Santorum wins big, Ron Paul moves up..

[blind ear]

Am I the only one that thinks we are bailing water on the Titanic?  The ship is sinking, you can bail or pout.  Pouting until RP gets elected won't help anything.

that's right.

Ron Paul supporters are voteing for a real change, and not pouting because someone else won't vote for the lesser of evils and keeping on the downhill slide.
 
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[Swampman]

Yep they are voting for real change.  They are defacto voting for "Obama and the New Supremes."

[blind ear]

Yep they are voting for real change.  They are defacto voting for "Obama and the New Supremes."

 

comeing to a head sooner is better than later. Incriments by both parties weaken us gradually. If it happens quickly more people will react. ear

[Swampman]

Point?

[DDZ]

I really don't think it will make much difference who gets elected. If the foundation is weak what does it matter who is at the top. Until we the people have a change of heart, and start to follow the directions God laid out for us in how we should live, and rebuild that foundation, the rest will continue to crumble. Following is writings from William Penn when he wrote "Frame of Government Of Pennsylvania" which ended up being an inspiration for our Constitution. It was true in 1682, and its just as true today.
 "A loose and depraved people love laws and an administration like themselves". 
 
But, lastly, when all is said, there is hardly one frame of government in the world so ill designed by its first founders that, in good hands, would not do well enough; and story tells us, the best, in ill ones, can do nothing that is great or good; witness the Jewish and Roman states. Governments, like clocks, go from the motion men give them, and as governments are made and moved by men, so by them they are ruined too. Wherefore governments rather depend upon men than men upon governments. Let men be good, and the government cannot be bad; if it be ill, they will cure it. But, if men be bad, let the government be ever so good, they will endeavor to warp and spoil it to their turn.
I know some say, "Let us have good laws, and no matter for the men that execute them"; but let them consider that, though good laws do well, good men do better, for good laws may want good men and be abolished or evaded [invaded in Franklin's print] by ill men; but good men will never want good laws nor suffer ill ones. It is true, good laws have some awe upon ill ministers, but that is where they have not power to escape or abolish them, and the people are generally wise and good, but a loose and depraved people (which is the question) love laws and an administration like themselves. That, therefore, which makes a good constitution, must keep it, viz.: men of wisdom and virtue, qualities that, because they descend not with worldly inheritances, must be carefully propagated by a virtuous education of youth; for which after ages will owe more to the care and prudence of founders, and the successive magistracy, than to their parents, for their private patrimonies.  William Penn.

[Cuts Crooked]

Am I the only one that thinks we are bailing water on the Titanic?  The ship is sinking, you can bail or pout.  Pouting until RP gets elected won't help anything.

Water coming in hundreds of thousands a gallons a minute.....bail a gallon every two seconds.................glug.

[Cuts Crooked]

And I note that Romney just barely squeaked past Paul in Maine http://news.yahoo.com/romney-comeback-narrow-maine-caucus-win-001407578.html

[Doublebass73]

I have a candidate that I like and voted for him in the primary. I don't like any of the other candidates running for the Republican nomination.

Members here who are supposedly conservative keep telling me that it will be my fault if Obama gets re-elected because I refuse to vote for their liberal Republican candidate. I ask them for reasons why I should vote for their liberal candidate and the only two reasons they can come up with is that their candidate is not Obama and that my candidate sucks.

Sorry folks, you're going to have to do better than that because I'm done being a cheap prostitute for the Republican party which nominates liberals each time. Don't blame me if Obama gets elected again because I refuse to vote for a liberal, blame yourselves for being part of the problem.

[BUGEYE]

I have a candidate that I like and voted for him in the primary. I don't like any of the other candidates running for the Republican nomination.

Members here who are supposedly conservative keep telling me that it will be my fault if Obama gets re-elected because I refuse to vote for their liberal Republican candidate. I ask them for reasons why I should vote for their liberal candidate and the only two reasons they can come up with is that their candidate is not Obama and that my candidate sucks.

Sorry folks, you're going to have to do better than that because I'm done being a cheap prostitute for the Republican party which nominates liberals each time. Don't blame me if Obama gets elected again because I refuse to vote for a liberal, blame yourselves for being part of the problem.

I've stated why I'm now supporting Santorum.
I think we all need to calm down and try to start a dialogue and lay some plans to maybe start an e-mail marathon to to a couple of candidates.  everybody here is guilty of argueing, we really should stop.

[Doublebass73]

If people are going to name call the candidate that I support and blame me for another 4 years of Obama because I won't support liberal candidates then yes, I'm going to argue about it.

[BUGEYE]

If people are going to name call the candidate that I support and blame me for another 4 years of Obama because I won't support liberal candidates then yes, I'm going to argue about it.

double, I've been called some pretty bad names for not supporting RP, but I'm willing to forget it.
in fact I apologized a few days ago, but someone immediately locked it.

[Cuts Crooked]

I really could care lass about the bickering on here....it's the nature of the web, people disagree!

 What I don't care for is the type of people who vandalized my vans and ripped up the RP signs and banners in my yard. But the local gendarmes tell me I'm not alone, its happened to quite a few RP supporters here over the past month.

[Doublebass73]

If people are going to name call the candidate that I support and blame me for another 4 years of Obama because I won't support liberal candidates then yes, I'm going to argue about it.

double, I've been called some pretty bad names for not supporting RP, but I'm willing to forget it.
in fact I apologized a few days ago, but someone immediately locked it.

I won't call you names for not supporting RP but I will challenge you when you say things about him that I feel are not true. You have your reasons for not liking him, that's fine but when you say he's anti gun and pro abortion his record stands just the opposite of what you're saying. You may disagree with him on other issues, that's fine but he's on our team when it comes to those two issues despite the things you keep repeating.

[Swampman]

And I note that Romney just barely squeaked past Paul in Maine http://news.yahoo.com/romney-comeback-narrow-maine-caucus-win-001407578.html

Barely squeaking by is all that's needed....There are no second place winners....

[Cuts Crooked]

And I note that Romney just barely squeaked past Paul in Maine http://news.yahoo.com/romney-comeback-narrow-maine-caucus-win-001407578.html

Barely squeaking by is all that's needed....There are no second place winners....

yeah yeah....I keep hearing that from you about florida too. It still shows that Romabama is not a sure thing by any stretch.

[BUGEYE]

If people are going to name call the candidate that I support and blame me for another 4 years of Obama because I won't support liberal candidates then yes, I'm going to argue about it.

double, I've been called some pretty bad names for not supporting RP, but I'm willing to forget it.
in fact I apologized a few days ago, but someone immediately locked it.

I won't call you names for not supporting RP but I will challenge you when you say things about him that I feel are not true. You have your reasons for not liking him, that's fine but when you say he's anti gun and pro abortion his record stands just the opposite of what you're saying. You may disagree with him on other issues, that's fine but he's on our team when it comes to those two issues despite the things you keep repeating.

well, I started checking RP when the campaigns started because I believe in the constitution.
but when I discovered his deceit concerning earmarks, I figured if a person will lie about one thing, he'll lie about anything which puts him in the same class as the rest of'em.  so I went with the one who seems to be a Christian.
people need to get the hate out of their hearts.

[Doublebass73]

Swampman,

If the election comes down to Romney vs. Obama should I vote for the gun grabber who signed socialist healthcare into law or should I vote for the gun grabber who signed socialist healthcare into law?

[Cuts Crooked]

well, I started checking RP when the campaigns started because I believe in the constitution.
but when I discovered his deceit concerning earmarks, I figured if a person will lie about one thing, he'll lie about anything which puts him in the same class as the rest of'em.  so I went with the one who seems to be a Christian.
people need to get the hate out of their hearts.

OMG!!!!!!!!!! Yer concerned about a politician lying?!?!?! You got some serious long term problems to deal with then don't you?
A Christian huh? That's really interesting!
Hate? Sorry, I can't help it, I'm only human.

[Doublebass73]

If people are going to name call the candidate that I support and blame me for another 4 years of Obama because I won't support liberal candidates then yes, I'm going to argue about it.

double, I've been called some pretty bad names for not supporting RP, but I'm willing to forget it.
in fact I apologized a few days ago, but someone immediately locked it.

I won't call you names for not supporting RP but I will challenge you when you say things about him that I feel are not true. You have your reasons for not liking him, that's fine but when you say he's anti gun and pro abortion his record stands just the opposite of what you're saying. You may disagree with him on other issues, that's fine but he's on our team when it comes to those two issues despite the things you keep repeating.

well, I started checking RP when the campaigns started because I believe in the constitution.
but when I discovered his deceit concerning earmarks, I figured if a person will lie about one thing, he'll lie about anything which puts him in the same class as the rest of'em.  so I went with the one who seems to be a Christian.
people need to get the hate out of their hearts.

Who has hate in their heart?

[BUGEYE]

If people are going to name call the candidate that I support and blame me for another 4 years of Obama because I won't support liberal candidates then yes, I'm going to argue about it.

double, I've been called some pretty bad names for not supporting RP, but I'm willing to forget it.
in fact I apologized a few days ago, but someone immediately locked it.

I won't call you names for not supporting RP but I will challenge you when you say things about him that I feel are not true. You have your reasons for not liking him, that's fine but when you say he's anti gun and pro abortion his record stands just the opposite of what you're saying. You may disagree with him on other issues, that's fine but he's on our team when it comes to those two issues despite the things you keep repeating.

well, I started checking RP when the campaigns started because I believe in the constitution.
but when I discovered his deceit concerning earmarks, I figured if a person will lie about one thing, he'll lie about anything which puts him in the same class as the rest of'em.  so I went with the one who seems to be a Christian.
people need to get the hate out of their hearts.

Who has hate in their heart?

RP supporters.
because I don't support RP, and try to choose the most truthful candidate, and loudly voice my opposition to the slaughter of babies, Matt told me that everything I said was unamerican.
that sounds like hate to me.

[Doublebass73]

If people are going to name call the candidate that I support and blame me for another 4 years of Obama because I won't support liberal candidates then yes, I'm going to argue about it.

double, I've been called some pretty bad names for not supporting RP, but I'm willing to forget it.
in fact I apologized a few days ago, but someone immediately locked it.

I won't call you names for not supporting RP but I will challenge you when you say things about him that I feel are not true. You have your reasons for not liking him, that's fine but when you say he's anti gun and pro abortion his record stands just the opposite of what you're saying. You may disagree with him on other issues, that's fine but he's on our team when it comes to those two issues despite the things you keep repeating.

well, I started checking RP when the campaigns started because I believe in the constitution.
but when I discovered his deceit concerning earmarks, I figured if a person will lie about one thing, he'll lie about anything which puts him in the same class as the rest of'em.  so I went with the one who seems to be a Christian.
people need to get the hate out of their hearts.

Who has hate in their heart?

RP supporters.
because I don't support RP, and try to choose the most truthful candidate, and loudly voice my opposition to the slaughter of babies, Matt told me that everything I said was unamerican.
that sounds like hate to me.

The same could be said about your posts about Ron Paul and his supporters.

[BUGEYE]

If people are going to name call the candidate that I support and blame me for another 4 years of Obama because I won't support liberal candidates then yes, I'm going to argue about it.

double, I've been called some pretty bad names for not supporting RP, but I'm willing to forget it.
in fact I apologized a few days ago, but someone immediately locked it.

I won't call you names for not supporting RP but I will challenge you when you say things about him that I feel are not true. You have your reasons for not liking him, that's fine but when you say he's anti gun and pro abortion his record stands just the opposite of what you're saying. You may disagree with him on other issues, that's fine but he's on our team when it comes to those two issues despite the things you keep repeating.

well, I started checking RP when the campaigns started because I believe in the constitution.
but when I discovered his deceit concerning earmarks, I figured if a person will lie about one thing, he'll lie about anything which puts him in the same class as the rest of'em.  so I went with the one who seems to be a Christian.
people need to get the hate out of their hearts.

Who has hate in their heart?

RP supporters.
because I don't support RP, and try to choose the most truthful candidate, and loudly voice my opposition to the slaughter of babies, Matt told me that everything I said was unamerican.
that sounds like hate to me.

The same could be said about your posts about Ron Paul and his supporters.

I've tried twice to apologize to you.
if we had everything here in front of us, the name calling started with a certain mod.
oh well, I tried to apologize, so my conscience is clear.

[Doublebass73]

If people are going to name call the candidate that I support and blame me for another 4 years of Obama because I won't support liberal candidates then yes, I'm going to argue about it.

double, I've been called some pretty bad names for not supporting RP, but I'm willing to forget it.
in fact I apologized a few days ago, but someone immediately locked it.

I won't call you names for not supporting RP but I will challenge you when you say things about him that I feel are not true. You have your reasons for not liking him, that's fine but when you say he's anti gun and pro abortion his record stands just the opposite of what you're saying. You may disagree with him on other issues, that's fine but he's on our team when it comes to those two issues despite the things you keep repeating.

well, I started checking RP when the campaigns started because I believe in the constitution.
but when I discovered his deceit concerning earmarks, I figured if a person will lie about one thing, he'll lie about anything which puts him in the same class as the rest of'em.  so I went with the one who seems to be a Christian.
people need to get the hate out of their hearts.

Who has hate in their heart?

RP supporters.
because I don't support RP, and try to choose the most truthful candidate, and loudly voice my opposition to the slaughter of babies, Matt told me that everything I said was unamerican.
that sounds like hate to me.

The same could be said about your posts about Ron Paul and his supporters.

I've tried twice to apologize to you.
if we had everything here in front of us, the name calling started with a certain mod.
oh well, I tried to apologize, so my conscience is clear.

You don't need to apologize to me, it's all in good fun.

[Ranch13]

And I note that Romney just barely squeaked past Paul in Maine http://news.yahoo.com/romney-comeback-narrow-maine-caucus-win-001407578.html

Pretty weird isn't it. 5000 or less folks turn out in Maine to vote.

[Graybeard]

ENOUGH already with the silly muliple quotes. Learn to quote only the comment you are replying to or don't quote at all.

[williamlayton]

I understand that some of you folks think that Ron Paul is the savior. I do not agree---I thinkthere are better choices.
This election CAN be the basis for turning the country around. It will only be a starting point.
The whole scope of our government has got to change and to do this we need to make changes in all departments. Some of these candidates should stay in the departments they are in.
If the RNC wants Paul---I will vote for him. The time has come for putting one issue election votes behind us and begin to come together--united.
Folks, it will take several elections to get this ship righted.
Our work is ahead of us.
Blessings

[andy1300]

Four more years of Obama is what I'm hoping for, he just about got our country back too where our country was
before your republican Bush jr screwed things up , four more years of Obama and he will clean up all the republicans
mess ! If we have another republican that gets into office I bet you we will in a big war in six months again.

[BUGEYE]

I understand that some of you folks think that Ron Paul is the savior. I do not agree---I thinkthere are better choices.
This election CAN be the basis for turning the country around. It will only be a starting point.
The whole scope of our government has got to change and to do this we need to make changes in all departments. Some of these candidates should stay in the departments they are in.
If the RNC wants Paul---I will vote for him. The time has come for putting one issue election votes behind us and begin to come together--united.
Folks, it will take several elections to get this ship righted.
Our work is ahead of us.
Blessings

I'm in 100% agreement with this post.

[BUGEYE]

ENOUGH already with the silly muliple quotes. Learn to quote only the comment you are replying to or don't quote at all.

several weeks ago someone was going to give a tutorial on this after running it by you, but I never saw anything else on it.
I don't know how to single out one quote.

[Dixie Dude]

I too agree.  America is like a big ship.  It can't turn on a dime.  We have to keep electing the most conservative cantidates we can until the ship turns right.  It didn't get turned left overnight, and it won't get turned right overnight.  It will take a long term committed effort on all who claim to be conservative.  Communists, liberals, etc, are political activists.  Conservatives by nature are not.  We just want to be left alone.  So, like the TEA party that sprung up and elected members of congress who wanted to cut the budget.  At least it got people talking about cutting.  We just need some more.  We also need to elect these people on the local level.  Libertarians, Constitutionalists, and conservative Republicans to get things turned around.  WE DO NOT NEED OBAMA TO APPOINT MORE LIBERAL JUDGES TO THE SUPREME COURT.  Even Romney would at least appoint more moderate or even conservative judges.  If Paul or Santorium or Gingrich doesn't win the nomination, we have to support Romney just because he would be the more conservative than Obama even if he is moderate.  I will vote for Paul in the primaries.  He probably won't win the nomination, but if he gets enough votes, and if the nominee wants to unite the party, he will have to listen to what Paul and his followers want.  At this point, it is to audit the FED and try to get back to the gold standard.  No more bailouts, and drastically cut the federal budget and drastically cut the regulations.