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Offline NYRebel13

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Which handi for whitetails
« on: February 21, 2012, 04:05:40 PM »
Which of these 3 would be better for whitetails, 30-30, .357mag, or 7.62x39?  All 3 have open sights and this would be my shorter range rifle since I already have a .308 bolt action for long range.  I have been wanting a .357 Handi to go with my revolver.  Would I be limited to higher priced commercial ammo for the 7.62 or is milsurp or wolf accurate in one?  Does the .357 gain velocity in the longer barrel?
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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 04:13:00 PM »
All 3 will work fine for whitetail at reasonable ranges. Since you already have a 357 revolver that would be my choice of the 3 you listed.
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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2012, 04:35:45 PM »
The thing is, I already have the 30-30 but have been wanting a 357.  I can't afford to get one without selling the 30-30 or at least the barrel to help pay for it.  My father has a Winchester 94 in 30-30 I can use and will become mine eventually.  Is there any advantage to the 357 over the 30-30?  I know it can be reamed to 357 max but I don't reload so that isn't an option.  I guess I may be overthinking things since I got a lead on a .357 that may be for sale in my area and that was on my list of wants.
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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2012, 05:13:03 PM »
You said short range, .357 would be fun because you can save money and plink with .38 ammo and then sight and hunt with .357 mag.  I think the per shot price would be cheaper than the other 2 guns. And if you are keeping to the short range plan it will kill deer just fine.
But the 30-30 you have will kill em good too....  ::)  Lot of help I am.
Good luck with your delema, if you could save up and get the other barrel I would say try to keep the 30-30 until you know you like the next barrel but that did not sound like an option.
I think all three are excellent short range rifles.   thejanitor
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2012, 05:20:25 PM »
The .357 gains significant velocity in the longer barrels. Google "ballistics by the inch" and look at their data (from actual chrony tests) to see how much. Even when not in the Max, it is a deer killer. If you're looking at short range brush shooting the .357 Talo is a good choice.
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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2012, 08:31:59 PM »
for up close work I always prefer the larger diameter bore.  So yes I would want the .357 over the 30/30.  If you decide you must sell the 30/30 barrel send me a pm, but with a bit of effort you can usually get a good deal on used Handi's

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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2012, 11:42:59 PM »
I agree with the guys, The 357 is roughly equivalent to the 30-30 when fired form a longer rifle tube. Many here used one for deer with very good success this year alone!
 
Not handloading does not rule out the Maxi as factory loads are avalible from Reeds. PLUS this could pave the way to your reloading!
 
Truth be told, ANY of the calibers, with propper bullets, will do the job for you.
 
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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 12:31:08 AM »
If you can get one I would go with the 7.62x39. Mill ammo has had its issues but amarican made brass cased ammo is available and shoots well. When compaired to the 30-30 and .357 it losses in surface area. That said loaded with 130-150 grain bullets its energy and lack of recoil is a plus if you will be using open sights. Dont get me wrong though they will all work and i have all 3. Wish I had more arms to carry more guns with me when I go hunting. I hate to leave one at home. Good luck on your choice.
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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 01:45:53 AM »
I say stay with the .30-30.  No extra $ to spend since you already have it.  If you ever reload you can do so much more with the Handi .30-30 then the lever action.  I doubt my .30-30 loads will even cycle through the lever action and you sure wouldn't want those spire point bullets in your magazine.  Bullet weight of either will be about the same so the .30 will have more sectional density then the .357 and keep its velocity up longer when the shot is not that close.  Of course the lure of another barrel or gun is already pulling you.
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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2012, 01:58:36 AM »
I would go with the .357 and ream it to Maximum.  Sight in and practice with .38s and mags.  Adjust your sights and hunt with the Maxis, which as CW said are available.

I don't know how old you are, but I encourage you to start reloading as soon as possible.  I'm going to give you a somewhat extreme, but very real example using quality components:

Ammo for my .356 is locally priced at 55 bucks a box.  That is 2.75 a shot.

Buying brass and loading a quality bullet and powder the first time costs 1.50 a shot.

If I reload the brass six times, the price drops to 80 cents a shot or 16 bucks a box, a savings of 39.00 a box.

A few boxes loaded pays for the basic equipment.

Good luck with whatever you choose.

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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 03:26:01 AM »
Like you said you have your dads 30-30 you can hunt with and will become yours one day, sounds like you already want the 357 and if you dont get it you may regret it that being said if you got a line on the 7.62 barrel and like that cal. I'm not sure but I havent seen that many around and they still make the 357.
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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2012, 04:12:55 AM »
Forget the rifle and buy a reloading set. Midway has the Lee set on sale for under $100.
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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2012, 04:27:49 AM »
My choice between the three would be a .357 Mag.
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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2012, 04:45:05 AM »
I'd stick with the 30-30.  That way you and your Dad use the same shells.  Can be a life saver when you get to your hunting spot and one of you forgot your shells.
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Re: Which handi for whitetails
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2012, 05:19:22 AM »
Quote from: Sourdough on February 22, 2012, 04:45:05 AM
I'd stick with the 30-30.  That way you and your Dad use the same shells.  Can be a life saver when you get to your hunting spot and one of you forgot your shells.

It would be nice to go huting with my dad but I don't think he has gone hunting in over 10 years.  I have been trying to get that gun in my cabinet for a few years.  I had a dream last night that I finally got it so maybe for my birthday next week it'll be mine.  It's nothing special, just a 94 angle eject 20" barrel no safety, but I like to keep that sort of thing in the family.  I just don't want my brother in law to get it, he won't appreciate it like I do.
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