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Offline kennyd

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rebore?
« on: February 13, 2012, 03:33:02 PM »
I just found a .243 NU in a shop priced at $130.  It is somewhat beat up, the barrel shows some rust outside, dirty bore.  The wood looks pretty good.  The rail is beat up with some of the anodizing gone, and looks like someone took a hammer to it, or let it bang around under a seat.


I would like to have a bigger bore gun, either a 35 whelen, 358 win, or .338-06, or .338 Federal.  Which would be the better choice?  The .243 would only need rebored to make a Federal or Win, I think,  the throate would need to be redone.  A 06 family would require rechambering.


Don't even start me on wanting things like a .260, 8mm Mauser, and all.
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Re: rebore?
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2012, 04:05:14 PM »
 I myself am looking to do a rebore to .358 win. Check with JES WWW.35Caliber.com . Keep us updated. Check Indiana forum, Steve@357maximum.com  just had them do a 308 bolt to a .358 win and is very happy with the results.
 
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Re: rebore?
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2012, 04:15:16 PM »
Quote from: kennyd on February 13, 2012, 03:33:02 PM
I just found a .243 NU in a shop priced at $130.  It is somewhat beat up, the barrel shows some rust outside, dirty bore.  The wood looks pretty good.  The rail is beat up with some of the anodizing gone, and looks like someone took a hammer to it, or let it bang around under a seat.


I would like to have a bigger bore gun, either a 35 whelen, 358 win, or .338-06, or .338 Federal.  Which would be the better choice?  The .243 would only need rebored to make a Federal or Win, I think,  the throate would need to be redone.  A 06 family would require rechambering.


Don't even start me on wanting things like a .260, 8mm Mauser, and all.
thanks

I think you may run into some issues with anything of the same case as a 243 with that rebore. Ask specfically of the GS preforming the work...
 
8MM would be nice, but its a bastard bore and not many can do it...  Keep us posted its a intersting project!
 CW
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Re: rebore?
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2012, 06:05:44 PM »
Kennyd,

You can get the 35 Whelen from H&R with or without sights for ~$160 shipped as an accessory barrel, see the new accessory barrels sticky, any of the rebores will cost about $250 or so.

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Re: rebore?
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2012, 11:24:54 PM »
Or you can ream a .35 Rem. or .357 barrel to .356 or .358 for the price of a reamer rental.  The extractor needs to be modified.

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Re: rebore?
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 12:05:16 AM »
How hard would it be to ream a 35 Rem barrel to a 358 Win and will the H&R handle the 358 Win.  I am thinking of using a 358 Win trimmed to the Indiana legal 1.8" and am currently researching platforms to use.  Thanks.
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Re: rebore?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 12:25:37 AM »
A 35 rem barrel or 357  would be very easy to re-chamber to 358 or 356 win. The 356 win is a better choice because of the rim.There is not much shoulder to headspace on the 358 and failure to fire can happen unless very careful resizing procedures are followed.The 356 win headspaces on the rim creating a much more stable platform.
 A 356 win shortened to 1.8" would be a very nice Indiana deer cartridge. Check around I am sure someone has already had a reamer cut for it
Good Luck it sounds like a great project
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Re: rebore?
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2012, 12:35:11 AM »
Dinny, and I have Handis in .356/.358.  They shoot and handle both well.  cwlongshot is in the process of doing his.  Dinny's was a custom stub.  Mine's a reamed .357 Mag, and CWs a reamed .35 Remington.  The .357 can be done by hand, the .35 Remington has more metal to remove is best done on a lathe.  The reamer is available for rent from our sponsor 4D.  The extractor is changed to .30-30 and modified.  There are two recent threads on the .356:

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,251376.0.html

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,251248.0.html

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Re: rebore?
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 12:46:57 AM »
Just to but in with more information ;D ... The 356 Win case is 2.015 in factory form. By trimming it to the required 1.800 length seating the bullet to the same overall length and carefully using a taper crimp die you now have a legitimate and legal 300 yard Indiana Deer rifle. It will also be able to fire the longer cases as well because it was cut with a factory dimension reamer, should Indiana change the law again or you decide to go to another state to hunt.
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Re: rebore?
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2012, 03:36:22 AM »
Quote from: jeepmann1948 on February 14, 2012, 12:46:57 AM
The 356 Win case is 2.015 in factory form. ... trimming it to the required 1.800 length ... seating the bullet to the same overall length ... carefully using a taper crimp die ...

Hummmmmmm... Lessee here...  That'd leave about a .150 neck... sumpin under half the bullet diameter...  good taper crimp... short bullet... maybe seat the bullet deeper into the case some...  :-\
 
By George!!  :o   It can be done!!   I'd do it!!!  ;D   Heck, I'd like to try that in my 358 ... just for grins don't cha know!  ;D
 
'course I'll forget about it the minute I step away from the computer.   :(   I hate being senile...  :'( 
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Re: rebore?
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2012, 03:58:23 AM »
I am not restricted by case length in NY ( most every thing else is restricted ). Just wondering if the (1.800) case would cause problems in the throat area. Got to crud it up at the least. Have shot many .38 in .357 ,did not seem to cause any big problem but the .356 is a lot more case and more powder.
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Re: rebore?
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2012, 04:39:48 AM »
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Re: rebore?
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2012, 05:20:23 AM »
So THAT'S what that thread was about!   ::)   Just shows ta go ya... ain't no new idea under the sun...  :-\
 
Now, let's get back to that cutting a rim on a .308 chamber!   ;D
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Re: rebore?
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2012, 05:31:00 AM »
It's not a new idea.  ;D

Tim

Quote from: quickdtoo on February 08, 2011, 06:22:49 PM
I've said it before..... If'n I lived in Indiana and they passed the 1.8" min rule, I'd get hold of a 35 Rem Handi or rechamber an SB2 357Mag or even a Maxi(in fact I did just that!  8)) and trim the brass to 1.8", seat the bullet long and load to Super 35 Rem velocities, 2450fps with the 180gr SSP is easy to do in the 22" barrel. The 200gr FTX would be even better at ~2400fps.

Tim

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Range (yds)   Muzzle   50       100    200         300   
Velocity (fps)   2400   2261   2127   1872   1639   
Energy (ft.-lb.)   2302   2043   1808   1401   1074   
Trajectory    -1.5            1.7            3.1            0.0           -13.1
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