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Ignorant people!!! I would love to see this guy lose everything.
« on: February 25, 2012, 03:44:00 PM »
Ignorant people!!! I would love to see this guy lose everything. Dale
Banker Leaves 1% Tip On $133 Lunch Bill In Defiance of 'The 99%' 
First Posted: 02/24/2012  5:39 pm Updated: 02/24/2012 10:50 pm                                                                A banker left a 1% tip in defiance of 'the 99%' at a Newport Beach restaurant the other week, according to his dining companion and underling who snapped a photo of the receipt and  posted it to his blog, Future Ex Banker. (Update: the blog is now offline.)
In posting the photo, the employee gave some background on his boss and the receipt:
Mention the “99%” in my boss’ presence and feel his wrath. So proudly does he wear his 1% badge of honor that he tips exactly 1% every time he feels the server doesn’t sufficiently bow down to his Holiness. Oh, and he always makes sure to include a “tip” of his own.
The "tip" of his own in this case was to tell the server to "get a real job." Pleasant.
The whistleblower's Future Ex-Banker blog (now offline) included additional background on his boss, and some insight into why he would out his gross behavior, likely resulting in an employment status of current ex-banker:
I work in the corporate office of a major bank for a boss who represents everything wrong with the financial industry: blatant disregard and outright contempt for everyone and everything he deems beneath him. On top of that, he’s a complete and utter tool. At the same time, I’m still cashing paychecks, an admittedly willing—albeit reluctant—cog in the wheel of this increasingly ugly industry, so I’ve created this blog as a confessional of sorts. It won’t entirely clear my conscience, but hopefully it’ll help. I’m sure I’ll get fired eventually. Until then, enjoy.
UPDATE: In a conversation with the Huffington Post, Mike Wilcox, the vice president of operations for True Food Kitchen, gave some insight into how the company was treating the incident since the receipt began receiving attention online. Wilcox said that the restaurant was "absolutely" treating the receipt as real, but to confirm its authenticity for certain, they were in the process of tracking down both the physical receipt at the restaurant and the computer-generated copy in their credit card system. 
"The first thing we're going to do is to make sure the server is taken care of," Wilcox said, "and make sure the server wasn't treated badly or insufficiently tipped." He explained that they would be asking Breanna, the server named on the receipt, if she recalled the table and how her service was.   "If her service was up to the level" they assume their employees would deliver, Wilcox said, "they would do everything they can to make it up to her somehow." Referring to online comments posted about the receipt, Wilcox remarked, "people are asking us to ban the person from the restaurant -- if more information came through on who the person is I first would love to talk to him."
UPDATE II: As many have noted, a true 1% tip correctly rounded to the nearest penny would have been  $1.34, leaving this tip just shy of that threshold, mathematically speaking.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2012, 06:16:56 PM »
You must be really bored out there in Texas Dale.


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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2012, 06:39:59 PM »
Bwah. I don't get a tip a lot of the time, either, and I work in a profession where the IRS expects me to report a "normal" level of 'em.
I still don't believe that a gratuity is, or should be, part of my wage. It's purely an extra amount of money offered as thanks for good or great service. If it's required, it becomes a tax, or a fee... not a gratuity.

I enjoy offering good service, and I really like it when I receive a generous tip. One more often leads to the other, and if I had the attitude that every customer "owed" me such, then... well, that's an attitude I can't really balance with my philosophy.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2012, 07:53:29 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 01:41:05 AM »
Oh come on!  The guy's a tool.  The world is full of them.  Without them we would have no one to ridicule but ourselves.  It makes good fodder for the masses though.  B**ch-slap Flavor of the Week.

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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 02:00:58 AM »
The guy leaving one percent and a nasty comment is just an out-and-out jerk.
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 02:07:48 AM »
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You must be really bored out there in Texas Dale.

 ;D    ;D    ;D   Spot on!, Mr. GB!  ;)
 
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 02:23:06 AM »
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The guy leaving one percent and a nasty comment is just an out-and-out jerk.

Oh really !!??  My dad did something like that once, to a really biitchee, lousy server chick in a posh resturarnt in Atlanta.  That was in October 1979, yellowtail.
 
My pops was a Commander in the Navy at the NARF in Pensacola at the time.  Does it also pzz you off that my pops was a Cdr and an officer as well as leaving a one cent tip!!??
 
The server-chick went out of her way to be surly, rude and ina generally bad mood because of whatever was bothering her before we even arrived at the resturant!  And my pops didn't have cash and was going to already pay with a credit card anyway.  I mentioned to him they might try to add a "gratuity" when he wasn't going to leave any kind of a tip!  So my dad deliberately wrote on the receipt he had to sign, that any tip was not to exceed "one cent!"  Besides preventing from getting ripped off, it was hoped the management would notice the problem and confront the 'chick!'
 
It took a lot to pzz off my pops whenever we were in public, and that whole meal was quite unpleasant from MANY things that sever did repeatedly (6X or more, poorly and rudely).
 
Good for that 'one percenter!'  ;D

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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 02:41:12 AM »
If I get good service, I tip 20% which usually gets me even better service next time.
waiting tables is a rough job. besides the physical part, putting up with jerks is demeaning to another human.
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 02:51:01 AM »
Cougar, your father may well have been right to leave a one cent tip because of the server's rudeness.  In the original article we see the 'tip' to the banker's server was that she should 'get a real job'.  That doesn't sound like he got bad service, that sounds like he thinks that waitresses are beneath him.  Just because you saw an instance where little or no tip was the right thing does not mean that this guy is the man you father is.  I think that connecting this guy with your father's memory may be an emotional knee jerk reaction and likely not a correct association.

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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2012, 02:51:53 AM »
I guess I'm a bigger dweeb. I never give any tips. I don't go to restaurants with wait staff. The reason is that price is already high, and adding 20% to that just doesn't make sense. Portion sizes are gargantuan and quality is just assembly line factory stuff. It's just not worth any money to go. Also, the fast food places have caught up with and surpassed the quality of most wait-staff type restaurants that serve similar foods.  For example, Panera and Hardees.



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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2012, 02:55:55 AM »
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The guy leaving one percent and a nasty comment is just an out-and-out jerk.
Oh really !!??
Yes, really. Just as I wrote: an out-and-out jerk. Definitely.
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My pops was a Commander in the Navy at the NARF in Pensacola at the time.  Does it also pzz you off that my pops was a Cdr and an officer as well as leaving a one cent tip!!??
No, doesn't pzz me off, and why would it? I'm former navy, and my Dad is a retired USN officer, too. What prompted yer odd question?
Perhaps the server did give particularly poor service, in which case the tip might not be too far off, but the comment left was pure asshattery, indicating nastiness and piss-poor character.
If I get good service, I tip 20% which usually gets me even better service next time. waiting tables is a rough job. besides the physical part, putting up with jerks is demeaning to another human.
(shrug) I agree with Bugeye.
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2012, 03:05:00 AM »
I can certainly understand the banker's sentiments toward the entitlement mentality of what he attributes to the "99 %."  This is just one more reprehensible result of the "occupy movement" and while it might not be fair to allow his disgust to be aimed at the wait staff of the restaurant, I can understand his frustration.  On the other hand, it might just be a convenient excuse for being a tightwad.  And the banker has every right to be a tightwad.
 
I don't mind leaving a tip for service over and above average but the idea that there is a certain level of gratuity that you are expected to comply with regardless of the quality of service is enough to cause me to bag the whole thing.  Maybe I should have been a banker.
 
Dale, do you mean the banker should be cut loose, or that he should lose everything, just because he isn't a great tipper?
 
 
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2012, 03:09:20 AM »
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..... I think that connecting this guy with your father's memory may be an emotional knee jerk reaction and likely not a correct association.

you might have a point JLW.
 
however most 'executives' or professionals I've known worked damm hard all their lives and sacrificed LOTS (along with their spouses and children) to finally get to their successes.  And if any of them might have a knee-jerk response sometime, I'm way more inclined to give them a benefit of doubt versus some anarchist-thug or bum.  ;)
 
and anyone who thinks the world owes then anything .... I have a very low tolerance.  :o 

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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2012, 03:26:24 AM »
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No, doesn't pzz me off, and why would it? I'm former navy, and my Dad is a retired USN officer, too. What prompted yer odd question?
Perhaps the server did give particularly poor service, in which case the tip might not be too far off, but the comment left was pure asshattery, indicating nastiness and piss-poor character.

 ???   THANKS for your service Yellowtail.  I mistakenly concluded that you were an enlistee who hates officers, and apparently was wrong.  I apologize.
 
But we'll have to agree to disagree on the parts we disagree on.  ;)
 
'asshattery' ....?   :D   Can I borrow that "noun" sometime?  Good luck to ya.

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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2012, 03:38:11 AM »
when me and yt3 agree on something, does that mean there is hope for the world?
I hope so......
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2012, 04:08:29 AM »
there  will  ALWAYS  be a richest 1%
no matter how far you drag  society down
SOME ONE has to be the richest 1%
and the other 99%  will be poorer
so the richer the top 1% is...the richer the rest will be


WHY IS IT NO ONE ATTACKS THE RESTAURANT OWNER?????
is he  not paying minimum wage??...is he using some LOOPHOLE not to pay?


why is a tip based on food price  not service rendered????
why not set a price and sell it  for agreed price?
waiter  offers a service  and gets  upset  when customer doesn't  think the same way they do!
i don't like the ''tip system''......so  i avoid that situation...
[but  i do tip....because  i understand the society we live in]
i just think  waiters should get a wage proportional to job performance
 like any other job......and a tip is their bonuses
any thing else  is exploitation by the restaurant

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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2012, 04:29:15 AM »
I think that the banker did this in protest (obviously 1% tip), I think he has a just as much a right to protest, when he feels he was wronged. Just as much as the other 99%. He didnt do any damage, unlike the 99% protesting.
 
 The waiter or waitress are not entitled to the bankers money they have to earn it just like anyone else, in this type of job you get paid for your performance, so you better perform well or get a new job, I believe this is more then likely indicated by the written tip.

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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2012, 04:34:23 AM »
his written tip of "get a real job" puts him squarely in the ranks of "low lifes".
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2012, 04:45:49 AM »
his written tip of "get a real job" puts him squarely in the ranks of "low lifes".

I'll agree with this. Not only is waiting tables often hard work, it's also a common way for students to help pay their way through school while working their way to something better. My agreement is moot, however, if the waiter/tress is being a jerk in the first place, though.

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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2012, 07:40:30 AM »
Tipping is a frequent source of disagreement between the wife and me.  I can not be convinced that it is correct to TIP a certain percentage of the tab, I usually tip according to the quality of service I get, recently in an upscale restaurant with a bill over $65.00 I left a TIP of $1.00, the cashier noticed and ask if everything was alright, I answered no and told her why as the wife tried to drag me out the door. But by the same token I have left a very generous TIP when prompt service and attention is provided.

I realize that slow to fill orders and bad food are not the fault of the waiter, but the kitchen staff so I don’t downgrade the TIP if the waiter tried.

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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2012, 01:29:17 PM »

Dale, do you mean the banker should be cut loose, or that he should lose everything, just because he isn't a great tipper?
I don't feel you should tip for bad service but I don't think that is the case here. I think the waiter did not wow the banker enough or kiss his ass enough. I think the banker just feels he is with in the top 1% of the richest people in the country and his poop don't stink and he is better than the other 99% of the other people in this country. I would like to see him loose all his money just so he would be humbled and maybe have to wait tables himself. Dale
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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2012, 01:40:37 PM »
Having lived outside the country for some years I have a completely unamerican idea about tipping. Its not a given around the world, in fact in some countries a 5% tip is like winning the lottery. A tip is for service above the minimum. I tip often and I tip well (20% on average), but I don't automatically tip. Of course I'd never write a sarcastic comment on the bill, or catch the wait staff flat footed either - they know how well they're doing before they bring the bill. Service is an honorable profession, takes the right mix of personality and work ethic, and should never be undervalued. Usually poor servers themselves do not value their current job, and therefore do not take pride in their work.
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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2012, 02:27:18 PM »
Dale, if you're going to call the guy ignorant (which you did), you might want to make sure you understand that "loose" and "lose" are two completely different words.

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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2012, 02:36:36 PM »
I usually tip pretty well, depending on the price of the restaurant I guess. Usually 20%, but if the restaurant is really expensive I have a hard time giving someone a 50 dollar tip for the same amount of work a waitress does in a cheaper restaurant for a 20 dollar tip so the percentage will drop a little to maybe 15%.
I also have no problem whatsoever with leaving no tip at all if the service is terrible. It's gotta get pretty bad though but I have done it once or twice. I had a really bad waiter once, he was new and overwhelmed, I tipped him pretty good anyway. But I did tell him he should ask for help instead of telling his boss he was fine and messing up peoples dinners.
 
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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2012, 02:50:21 PM »
Dale, if you're going to call the guy ignorant (which you did), you might want to make sure you understand that "loose" and "lose" are two completely different words.

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I guess you have never mistakenly spelled a word wrong. Excuse me I will fix it now because I would not want to offend you. Have a nice day! Dale
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2012, 02:50:59 PM »
Dale, if you're going to call the guy ignorant (which you did), you might want to make sure you understand that "loose" and "lose" are two completely different words.

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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2012, 02:53:10 PM »
Hah, Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of grammar!
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2012, 03:17:36 PM »
I say, loose the dogs of grammar.

The original Shakespearean language is "let slip," the mis-quoted version is "let loose," and there are no versions that say only "loose."

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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2012, 03:26:36 PM »
Hah, Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of grammar!

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