Militay Chaplains may be charged with treason for preaching against sin.

[powderman]

 Military Chaplains to be Charged with Sedition and Treason for Preaching Against Sin     One of the main news topics this past week involved President Obama’s mandate that Catholic and other religious institutions were required to provide free medical coverage for birth control.  Then the president seemed to offer an olive branch, but upon closer examination the branch turned out to be deadly hemlock and not olive.  He said that the insurance companies would have to provide the free birth control to the employees of religious institutions, which is virtually the same disregard for strong religious beliefs and to many Americans an outright violation of the Frist Amendment.
In all of the news and discussions, no one paid any attention to the effects this was having on our military personnel, especially the chaplains.  The Catholic Church had issued a denomination wide letter in which they informed parishioners that the Church “cannot and will not comply with this unjust law.”
The Army immediately issued orders to all chaplains, especially Catholic chaplains that they are not allowed to read the letter in its entirety and that certain portions of it are to be blacked out and not read aloud.  Former Navy chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt said,
 

“The secretary of the Army said you have to line out some of the language, or else we’re going to charge the chaplains with sedition and treason for opposing the Obama administration.  Can you believe this? They are actually threatening chaplains with court-martial if they dare to preach against sin in their own church.

First the Pentagon tells all chaplains that they are required to ignore their religious beliefs and perform same-sex marriages or unions for military personnel requesting such services.  Then they told all military chaplains that they had to make their facilities available for same-sex union ceremonies.
Klingenschmitt reports that he was literally forced to resign his commission as a Navy chaplain after he had prayed publicly in the name of Jesus while wearing his Navy uniform.
Now the Pentagon is telling chaplains that they cannot preach against mandated birth control coverage or the sanctity of life without facing the serious charges of sedition and treason.
If Obama is re-elected in November, I would not be surprised to see his administration force all Christian chaplains to never mention anything about the Bible, Jesus Christ or preach against any sin.  They’ll be turned into nothing more than secular counselors.  But Muslim chaplains will be allowed to speak of Allah and publicly pray to Allah aloud.

Read more: Military Chaplains to be Charged with Sedition and Treason for Preaching Against Sin http://godfatherpolitics.com/3673/military-chaplains-to-be-charged-with-sedition-and-treason-for-preaching-against-sin/#ixzz1mP2KlaTh

[BBF]

Chaplains being Officers and not bound by  an enlistment mandatory service lenght can and IMO should resign en masse if this order stands.
 
BTW didn't Obama get more then a 50% vote from Catholics?? 

[BUGEYE]

Chaplains being Officers and not bound by  an enlistment mandatory service lenght can and IMO should resign en masse if this order stands.
 
BTW didn't Obama get more then a 50% vote from Catholics?? 

yes and yes.  it's a mystery to me why any Christian would vote for him, considering that his church prayed that God would damn America.

[yellowtail3]

yes and yes.  it's a mystery to me why any Christian would vote for him, considering that his church prayed that God would damn America.

not true. Have you read the text of that infamous sermon?


BTW... thread title is disingenuous & inaccurate.

[BUGEYE]

I've read it, and had the feeling that you'd show with anti-Christian nonsense.

You've read it? I'm surprised. What did you think of it, apart from its infamous line? Anything in it you agreed with?


As soon as I start with anti-Christian nonsense, I'm depending upon you to point it out - will you?

if there's a bunch of rotten apples in that sack you're looking at, you generally choose a different sack.
powderman is good enough to keep us up on the news and no matter the subject, you are against him personally it seems.
I guess the devil really does have advocates.

[Cuts Crooked]

BTW... thread title is disingenuous & inaccurate.

Really?

“The secretary of the Army said you have to line out some of the language, or else we’re going to charge the chaplains with sedition and treason for opposing the Obama administration.  Can you believe this? They are actually threatening chaplains with court-martial if they dare to preach against sin in their own church.

[yellowtail3]

Maybe I need to go read the link in the OP - have any chaplains been charged with treason for preaching against sin? TN?

I've reach the UCMJ. Nothing in there about preaching against sin.

anyhow... I've been reading some Rev. Wright, and... he's right about some things. I guess before looking at hi sermon, one would have to be honest with themselves and answer this: are the reading for comprehension and understanding, or cherry-picking for the sake of gathering evidence to support a political agenda? I've done the former (but I've been guilty of the latter in times past)

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-wright%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cgod-damn-america%E2%80%9D-sermon/

[gstewart44]

Perhaps we will hear from Team Nelson on this one.   What say you TN ? 

[Cuts Crooked]

Maybe I need to go read the link in the OP - have any chaplains been charged with treason for preaching against sin? TN?

I've reach the UCMJ. Nothing in there about preaching against sin.

anyhow... I've been reading some Rev. Wright, and... he's right about some things. I guess before looking at hi sermon, one would have to be honest with themselves and answer this: are the reading for comprehension and understanding, or cherry-picking for the sake of gathering evidence to support a political agenda? I've done the former (but I've been guilty of the latter in times past)

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-wright%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cgod-damn-america%E2%80%9D-sermon/

Playing word games doesn't change anything YT. The letter contains mandates that which the Catholic Church considers to be sin. The Chaplains are threatened with charges if they read it in it's complete form......Which would include the part they consider to be a sin.

Now, one can weasel around with words and try to make it sound like it's something else, but how about we be honest and call a shovel a shovel?

[KIMBER45]

As I stated before- If all the Christian religions were to do what the Catholic Church is doing, the results would be alot quicker coming. Where are these anti-babykilling religions? And why is no one here critizing those religions?

[BUGEYE]

As I stated before- If all the Christian religions were to do what the Catholic Church is doing, the results would be alot quicker coming. Where are these anti-babykilling religions? And why is no one here critizing those religions?

I said in another thread that I was with the catholics on this one.  my Church doesn't have a central headquarters so I don't expect to hear much from them.  but baptists, methodists etc. have an organization that should be speaking out.  on the other hand, I'm sure that most religions are represented by those congress-people who are against obama on this issue.

[Dixie Dude]

Yellowtail.  I don't care what the lying CNN has to say.  My wife downloaded the sermon.  He said because of what America has done to the blacks and forcing other people around the world to be like us, that gd America, he repeated it 3 times.  Go to his church website, I don't have it here at work, but download it for youself.  It is a Black Liberation type church that hates anything white.  Rev. Wright even had the Muslim black leader, can't remember his name now, speak at his church.  Any church I've ever been in will not have a speaker that goes against the doctrine of their church. 
 
When the government tells chruches what they should and should not do or be doing, it is control, pure and simple.  Socialists, liberals, and Democrats want control over our lives.  They want us to accept everything that comes down the pike, no regard for whether it is right or wrong, and when anyone, especially christians speak out against something, they are considered intolerant.  Where is the tolerance of the Muslims for Christians in their countries.  This goes against seperation of church and state. 

[KIMBER45]

As I stated before- If all the Christian religions were to do what the Catholic Church is doing, the results would be alot quicker coming. Where are these anti-babykilling religions? And why is no one here criticizing those religions?

I said in another thread that I was with the catholics on this one.  my Church doesn't have a central headquarters so I don't expect to hear much from them.  but baptists, methodists etc. have an organization that should be speaking out.  on the other hand, I'm sure that most religions are represented by those congress-people who are against obama on this issue.

Our diocese had letters printed and ready for us to sign when we got to mass on Sunday. They were mailed to our local representatives. Spread the word to do the same.

[BUGEYE]

As I stated before- If all the Christian religions were to do what the Catholic Church is doing, the results would be alot quicker coming. Where are these anti-babykilling religions? And why is no one here criticizing those religions?

I said in another thread that I was with the catholics on this one.  my Church doesn't have a central headquarters so I don't expect to hear much from them.  but baptists, methodists etc. have an organization that should be speaking out.  on the other hand, I'm sure that most religions are represented by those congress-people who are against obama on this issue.

Our diocese had letters printed and ready for us to sign when we got to mass on Sunday. They were mailed to our local representatives. Spread the word to do the same.

I spend a lot of time e-mailing my rep and senators, I'll add this issue to my list.