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One Happy Camper
« on: February 08, 2012, 06:22:46 AM »
Thanks to a fellow forum member here I am now the proud owner of a new 209 x 50 barrel for my Encore. Might add, Topash is a great guy to do buiseness with. You'll not find anyone who will treat you better nor more fair. Just not possible. :) I've been wanting a muzzy barrel since I got my Encore in 2,001. I really love my Encore. I love how it carries and shoulders and it does so beautifully with the new barrel too. I've no doubt I'll love how it shoots as well. Plan on using 100 grains of 777 ( two pellets ) pushing a 245 gr Copper Series Power Belt Aerotip. That load works really well in my CVA Optima Pro.  Now I'm shopping for a new scope to slap on it and Missouri Whitetails had best watch out! ;)
 
With the .270 barrel and a Bushnell Elite 3200
 

 
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Re: One Happy Camper
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 08:18:48 AM »
Looks great, I have one I just got only stainless. I use T7 but found that a 50 and a 30 grn pellet with the same 245 bullet worked better and so that is what I now use.
 
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Re: One Happy Camper
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 02:21:57 PM »
Thanks. I couldn't imagine a rifle I'd rather hunt with so now that I can muzzy season too I'm in Heaven! :) My son is now  shopping for him a .50 barrel for his Pro Hunter too.

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Re: One Happy Camper
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 09:38:46 AM »
I purchased my Encore as a 209x50 and have yet to purchase another barrel for it.   ;D   Mine is a stainless, but they should shoot the same.  Here are some things I learned from working up loads for mine.
 
First, these things are capable of incredible accuracy.  I worked up a load that I shot off of a bench that repeated 1" groups at 200 yards.  My load was 80gr of T7 powder (not pellets) and a 240gr Dead Center by PR Bullet.  Accuracy opened up shooting any more than 80 grains.  My particular barrel did NOT like powerbelts.  I couldn't get them to group satisfactory no matter what powder charge.  I've since lowered the price per shot on mine since I only hunt with it (at fairly close range here in southern Indiana) and found the same 80gr of T7 powder and the Hornady 45cal XTP Mag sabot did quite well too, so that's my go-to load these days.
 
With pellets, there is a nice convenience factor, especially if you shoot in 50 grain increments, but there are some other considerations you need to keep in mind.  The pellets have enough inconsistencies that you could be off several grains in a loading.  Some are chipped or cracked, which also affects the charge or the burning characteristics.  You also have to make sure you get a consistent seat against the pellets without crushing them.  They are also considerably more expensive compared to loose powder.  To me, these things outweight the convenience factor of the pellet.  To get around this, I meter out an accurate charge of loose powder and drop it in a film case to carry in my pocket.  It's just as quick and convenient as the pellet, but more precise and without all the other concerns you have to keep track of.
 
Another thing is getting a load worked up for best accuracy and efficiency in the barrel.  Most barrels that length will not burn 100gr of powder before the bullet leaves the barrel, so you get lots of muzzle blast and more recoil without any real gains in velocity and a potential loss in accuracy.  If you insist on using pellets, work up a load for your muzzleloader and then use the correct pellet charge as Deacon mentioned.
 
One last tidbit of advice is allowing the sabot to "ride the rifling" while you load.  Once the sabot engages the rifling, let the rifling guide the sabot down the barrel by going slow and deliberately allowing the bullet to twist with the rifling.  Shoving it down and jumping the rifling with the sabot lends to poor accuracy.  Those little spin jag things seem to promote the same proceedure.
 
All of my whitetail hunting is done with a muzzleloader (except in bow season, of course!), and you're absolutely correct about them.  I love the way they shoulder and point, and the accuracy is incredible as well as long as you take the time to work up a good load for it.  Congrats on a great purchase!  Both set-ups look sweet!
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Re: One Happy Camper
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2012, 05:50:04 AM »
Thanks to a fellow forum member here I am now the proud owner of a new 209 x 50 barrel for my Encore. Might add, Topash is a great guy to do buiseness with. You'll not find anyone who will treat you better nor more fair.   

Yup, great guy to deal with!
I'm looking to put an Encore ML together for my son. Your setup is exactly what he would like - but with stainless. I'm more a wood and blue guy. Either way, I'm thinking a 40 cal fast twist barrel for conventional lead bullets. They work great in my .40-65 to any range needed, ought to work in a muzzleloader once the barrel details are worked out.  I have a fuzzy bore Contender .45 barrel that I might line to .40 or start with a Handi stub and work out the details on that. My state requires .40 cal minimum or I'd go to .375. Enjoy, nice setup!
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Re: One Happy Camper
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2012, 06:44:57 AM »
If you don't mind the thump try 3, 50 grain pellets and a 295 grain power belt bullet.  Shoots like a dream.


You are going to like that muzzle loader barrel ;D


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Re: One Happy Camper
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2012, 10:35:11 AM »
Thanks guys. I kept the original wood stock and I realy love wood best of all. However I carry my Encore on my ATV a lot and also over some pretty rugged terrain. I had the cammo synthetic stock set given to me, my son got it as an add on to a trade he made, and I like the idea of not having to worry about it getting all scratched and dinged up. :)