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.270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« on: February 22, 2012, 12:37:44 PM »
I just put in an order for a new deer rifle.  I've been looking at different ammo and narrowed it down to these two.  I don't reload so it will be factory ammo.


Shots could range from 10 yards up to 150 yards. 


I'm leaning towards the Silvertips because they are easier to get in my area and are cheaper.  My only concern is how well will these bullets hold up on a 10 yard shot?  Or hard quartering shot?


I would appreciate any and all feedback.




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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 12:45:58 PM »
I would use 150 gr. Nosler partition or any weight X-Bullet factory load without a doubt! Anything else I know of, other than Bear claws or trophy bonded,   probably won't make it out the other side unless broadside -Muddy

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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 03:48:32 PM »
Either one, find out which one your rifle likes. Nosler has toughened up the Bal. Tip alot in the last few years. I killed some winter before last with BT's in a 300WM, they did great & meat loss was not that bad. You just don't have to have a premium for Deer, I shoot an Accubond in my 270, only because it is the most accurate bullet in that tube.
 
 
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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 03:58:21 PM »
I wouldn't even spend the money on the Silvertips, I'd go even cheaper and shoot the Federal Power-shok. They're the cheapest around, at least around me. Usually 4-5 bucks a box less than Rem. Core lokt or Win.PP and will kill deer just as dead at any range you can hit them, plus they shot better than anything else for me.  That was what I shot in my 270 and 243s before I started handloading.
 The only one shot with the 270 was at 30 yards head on, hit at the point of the neck and shoulder, it didn't come out but everything from the heart to the liver was jelly.
  In the 243 I took deer from 30 to 150 yards with the Federals, went through all of them.
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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 04:29:38 PM »
I would let the rifle tell me.
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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 07:47:05 PM »
Either will do fine if you can use the 150 grain bullets.
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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 12:58:47 AM »
ANY!!! 130-150 grain bullet out of a 270 out to 300 yards. At 10 yards ANY of them are going to tear up meat if you hit right on a shoulder. Hit behind the shoulder and youll most likely just ruin the ribs. You surely dont need a 150 to kill whitetail and at 10 yards the differnce in the meat it will ruin compared to a 130 is minor. Lots of elk have been killed with 130 cup and core bullets out of 270s. they sure will work on little whitetail. Best advice was allready given. Use the one that shoots the best.
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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2012, 05:04:24 AM »
The 130 will  kill any deer you shoot.  Sierra makes a 140 that shoots very well in my 700.  I'd use it for 300-400 yds, assuming you know in advance where your shot will appear.

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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 06:23:50 AM »
The Silver Tips have been extremely accurate in all my rifles and calibers.........expensive though............

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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 10:06:37 AM »
Done a lot of deer shooting with a 270. 130 gr bullets are made for deer. 140 gr are a bit tougher bullet and 150 gr is made for big game like elk. The Silver tip or ballistic tip is a great deer killing bullet. But like has been said for what your stated use is any 130 gr bullet that shoots accurate will do just fine. You do your part and the 130 gr 270 bullet will do it's part. That cheap Federal ammo really shoots well in everything I have ever tried it in. I do a lot of sighting in of rifles for a gun store and that is the ammo the owner send me to the range with.

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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 11:04:29 AM »
Since I handload, my favorite bullet in the .270 is the 140 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip.    The Sierra 130 grain spirepoint would be my 2nd choice.    Both perform well on deer.
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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 01:35:56 PM »
 I've been using a .270 Win for 15+ years and most any 130 gr bullets will work best. But any 130 -160 grain bullet will work. Even 110 gr bullets will with proper shot placement. A 130 bullet behind the shoulder equals a dead deer within 5 yards.
I avoid hard quartering away shots and Texas heart shots, my deer season is almost 3 months long and there is always another day.

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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2012, 05:19:04 AM »
The 150 grain bullets are just better for several reasons.  Better penetration for hard angles, less meat destruction but at under 50 yards and not being able to pick your shot your going to tear up some meat. I had some pretty poor bullet performances using 130 grain bullets at woods ranges on Texas deer and just stopped using them.  It is hard to improve on either Remingtons round nose or Winchesters Power point in 150 grains for what you need. I reccomend the latter to all who use factory ammo as a first try round.
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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2012, 06:12:07 AM »
Can't you get Rem CoreLokts in your area??
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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2012, 12:48:47 PM »
Per rickt300 I started out recommending as above w/ Nosler PT's or X's cause the question had to do with very short range and/or hard quartering angles. I am still of the opinion that I would use nothing less under those conditions but had also thought that the use of a factory managed recoil or reduced load using cup n cores would also probably work but at no more than about 2400 FPS or so on deer and would use Sierra Game Kings (flat base) or Speer Hot Cores if I were to load them down and they shoot plenty flat to the 150 yd limit indicated.-Muddy

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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2012, 04:30:04 PM »
Per rickt300 I started out recommending as above w/ Nosler PT's or X's cause the question had to do with very short range and/or hard quartering angles. I am still of the opinion that I would use nothing less under those conditions but had also thought that the use of a factory managed recoil or reduced load using cup n cores would also probably work but at no more than about 2400 FPS or so on deer and would use Sierra Game Kings (flat base) or Speer Hot Cores if I were to load them down and they shoot plenty flat to the 150 yd limit indicated.-Muddy

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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2012, 02:43:44 PM »
I shot my buck this year with a 130gr. silvertip and was very impressed with the performance, right thru the ribs at about 165 yds and complete pass thru with double the caliber expansion from the looks of the entrance and exit holes.  Was going to go to the accubond but after what I saw will continue to load the silvertips.
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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2012, 07:41:43 AM »
The two bullets listed are almosy identical, ecept for teh bonded bullet.
I have shot both and I would always go with a bonded bullet.  They stay together better and give me better performance o allmy deer.
 

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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2012, 09:57:31 AM »
I reload for my .270......and, my favorite bullet is.....yes....the Remington Corelots...
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Re: .270 ballistic silvertips or accubond ct for deer?
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2012, 07:12:42 PM »
I wonder it is only me that asks just how did our fore bears manage with cup and core bullets in such cartridges after all the 270 Winchester has only been around for 86 years.


Yes bullets have improved in precision and performance but the 270 Winchester is not a hyper velocity cartridge in fact it's performance velocity wise seems to have stayed about where it was introduced at ......................................... strange that when others of similar age have been improved  ??? .


I did try some federal Fusion 150 Grn through my 270 Winchester as the local shop had them at a very good price and they shot well and performed well on the Roe Buck I used one on ............................ no complaints there it expanded even on the about 50-60lb buck. Yep they are light compared to your deer. Shot was about 100 yards or so. Normally I would use the Sierra 140 grn bullet in a handload. Normal cup and core and well they just work.


I used to use the 130 grain Nosler Solid base until they dropped them  :'( .