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Marine refuses plea deal in nyc gun case.
« on: February 22, 2012, 12:03:37 PM »
Marine Refuses Plea Deal in NYC Gun Possession Case     121  New York City’s totalitarian gun laws strike again — and this time, authorities are going after a member of the armed services.
Ryan Jerome, a 28-year-old former Marine and New York jeweler from West Bend, Ind., has refused to enter a plea deal after being charged with felony possession of a handgun, garnering support from fellow Marines and Second Amendment supporters.
According to The New York Post, Jerome bought the legally registered .45-cal Ruger to New York while transporting $15,000 worth of gold to a Long Island refinery. He was arrested during a visit to the Empire State Building while alerting guards to the firearm, per the instructions of a sign that said all weapons must be checked in.
Prosecutors have offered Jerome a misdemeanor deal with no jail time in exchange for a guilty plea, but Jerome won’t budge, arguing that he does not deserve a criminal record and seeks to have the charges dropped entirely.
“The New York District Attorney’s Office is offering to allow your client to plead guilty to a single Class ‘A’ misdemeanor in full satisfaction of all charges,” wrote lead prosecutor Joseph Davis in a letter to Jerome’s lawyer, Mark Bederow. “This plea deal is made available to your client with the understanding that should he decide to accept said offer, he would be sentenced to pay a fine of $1,000.00 and required to perform 10 days of community service at a place both parties could agree was appropriate.”
Handgun possession is a felony in New York City regardless of whether the gun is legally registered anywhere else. The maximum sentence faced is 3 1/2 years in prison, but prosecutors usually offer plea deals in such cases.
How strange that Mayor Michael Bloomberg claims to support the Second Amendment, yet has no problem allowing a law that infringes on the rights of law-abiding citizens — a former Marine, no less.
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Re: Marine refuses plea deal in nyc gun case.
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 04:49:08 PM »
I don't see how being a Marine affects this case. NYC laws suck, but they suck for everyone, and being a jarhead doesn't make one any more worthy to carry a firearms (or all that much more competent to shoot one)
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Re: Marine refuses plea deal in nyc gun case.
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 06:09:05 PM »
I don't see how being a Marine affects this case. NYC laws suck, but they suck for everyone, and being a jarhead doesn't make one any more worthy to carry a firearms (or all that much more competent to shoot one)

I totally disagree...that "jarhead" has had better training than anyone is gonna get in your typical CCW class.
But you knew that...just stirring things up a bit, aren't you?
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Re: Marine refuses plea deal in nyc gun case.
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2012, 12:45:17 AM »
I totally disagree...that "jarhead" has had better training than anyone is gonna get in your typical CCW class.
(shrug) well, if a CCW class is the totality of of a citizen's experience with firearms, that may be. Anyhow... he's still no more worthy to possess a firearm than you or I. NYC gun-grabbers/polyticians aren't concerned with how well we know our manual of arms.

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Re: Marine refuses plea deal in nyc gun case.
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 03:15:52 AM »
YT, could be that his ''jarhead'' training did/or did not, give him extra training with a firearm. One thing it did do, is give him a set of ''stones'', to stick up for his right to defend himself. gypsyman
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Re: Marine refuses plea deal in nyc gun case.
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 03:59:24 AM »
Good to see that 3 of us out of 4 support the marine. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: Marine refuses plea deal in nyc gun case.
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 04:03:39 AM »
Good to see that 3 of us out of 4 support the marine. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
make that 4 out of 5.
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Re: Marine refuses plea deal in nyc gun case.
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2012, 04:49:39 AM »
I do morally support the Marine for sticking to what he believes is right, AND MAYBE HIS SACRIFICE WILL bring attention However,  that said,  he is probably going to lose this one lawfully in the courts and the penalties can be very still stiff. I have to agree with YT on this one. NY and NYC gun laws suck, and they suck for everyone across the board.

NY gun laws are some of the strictest in the US, and NYC are even worse than NY state itself.
If folks don't like the laws in NYC they need to apply pressure to have them changed.

As crappy as it sounds , he should take the plea bargain, or try and negotiate a better deal. Or perhaps with enough national attention NYC may just want it to all go away quietly if it is in NYC political best interest. But I seriously doubt it,  and they may do just the opposite hold this marine up as an example all are treated equally under NYC law.

It's crappy , like I said , but he better hunker down and be ready to take the incoming flak if he is going to fight this one to the end , it may be a long haul , it certainly is not going to be pretty, and the outcome of this firestorm will most likely not end in his favor.

Me personally,  After I garner as much national attention spot light on the issue I could muster,  I would take the deal , pay the fine , and negotiate my community service to hosting seminars to educate NY citizens on how crappy the gun laws are in the state and why they need to be changed.

Just an FYI side note : lucky he was not tagged in Massachusetts  -
Massachusetts has enacted one of the most restrictive gun laws in the Nation imposing a mandatory one year jail sentence for anyone illegally possessing a firearm, loaded or unloaded, ``on his person or under his control in a vehicle.''
They only allow non-residents to bring handguns into the state for competition, exhibition or hunting.

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Re: Marine refuses plea deal in nyc gun case.
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 05:50:30 AM »
The founders are rolling over in their graves.
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Re: Marine refuses plea deal in nyc gun case.
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 06:56:21 AM »
Sounds like some think I don't like jarheads, or don't support them. They're confused, often and thoroughly.


NY and NYC gun laws suck, and they suck for everyone across the board.
they do

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Or perhaps with enough national attention NYC may just want it to all go away quietly if it is in NYC political best interest. But I seriously doubt it,  and they may do just the opposite hold this marine up as an example all are treated equally under NYC law.
I doubt it to. Generally, I like Christie of NJ, I was glad to see him give 'clemency' to Brian Aitken... but I think Christie wussied out. What he should have done, was push to have the law changed. He didn't. He sucks.
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Just an FYI side note : lucky he was not tagged in Massachusetts  -
Massachusetts has enacted one of the most restrictive gun laws in the Nation imposing a mandatory one year jail sentence for anyone illegally possessing a firearm, loaded or unloaded, ``on his person or under his control in a vehicle.''
They only allow non-residents to bring handguns into the state for competition, exhibition or hunting.
Massachusetts sucks, too.
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Re: Marine refuses plea deal in nyc gun case.
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 09:32:56 AM »
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Massachusetts sucks, too.

It sure does, I wish my mother would leave that state so I'd never have to go there again.
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