Lost a big boar at 50 yrds broad side with a Dan Wesson using 158 gr xtp his back legs kicked backout from under him he regained his footing, the last time i saw him he was doing at least 25mph.Lost another with a 300 gnr 125 gr sierra 10 yrds closer same result.Just did a test soaked 6in of phone bookes in water they swelled to about 11 first shot a 180 gr xtp 19 gr 296 at 20 yards it stopped about a half in. shy from passing through it expanded to.525 and only lost 10 grains of weight.Then i used a 170 gr sierra silhouette F.M.J it passed through wish i had more books i really wanted to see just how far that one would have penetrated.