Author Topic: 499 Hubel Express....Range Report!!! (Read 9698 times)

gcrank1 · « **Reply #60 on:** July 12, 2012, 09:47:33 AM »

"Ya think ya used enough dynamite there, Butch", comes to mind........

AtlLaw · « **Reply #61 on:** July 12, 2012, 10:28:08 AM »

!!!!!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #62 on:** July 12, 2012, 10:45:22 AM »

There's lots of room for more powder, my new predicted max load is just 65% load density, makes it easy to insure I don't do a double charge too since it would overflow!

Tim

quickdtoo · « **Reply #63 on:** August 31, 2012, 12:37:14 PM »

Here's an update, I think the 5744 was a poor choice, velocity just didn't increase much, I went up to 80gr and still barely only got up to just below 2200fps, another powder will be necessary, accuracy was about the same as before. And if anyone wants to know if a 50-140 3¼" Sharps 570gr .510" Hornady round will chamber and fire in the 499HE, it will! But don't ask how I know that.

Tim

bikerbeans · « **Reply #64 on:** August 31, 2012, 12:50:44 PM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on August 31, 2012, 12:37:14 PM

Here's an update, I think the 5744 was a poor choice, velocity just didn't increase much, I went up to 80gr and still barely only got up to just below 2200fps, another powder will be necessary, accuracy was about the same as before. And if anyone wants to know if a 50-140 3¼" Sharps 570gr .510" Hornady round will chamber and fire in the 499HE, it will! But don't ask how I know that.

Tim

Tim,

Ben dare and dun dat!

Launched a 500S&W round out of a 50-70govt.

BB

quickdtoo · « **Reply #65 on:** August 31, 2012, 12:57:58 PM »

That's what happens when ya have two ammo boxes sittin in front of ya and ya forget to close one of em, I usually put one away, but the RJ45 cable end on my chrony display won't stay plugged in, the little retainer lock broke off, so I set one box of ammo on the cable to hold it down, worked fine until I was almost done, then I forgot to close one and dug a round out of the wrong box......I have no idea where it hit, never found it.

Good news is it didn't hurt anything, the brass will still chamber in the 50-140 just like it was fired in it.

Tim

jeepmann1948 · « **Reply #66 on:** August 31, 2012, 02:17:49 PM »

Well at least it didn't hit the chrony

bet that would have made a mess!

gunther66 · « **Reply #67 on:** August 31, 2012, 02:34:41 PM »

Maybe we should start a new topic. OOPS! listing our screw-ups. Someone might be spared some grief.

keith44 · « **Reply #68 on:** August 31, 2012, 04:03:50 PM »

maybe we shouldn't, that way others can ask for advice from experts who never goof up

quickdtoo · « **Reply #69 on:** August 31, 2012, 05:01:28 PM »

jkpq45 · « **Reply #70 on:** September 12, 2012, 05:57:24 AM »

Quick, are the ~2000 FPS numbers you're gathering using the 385gr Rem projectiles? And this is the 22" 500S&W barrel, modified to .499 HE, correct? Just making sure of the test parameters.

Have you tried IMR 4759 or Alliant RL17? Mr. Hubel's a big fan of those sloooooow rifle powders for his other projects--wonder if they'd work in the .499 HE with the relatively short barrel.

Thanks,
jkpq45

quickdtoo · « **Reply #71 on:** September 12, 2012, 11:58:05 AM »

Yes, that's what I used with the A5744 loads, I'm out of them now tho, so will be using 350gr XTPs, 325gr and 375gr XPBs, Ed's data is based on his 32" test barrel which can utilize the slow powders, but in the 22" barrel a faster powder is necessary, otherwise there's just a lot of recoil due to the huge powder volume increase but not any velocity gain out of the short barrel. QL says IMR3031 or H4895 will work best with the lighter bullets, so that's what I'll use, I set the limit to 40kpsi which keeps breech thrust at ~10,000lbs which is ~1,000 less than a 500S&W max load at 52kpsi.

Tim

jkpq45 · « **Reply #72 on:** September 12, 2012, 12:01:24 PM »

Great choice with the H4895. Looking forward to hearing more progress!

jkpq45 · « **Reply #73 on:** March 14, 2013, 04:01:15 AM »

Any updates, quick?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #74 on:** March 14, 2013, 04:09:52 AM »

Not yet.

jkpq45 · « **Reply #75 on:** March 14, 2013, 04:21:57 AM »

It's snowy where I am, too--I got out to the range a few weeks ago and slogged around in the snow and mud, but it was pretty cold.

michael30.06 · « **Reply #76 on:** March 15, 2013, 12:33:38 PM »

End of the wet here means still too soft for vehicles and heavy undergrowth, so little or no shooting. but at least I can drop in here for some gun fun.
Sincerely thanks for sharing fellas and keep up the interesting projects.
Mick

quickdtoo · « **Reply #77 on:** March 15, 2013, 12:40:28 PM »

My next range trip probably won't be until June right after turkey season ends, I'm in the scouting mode now, looking for some new places to hunt, been out 3 times in the last week, seen close to a hundred elk a few deer and coyotes, but no turkey sign at all. My wife has surgery planned next week which will keep me grounded caring for her while she's recovering, hopefully she'll be back on her feet by April 15th when the season starts. $:-\$

Tim

gunther66 · « **Reply #78 on:** March 15, 2013, 03:40:45 PM »

Prayers going up for her speedy recovery. Same situation here for the past month. Very best to you both. G66

canon6 · « **Reply #79 on:** March 15, 2013, 03:58:45 PM »

Tim, prayers out for you and your wife.Take care Pard.Doug

BAGTIC · « **Reply #80 on:** March 22, 2013, 01:38:59 PM »

Have you ever fired that thing from the prone position? How many times?

GrassLakeRon · « **Reply #81 on:** March 22, 2013, 02:41:39 PM »

Would you mind shooting a video of you shooting this and posting it on YouTube?

Ron

quickdtoo · « **Reply #82 on:** March 22, 2013, 04:39:04 PM »

Quote from: BAGTIC on March 22, 2013, 01:38:59 PM

Have you ever fired that thing from the prone position? How many times?

Nope, and I don't care to shoot it or the 50-140 Express from a prone position, just from the leadsled with plenty of weight on it.

Tim

quickdtoo · « **Reply #83 on:** March 22, 2013, 04:39:36 PM »

Quote from: GrassLakeRon on March 22, 2013, 02:41:39 PM

Would you mind shooting a video of you shooting this and posting it on YouTube?

Ron

Sorry, no vidcam.

Tim

gcrank1 · « **Reply #84 on:** March 23, 2013, 04:41:15 AM »

Shoot it prone with a vid-cam?
'No, I wouldnt want anybody to see grown man cry.....'

quickdtoo · « **Reply #85 on:** March 23, 2013, 04:59:16 AM »

....or be hospitalized...or worse!!!

Tim

jkpq45 · « **Reply #86 on:** February 17, 2014, 12:45:57 AM »

Ever get a chance to get out with this elephant slayer last summer, Tim?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #87 on:** February 17, 2014, 12:53:05 AM »

Sorry to say no, this home remodeling project has taken priority, I'm just hoping it's done before the spring turkey season opener. $:-\$

Tim

gcrank1 · « **Reply #88 on:** February 17, 2014, 01:01:34 AM »

OM, Tim.....I sympathize.....BTDT only a few years ago and it took over my life for longer than I expected. The good news is that we do like what we did; Im sure you will too

.

petemi · « **Reply #89 on:** February 17, 2014, 02:48:34 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on February 17, 2014, 12:53:05 AM

Sorry to say no, this home remodeling project has taken priority, I'm just hoping it's done before the spring turkey season opener. $:-\$

Tim

Tim, I'm glad to see someone else has their neck in the Honey Do trap. Welcome aboard.

Returning somewhat to topic. Tim, you, Jason, bikerbeans and now George and some other masochists all wanna do this matcho man crap with the big gun. Hooray, have fun, get at it. I get enough excitement out of my .45-70s pushing the 405 close to two grand. Three or four of those are quite enough to cure restlessness.

Now, this is the real question: What do you guys expect to encounter that will require that kind of killing? Granted, it might be fun to knock an Amtrak locomotive off the tracks, but you can go to jail for that. I have dissolved chipmunks and similar critters with the .45-70. I was lucky though, I got them before they turned and charged.

Seriously, Tim, what can you do with that thing except abuse old and brittle bones? I ain't into it. Y'all have fun.

Pete