 
Note the 308 trigger pull is 8.5 pounds.
 
What are your thoughts?  What would you do?
 
Well, at least I can say that my 270 and still harvested every deer I've taken.   :'(
 
thanks,
-Kyle
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Please analyze my trigger pull data
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 02:40:47 PM »
kng,
Your 270 Win is at 6.5 pounds so that doesn't qualify as a light trigger either.   You have some options on your trigger and they are in the FAQs sticky.  You can do your own trigger job, pay a gunsmith to do it for you or I believe you can return your receiver to H&R and have them do it.  H&R has a policy on min. trigger pull but it is a lot lower than 8.5 pounds.  If it were my rifle I would head back to the range and see if maybe something else happen, something loose or broken maybe. 
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Re: Please analyze my trigger pull data
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 03:21:43 PM »
simular to what BB said..........too many varibles and not enough information bout ammo,
 rest conditions, scope and other things.
 
let someone else try there luck.  but as you say....yank'n tha trigger will kinda mess
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Re: Please analyze my trigger pull data
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2012, 06:16:10 AM »
I tried the graphite trick on my new 45-70 Talo Trapper, it averaged 6¾lb out of the box, after using the graphite(thanks Lonnie!! ;)) pull was just over 4lbs.  ;D

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Re: Please analyze my trigger pull data
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2012, 03:34:33 AM »
Just knock out the bottom 2 pins of the trigger group, make a slave pin.  Polish pins (600grit), clean hammer and trigger group.  Add about 25% powdered moly to Super Lube, use toothpick and lube everything well.  Don't hone on the trigger............it ought to bring you around 3lbs.
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Re: Please analyze my trigger pull data
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2012, 01:02:23 PM »
I decided to call H&R just to see what they'd say.  Turns out I didn't wait any time to get service and the woman was very helpful.  She emailed everything I need to send the rifle back and said they would set it to 3.5 to 4 pounds.
 
Problem is, I forget to ask if I needed to send the entire gun (stock set and barrel), or can I just send the receiver?
 
Any experience?
 
thanks,
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Re: Please analyze my trigger pull data
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2012, 01:25:53 PM »
Gardner did trigger jobs when just the frame was sent it, not sure if Ilion will,  PM Brian56, he'll know for sure.

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Re: Please analyze my trigger pull data
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2012, 01:41:42 PM »
Thanks Tim.  PM Sent.
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Re: Please analyze my trigger pull data
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2012, 11:52:58 AM »
Not sure why I didn't update this, but just in case anyone was wondering, the gun came back with a 5.25 pound trigger pull.
 
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12 ga. turkey, 20 ga. Topper Model 88, .410, 20 ga. Ultra Light Slug Hunter, 20 ga. Tamer

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Re: Please analyze my trigger pull data
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2012, 10:43:19 AM »
If it is crisp without creep, I could live with it at 5.25 pounds. However I much prefer a crisp 3 pound trigger for my hunting guns and 2 pounds or so for my varmint guns. I like to squeeeze them off, nice and easy.

Keep us informed with how it shoots and any hunting stories. We love hunting stories here.

BTW - Trigger time is your friend, enough of it and you will be able to put a shot any where you want it or know exactly why you did not.

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Re: Please analyze my trigger pull data
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2012, 11:13:38 AM »
I know guys who shoot some matches and win/place with a 5-6# that is crisp on the letoff, so it comes down to personal discipline.
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