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Re: Another pit bull attack, woman may lose arm.
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2012, 02:28:21 PM »
i have killed more pitbulls than i have cats....and i have killed alot of cats.   






Lot of killer cat's where your from huh?
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Re: Another pit bull attack, woman may lose arm.
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2012, 01:02:07 AM »
Lot of killer cat's where your from huh?

yup.   cats kill an untold number of songbirds and small game.   feral cats dont belong, and pets should be kept under control.    if people let their dogs do what they let their cats do, they would be fined.   for some reason, they get away with letting their cats roam and kill.   i dont get excited over it, i just fix it.   your cat will only come on my property once. 

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Re: Another pit bull attack, woman may lose arm.
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2012, 01:37:02 AM »
As a child I was terrorized by our neighbors pit bull.  If we were to go behind dad's garage (which is where he had us a big dirt pile to play on) she would jump their fence and chase us.  Most of the time me and my little brother could make it into the house or garage to get on top of moms car and scream until my mom would chase it off.  Dad told them that if it were to jump the fence again he would kill it.  They tied it to a leash on their back porch.  I went outside one day to play and it saw me, jumped over the railing of their porch and hung itself.  I was probably 10 years old and made no move to ease that dogs suffering.  It probably choked for about 30 mins before it died and I watched it the whole time without flinching or feeling sorry for it. 
 
I actually smiled.
 
That was my first experience ever with a pit bull.  Since then I kill any that come into contact with me.  Agressive or not.  I don't hate many things but a Pit Bull dog gets a bullet every time.
 
 
 
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Re: Another pit bull attack, woman may lose arm.
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2012, 02:54:48 AM »
Lot of killer cat's where your from huh?

yup.   cats kill an untold number of songbirds and small game.   

Amen to that!
The way I see it; there is a shortage of food to some people who legitimately can't feed their families yet we spend millions on feeding "man made" animals (domestic dogs and cats) that are really not needed in this world.  Top that off, after they eat their fill of food that's wasted upon them, then they just leave piles of crap on the ground where our kids play.
Get rid of em all as far as I'm concerned!   

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Re: Another pit bull attack, woman may lose arm.
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2012, 03:42:04 AM »
I've hunted feral cats, and they are not cute little kittys. They are a real nuisance that cause a lot of problems. They are a problem in a lot of areas where it doesn't get cold enough to kill them during the winter and there aren't enough predators to thin them out.

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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2012, 08:45:49 AM »
I set traps in the back yard to catch Fox and Martin.  Catch more cats than I do Foxes.  Oh well, They are usually dead by the time I get there, if not oh well.  I let all the neighbors know not to let their cats, or dogs roam loose, they might get in a trap.  During the summer I use live traps, same results, dead cat.  I also shoot them with a .17HMR.  Unless they fall in the mowed portion of the yard, I just let them lay.  They disappear real quick Ravens have a feast.  Usually one will pick it up and fly off with it.  Neighborhood kids get a lesson in what a bird can do to fluffy, as the old Raven sits on a post and slowly eats the cat.
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« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2012, 11:18:01 AM »
I thought the Chinese restaurants kind of took care of the cat population for us.
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Re: Another pit bull attack, woman may lose arm.
« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2012, 03:20:50 PM »
Me and my hunting bud has one simple rule when calling predators, if we ever call in a rotweiller, pitbull, or doberman- collar on or not- its an immediate 3 Ss (shoot, shovel, and shut up).   I just dont play with these three types of dogs. 
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Re: Another pit bull attack, woman may lose arm.
« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2012, 05:15:01 PM »
i havent seen widespread problems with rottweilers...or dobermans.   not to say i havent crossed paths with them occasionally, i have.   but most times those breeds stay where they are supposed to be.   pits jump fences, escape from cars, and raise hell all over the place.   and i see them EVERYWHERE.    i get so tired of seeing them, it makes my trigger finger itch. 

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« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2012, 02:01:41 PM »

Here is some information on Dog bites and fatalities in 2011.
At the end of this piece, you'll see a comparison of Resident dog's and family dog's.


Resident dog would be used to describe the dog kept by Sourdough's Grandfather. Kept away from human bonding.These are the dog's that are going to cause most of the problems.Even a Cocker Spaniel would be  prone to bite under these conditions. Thing is.....The pitt has a much stronger bite, and do more damage if they are biters.



NCRC Preliminary Report on Dog Bite-Related Fatalities in 2011
Overview
Dog bite-related fatalities have always been exceedingly rare, yet they can attract the kind of publicity
that creates an impression they are more prevalent than they actually are.  NCRC is currently
investigating 31 incidents in a dog population of over 78 million that occurred during 2011 that may
qualify as dog bite-related fatalities. A final tally is subject to change as a result of NCRC investigations.*
A number of cases have very little information available as they remain the subject of ongoing
investigations. While 10 fatalities have already resulted in criminal indictments, several others are still
under investigation by authorities. This report is preliminary to the final report which will be available in
the first week of 2013. NCRC’s final report for 2010 is now available here.
NCRC continues to assemble the most accurate and comprehensive information available. Based on
NCRC's 20 years of experience investigating dog bite-related fatalities, the initial media reports will be
supplemented or corrected with relevant, material information in over 90% of these incidents.
Setting the record straight
Official reports often do not agree with news accounts and/or contain important information that was
either unavailable, or not of interest, to reporters at the time of the incident.
News reports published in the moment usually refer to the dogs involved as “family” dogs, implying that
these were dogs whose owners interacted with them on a regular basis in positive and humane ways.
Later investigation shows that most of the dogs involved in these incidents were “resident” dogs -
victims of isolation, and often abuse or neglect.  NCRC's preliminary findings for 2011 are consistent with
findings concerning the dog bite-related fatalities of years past. In 2010, the news media initially
described the dogs in 29 of 33 (88%) dog bite-related fatalities as “family” pets, but investigations
disclose that only 7 (21%) were family pets, but investigations
disclose that only 7 (21%) were family pets.**
The news media regularly describe dogs as members of specific breeds. Yet, NCRC’s investigations over
the years show that a majority of the breed descriptors assigned by the news media cannot be
documented or otherwise considered reasonable (through pedigree, DNA or otherwise).  For example,
NCRC investigations of the dog bite-related fatalities in 2010 showed that in only eleven of the cases
could the breed descriptors assigned to the dogs be documented, or otherwise considered reasonable.
Eight different kinds of dogs were identified in those eleven incidents. The breed composition of all the
other dogs was indeterminate, whatever the news media reported about them. In fact, in three cases in
2010, news stories identified dogs and attributed breeds to those dogs that detectives later determined www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com Page 2
were NOT the dogs involved in the incident. The dog(s) responsible were never identified or captured.
News outlets, having moved on to other, pressing issues, never corrected this.   


 Conclusion
There is no scientific evidence that one kind of dog is more likely to injure a human being than another
kind of dog. There is no evidence that, absent circumstances specifically associated with mating or
maternal protectiveness, a dog being intact should be understood as a cause of aggressive behavior
toward human beings. And for every “resident” dog that injured a human being, multitudes sadly
similarly kept injured no one.
Yet, as NCRC’s mission is to preserve the human-canine bond, these  rare tragedies serve as a reminder
that all dog owners have an unequivocal responsibility for the humane care (including proper diet,
veterinary care, socialization and training), custody (including licensing and micro-chipping), and control
of their dogs.






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A RESIDENT DOG
Resident dogs are dogs whose owners maintain them
exclusively on chains, in kennels, or in yards; and/or obtain
them for negative functions (such as guarding, fighting,
protection, and irresponsible breeding). Because resident
dogs are maintained in ways that isolate them from regular,
positive human interactions, they cannot be expected to
exhibit the same behavior as family dogs.
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A FAMILY DOG
Family dogs are dogs whose owners afford them
opportunities to learn appropriate behavior and to interact
with humans on a regular basis in positive and humane
ways, and who give them the tools necessary to live
harmoniously in our world.
Windsor as a resident dog
Windsor as a family dog
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Re: Another pit bull attack, woman may lose arm.
« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2012, 03:19:31 PM »
nw– hunter.  Good post.  As I said earlier, most bad dogs are that way as a result of a bad owner.  I have worked with a lot of dogs over the years and can truthfully there was no specific breed any worst that another.  People fear big dogs with a big bite and those are the ones that normally get the bad publicity, the pit, the Rot, Doberman and German Shepard.

I remember a conversation several years ago with an emergency room doctor, he said, “most bites I see are from little dogs, mostly house pets.”  Any dog will bite; the most damage is from the big ones.

In my experience the dog most apt to bite is those described as “Resident Dogs.”  If the animal is not properly trained and socialized it doesn’t know any other way to act, it just acts on instinct.  Folks who give “Little Johnny a puppy and don’t see that it is trained and cared for properly might as well give him a gun, someone is going to get hurt either way.

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Re: Another pit bull attack, woman may lose arm.
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2012, 04:53:31 PM »
A couple of days ago the cops chased a guy to his house in Lou, he got to his door and siced his pit on them, one officer bitten several times, the other shot and killed the dog, scum went to jail, cop to the hospitol. POWDERMAN. :o :o
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Re: Another pit bull attack, woman may lose arm.
« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2012, 06:54:07 PM »
myronman3:  I agree about the Pitts.  The breed has been selectively bred for fighting and to be aggressive for too long.


I agree, We should also separate dogs most likely to Bite or nip,  from dogs most likely to Kill.

There was a 20 year study to determine which dog breeds are more likely to actually kill human beings. The study was done between 1979 through 1998. The study tracked 238 human deaths from dog attacks during a 20 year period. Pit Bull and Pit Bull mixes were responsible for a disproportionate amount of human deaths 66. The Rottweiler and Rottweiler mixes were responsible for 39 human deaths. The German Shepherd dog and mix were responsible for 17 human deaths. The Husky type dog was responsible for 15 human deaths as was the Malamute responsible for 12 human deaths. while the Doberman was responsible for 9 human deaths and The Chow Chow was responsible for 8 deaths.

From my own personal experience , The breeds I will not leave around small children unsupervised are Pitts , Rotties , Chows.
and Dalmatians and Terriers have proven to me to be real nippers of kids.

Now Are they all bad listed in the study above, of course not . I never met a Rottie I didn't like, I wouldn't hesitate to own one, nor a husky, or shepherd etc. but just due to a large dogs physical size, power , and muscle , I would never leave any large dog cited in the study above around small kids unsupervised.

Pits breed on the other hand have proven (at least to me) to me to be ticking time Bombs and with Pit Bull and Pit Bull mixes responsible for a disproportionate amount of human deaths that can be proved in known studies tells me , they have been inbred to the point they have devolved for whatever the reason,  and should be eradicated. Tey are unfortunately as a breed no longer mans best friend.
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Re: Another pit bull attack, woman may lose arm.
« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2012, 04:06:22 PM »
i hate chow chows every bit as much as pits.   shar pais are bad news, too.  pure friggen evil.   shepards and rotts are easy enough to read.   pits, chows, and shar pais are next to impossible and snap without warning.   if you ever see it happen, you will never forget it.
 

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« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2012, 11:57:08 AM »
Pit bulls are just targets around where I live.
I cannot stand them Myself.
But ANY breed can be made "BAD" by their owner!
Meanest dog I ever encountered was a Chihuahua.
Little snot bit me on the nose.
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Re: Another pit bull attack, woman may lose arm.
« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2012, 12:07:27 PM »
Pit bulls are just targets around where I live.
I cannot stand them Myself.
But ANY breed can be made "BAD" by their owner!
Meanest dog I ever encountered was a Chihuahua.
Little snot bit me on the nose.






LOL!I always knew those lil Devils could jump ;)  Sorry!, but I thought of Peter Sellers in the Pink Panther, when I read your post. He asked a guy in the movie if his little dog would bite, and when the guy said 'NO" he reached down to pet it, and"It bit him" The guy said.....It's not my dog :)
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