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Offline Jason F

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30 carbine handi
« on: February 15, 2012, 02:24:33 PM »
what would be a good twist to use for the 30 carbine,i gotta try stubbing one now ,got lots of brass and dies,pawn shop usually has lots of shotguns for about 60 bucks each
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 02:32:32 PM »
If I àm not mistaken, I do believe most Military Guns were a 1:20 twist rate.... That was for 110 gr bullets though. :)
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 02:34:01 PM »
i was just looking on green mountain barrel blank they got pretty good prices on 30 cal, blanks
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 02:34:44 PM »
I've done several of them, use a 300 win Mag take off barrel, they work perfect and are a dime a dozen, I have a reamer.  They are a lot of fun to shoot and if you use the fast twist win mag barrel you can shoot subsonic 180gr cast from them.  Larry
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 02:47:29 PM »
Does green mountain sell those
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2012, 02:56:08 PM »
Where are you finding them?
Quote from: trotterlg on February 15, 2012, 02:34:44 PM
I've done several of them, use a 300 win Mag take off barrel, they work perfect and are a dime a dozen, I have a reamer.  They are a lot of fun to shoot and if you use the fast twist win mag barrel you can shoot subsonic 180gr cast from them.  Larry
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2012, 02:57:36 PM »
There are dozens of 300 Win Mag Remington barrels for sale, for some reason people take the off the rifles all the time.  Them or 300 WSSM barrels, do a search on ebay for take off barrel or rifle barrel and you will find a lot, mostly for about $45.00 delivered to you.  GM does have some good deals also, but a used Remington barrel will be your best deal.  Larry
 
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2012, 03:02:24 PM »
Plug "300 rifle barrel" into ebay search and see what you get.  Put "takeoff barrel" into gunbroker and check.  Larry
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2012, 03:06:12 PM »
There is a few of them on there now ending soon
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2012, 03:09:11 PM »
Green Mountain new 22" 7.62 NATO air gauged barrel for $35.00

http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/productdetail.aspx?id=M-308C
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2012, 03:11:48 PM »
Thats 1.25" you would have to turn that one down for stub
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Re: 30 carbine handi
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 03:16:21 PM »
What is size of 12 gauge chamber
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Re: 30 carbine handi
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 03:38:03 PM »
Larry (trotterlg), do you think the twist rate of the .300 Win Mag barrels would shoot mil surp .30 Cal 110 grain carbine ammo accurately or satisfactorily, or do you think the 110 grain bullets would be too light....<><.... :)
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Re: 30 carbine handi
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2012, 03:48:22 PM »
If reloading, especially with cast, it would work just fine.
 
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http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/productdetail.aspx?id=AK-BLANK
this one too

Um this barrel is for AK .311 dia. bullets, not .308.  The correct blank for .308 bullets would be:
http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/productdetail.aspx?id=7.62X51-BLANK
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2012, 03:56:41 PM »
Think I'd stick to std. dia. but whatever the OP wants to do.  Nice to be able to buy off the shelf .308 bullets designed for the M1 Carbine like Hornady's Semi-jacketed bullet I use.  ;)  Course the Handi Platform would open up use of other pointier bullets that would not feed in a std. M1-Carbine too.  ;)
 
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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601456621/remington-bullets-30-carbine-308-diameter-110-grain-soft-point
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601216916/remington-bullets-30-carbine-308-diameter-110-grain-full-metal-jacket
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2012, 04:04:20 PM »
That is the good thing about reloading, you can experiment with all kinds of different loads.
If you are out just plinking, it doesn't hurt to use bullets that are .002 too small.
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2012, 12:40:02 PM »
Quote from: MSP Ret on February 15, 2012, 03:38:03 PM
Larry (trotterlg), do you think the twist rate of the .300 Win Mag barrels would shoot mil surp .30 Cal 110 grain carbine ammo accurately or satisfactorily, or do you think the 110 grain bullets would be too light....<><.... :)

Larry, or anyone else out there with any expierence in this, what is your opinion of the twist rate of a .300 Win Mag barrel (? what is that twist rate anyway?) and shooting 110 grain standard mil surp .30 cal carbine ammo out of it? Would it stabilize the bullets?...Thanks....<><....:)
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2012, 12:55:45 PM »
I think the 300 is 1/10, so it would be actually too fast, but I dont know if you can "overstabilize" a bullet, besides, the carbine is so much slower than a 300 it would offset it some. I think it would probably work just fine.
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2012, 01:00:47 PM »
SAAMI twist spec for the 30 Carbine is 1:20".

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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2012, 02:29:19 PM »
You won't be shooting it past about 100 yards anyway, and the 10 twist works just fine, you can even load 180gr cast and shoot it subsonic.  Larry
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Re: 30 carbine handi
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2012, 03:48:15 PM »
You should be just fine with the 1:10 .308.  I've used reduced loads with light bullets in .308 down to "around" 2200 fps, in 1:10, and they shoot well.  Seems like Remington 721's, 700's and the pre-64 70's used a 1-12 twist, if you think that the slower twist is an advantage. 
I'm pulling the barrel off a Vanguard chambered to .300 Weatherby to make a .300 H&H on the action.  (I have NO use for the Weatherby cartridges, and have more than a thousand new H&H cases)  I suspect that those various .300 whatever Mag barrels came off for projects, especially back when everyone HAD to have a 416 of some flavor.
Another excellent source of 30 caliber barrels are take-off 1903 and A3 barrels, and generally, can be had for a song if they've been cut back.  New-old-stock, in the wrap GI barrels are pushing $250 these days, but sportered barrels go for dirt.
Nice to see someone else considering the "pre-AAC Blackout" .30 caliber round!
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