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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2012, 04:39:02 PM »
its called ''buckshot'' for some reason


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swears by  #4  and head shots....he mostly   hunted ahead of dogs in N florida


my dad swore by #1......hunter/medical examiner...he said  not enough OO to suit him #4 too small


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My first deer, a nice 9-point buck and the only deer I ever shot with buckshot, was shot at a distance of about 50 yards, which was too far.  My first shot was with #4 buck.  He turned and ran and I commenced pumping and shooting with 00 buck.  He really didn't go far.  When we dressed him we found one #4 shot in his heart and one 00 buck in his backside.  The rear-end shot would not have hurt him much at all.  Moral of the story:  he was too far for buckshot and I was very lucky to get him.  My next several bucks were shot with a 6mm Remington, which was, by the way, extremely effective and efficient.
This was in front of dogs in Mississippi a lot of years ago.

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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2012, 05:27:38 PM »
what choke is everyone using?
is that why you like or don't like b-shot?
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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2012, 07:46:24 PM »
since Ky does not allow hunting with buckshot, my shooting with that type load is from an 18" cylinder bore (no choke) defensive gun.  20 yard patterns pretty well cover the torso of a man sized target.

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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2012, 11:44:39 PM »
The NRA said that a medium choke was best and I found that to be the case.  The full damages the shot too much.
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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2012, 01:35:31 AM »
I posted a few days ago asking why are fighting shotguns cylinder bore.  I got some feedback saying shotguns aren't good at longer distances.  I don't have a lot of experience with buckshot.  I killed one hog at 25 yards with a cylinder bore shooting 00 winchester buckshot.  3-4 pellets hit him in the head and neck.  This was an instant kill.  What kind of patterns are you getting at 40-50 yards?  How did it perform?  Here is a pattern I shot with my 19" cylinder barrel H&R single shot using federal flight control.  This buckshot only has 12 00 pellets.  Pattern was shot at 40 yards.  I estimate a 16" vertical spread  with  a 10" horizontal.  Most pellets were in a 10-12" cluster. 


 
 
Ok I admit to nopt reading all post. But I have hunted with buck shot since age 11 , 46 years ago. It is law in many places I hunt and pratical in others. I started with a bird gun . then a Browning A-5 buck speical , cyl bore. Today its either a SX-2 turkey gun with a custom tube or a 870 with a custom tube both will take deer at 60+ yards . At 40 yards you can cover the pattern with a ball cap. There are good gun smiths who can make many guns shoot this well. We shoot alot of deer being run by dogs a shotgun is a great aid to such in the woods and briers of Va.
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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2012, 02:57:39 AM »
  My uncle who has now passed away, hunted deer with buckshot his whole life.  I know for a fact that he shot well over 150 deer with buckshot.  And this was in the old days, when deer were harder to come by, at least around here...
 
  He used 00 buck, and he patterened his shotguns until he found one that would pattern 00 well,  beyond 50 yards.  He had no problem killing whitetails at 70 yards.  He put his max "forsure" range at 80 yards but he knew he wouldn't drop them in their tracks at longer ranges, although some did.
 
  Many years ago my dad used buckshot quite a bit, as did us kids, all with good success, although we kept our ranges to 40 or so yards.  My dad ALSO took great pains to pattern his shotguns to see what the max range THAT shotgun would keep THAT load in the kill zone.  My dad also spent a lot of time handloading custom buckshot loads trying to get better patterns at longer ranges.
 
  There's nothing wrong with buckshot, it's like rifles, bows and handguns, it's the person behind the gun that's the problem!  MOST take any shotgun and any buckshot and go hunting!  Those saying to use a tight choke with 00 buckshot are living proof!  RARELY will a tight choke pattern 00 or any bigger buckshot well.  If folks took the time to pattern it, they would already know this.
 
  Lastly, i learned something from my dad and uncle as a kid, and that is, where to aim with buckshot!  Us kids learned early on, on anything but quite close shots at deer, you should wait for a side shot and then ain half way between the head and shoulder of the deer!  As the shot moves away from the gun, it starts spreading out, and with the aiming point half way between the head and shoulder, most of the shot will go into the ribs and head of the deer.
 
  Pattern "your" gun with "your" ammo, and see at what ranges, where to aim, or don't use buckshot on deer!!  IF you aren't willing to do that, then i agree with the anti buckshot crowd here...
 
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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2012, 03:30:32 AM »
Excellent post Drilling Man!!! Great advise. :)

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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2012, 04:23:41 PM »
I agree with Drilling Man.  There is nothing wrong with buckshot; there is something wrong with taking shots beyond the effective range of a buckshot load.  It's the same with my personal choice of a hunting bow:  a recurve.  I limit my shots to 25 yards, preferably less.  So what if someone can shoot a compound accurately at greater distances.  Same with my current choices of deer rifles:  .30/30, .44 magnum, and .357 magnum.  They're all deadly within their effective range. 

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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2012, 04:28:01 PM »
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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2012, 05:47:10 PM »
since i posted on this thread i have gained abit of experience with buckshot. i have bought 2 pump 20ga guns, a maverick 88 and a browning bps. both new. i bought 2 turkey chokes for the maverick. a tightwad from primos and a turkey extended from carlsons. for the browning i only bought the tightwad. with some patterning i found both guns would print 12 or 14 of 18 #2 buck in a 22"x22" newspaper at 50 yds. #2 lead shot at the same yds gave me 55/60% hits on the same paper. i mostly wanted a light varmint/carry gun for walking and snowshoeing. very happy with both guns and with the loads i have used. also patterned #4 birdshot, #7.5 birdshot, and foster slugs. i have also shot several coons and other varmints like skunks and groundhogs beavers and squirrels. recently shot a bear, 100 lb, with a 2.75" #3 buckshot thru the tightwad choke. very quick kill at short range. it was walking directly toward me at 12 yds. head/neck shot that was instant. the patterns are what gives me confidence in the shots i take.
recently bought some brenneke slugs to pattern. hopeful to use them this fall
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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2012, 06:24:30 PM »
   Lastly, i learned something from my dad and uncle as a kid, and that is, where to aim with buckshot!  Us kids learned early on, on anything but quite close shots at deer, you should wait for a side shot and then ain half way between the head and shoulder of the deer!  As the shot moves away from the gun, it starts spreading out, and with the aiming point half way between the head and shoulder, most of the shot will go into the ribs and head of the deer.
 
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Halfway betewwn the head and shoulder is where I said to aim for which is the Neck...lol

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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2012, 03:31:55 AM »
   Lastly, i learned something from my dad and uncle as a kid, and that is, where to aim with buckshot!  Us kids learned early on, on anything but quite close shots at deer, you should wait for a side shot and then ain half way between the head and shoulder of the deer!  As the shot moves away from the gun, it starts spreading out, and with the aiming point half way between the head and shoulder, most of the shot will go into the ribs and head of the deer.
 
    DM

Halfway betewwn the head and shoulder is where I said to aim for which is the Neck...lol

  Half way between the head and shoulders IS the neck, but it's ALSO where to aim on the neck!
 
  Don't forget the line i put that also said,
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Pattern "your" gun with "your" ammo, and see at what ranges, where to aim,

  You don't aim at the neck at CLOSE range...
 
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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2012, 04:48:47 PM »
When I wanted to see where to aim for deer and buck shot I grabbed a saw horse a few grocery paper sacks and a couple boxes of 00 buck, a staple gun, and my shotgun.  I stapled the groccery sack to the top of the saw horse and walked off 10 yards and used the leg of the saw horse as the fron leg and shot.  Seeing where the load lands and then changed the sack and moved back to see where I needed to aim.
I suggest doing the same.  The paper sack gives you a 3 D verson of about a deers body.

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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2012, 03:56:44 AM »
I must agree that buckshot can, in some guns, pattern well enough to use at over 40 yards.  My philosophy, at least in my guns, is to restrict it to bowhunting range.  #1 buck patterns well in my Mossberg 500, but scatters wildly from my Mossberg 835.  It's best to try several sizes & brands to see which one your gun likes.  I think long shots with buckshot send a lot of deer off to die a slow death, with buckshot in the gut.  For every deer killed at long range with buckshot, I wonder how many escape to die days later.
I also worry about the safety factor, since buckshot is often used in the South on drives, with dogs or human drivers.  I've been buzzed (near misses) by another hunter's buckshot on two occasions.

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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2012, 07:46:42 AM »
Back in my youth, most deer hunting in Eastern NC was done with dogs and everyone used buckshot.  I expect I have taken 50 deer with buckshot and lost a few as well.  My best shotgun was a 3" model 1100 with a 30" full choke.  I shot 1s, 00s, and 000,s.  I liked the 000 load best.   Within 50 yds I normally got the deer.
Mack stated that is is necessary to lead running deer.  I learned this graphically one day when a nice deer popped out of the woods and ran flat out across a field or newly cut corn.  Following each shot, I could see and hear shucks fly behind the deer.  On the fifth shot, I lead the deer a full length and folded it with a 000 pellet in the head at 75 yds.

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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2012, 02:31:15 PM »
i look at my shotguns and buckshot as a 50 yd proposition for coyotes or other varmints. probably for bigger animals i would only want the buckshot to about 30 yds.  i know the pattern is still tight enough at that distance to get several hits on a deers' or bears' neck area
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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2012, 08:18:16 AM »
I have no problem sahooting deer to 50 yards or a tad more. I shoot a custom tube in a 870 and have for 20 years.
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Re: Hunting with buckshot whats your opinion?
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2012, 11:24:11 AM »
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Excellent post Drilling Man!!! Great advise. :)

 
 
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