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Wyoming Considers Secession
« on: February 26, 2012, 09:56:05 AM »
The State of Wyoming is considering a "doomsday" bill that provides for continuity of government in the State of Wyoming in the event of the collapse of the US Government.  It provides for Wyoming to issue its own currency and other measures.  This is  a stunning development.   It's nice to see that some white people are on the ball.

http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/wyoming-house-advances-doomsday-bill/article_af6e1b2b-0ca4-553f-85e9-92c0f58c00bd.html

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Re: Wyoming Considers Secession
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 12:05:35 PM »
Man, do I love living in Wyoming.

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Re: Wyoming Considers Secession
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 12:14:59 PM »
I think your thread title is a bit misleading, I don't see any mention of secession.

There are two threads about this on another forum, and they are making a big deal about the aircraft carrier and military provisions. I thought it was just a democrat being sarcastic, but I look closer and see the amendment was offered by a Republican and it passed. Now I'm confused. Let me assure you if they launched an aircraft carrier in any Wyoming waters the water level would rise and cause major flooding. Maybe the amendment is supposed to be humor.

The guy that wrote the bill is from the town next door and the newspaper from there has not mentioned it at all. I hope this is a serious bill any State that did a little serious planning along these lines would be doing a great service to its citizens. Seems obvious to me that the Fed government is headed for hyper inflation.

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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 01:19:12 PM »
I think your thread title is a bit misleading, I don't see any mention of secession.

There are two threads about this on another forum, and they are making a big deal about the aircraft carrier and military provisions. I thought it was just a democrat being sarcastic, but I look closer and see the amendment was offered by a Republican and it passed. Now I'm confused. Let me assure you if they launched an aircraft carrier in any Wyoming waters the water level would rise and cause major flooding. Maybe the amendment is supposed to be humor.

The guy that wrote the bill is from the town next door and the newspaper from there has not mentioned it at all. I hope this is a serious bill any State that did a little serious planning along these lines would be doing a great service to its citizens. Seems obvious to me that the Fed government is headed for hyper inflation.

Sorry you think the title is misleading...but  such a challenge to the sovereignty of the US Gov't would be regarded as secession, even if accomplished without an ordinance of secession as occured in 1861. .    I saw part about the aircraft carrier and am well aware of Wyoming's landlocked status so it was kind of mystifying to me that an air craft carrier would be considered.   

The most important thing is that American people (exclusively white American people) are  beginning to think in terms of self preservation and are preparing  for the collapse of the bankrupt, tyrannical central government. As the article says, six other states have discussed the issue of their own currency.  I think that gold and sliver coins, in whatever denomination, issued by the states would serve a very useful purpose in maintaining commerce.  They could be produced in 1 Oz .1/2 Oz. and 1/4  Oz forms without even  identifying a denomination.  Their exchange value would be set by market conditions.  States have the budgets to acquire inventories of gold and silver and this would be a better way to spend their money than giving more welfare to minority parasites. Moreover, if the coins were not denominated as "Dollars" but just in Ounces, they are not technically "money" and would not violate the US Constitution, if this really matters.

Of course Wyoming is a comparatively small state with a huge majority white (gun owning)  population and they have a minimum of minority infested cities that  are nothing simply incubators for criminals and dysfunctional  mobs.

It would be great if the contiguous  white majority states such as Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Washington and the Dakotas could form a compact and pool their resources.  Except for Seattle, none of these states has any large "minority" populations and this, together with white majority gun owning, gun toting populations, will ensure domestic order with a minimum amount of problems.  They have huge natural resources and the ability to be food independent.   With a gold backed currency and hard working white majority populations, this compact would be a winning country of productive white people,  just like American used to be.   Interestingly enough,  Washington state has a tradition of computer and aerospace industries.   A great component of a new country.

States such as California, Illinois, and New York,  with huge minority infested  cities  are pretty much  lost causes. The presence of parasitic minorities  and their political clout pretty much precludes any action at the state level to survive the US' break up in those States.  In those states it will have to be local white majority counties, towns,  or whatever, coming together for their  survival.   

If things really break down, the big, bloated minority infested  cities will simply  have to starve.  Blow up one freeway interchange in Los Angeles and the whole area grinds to a halt.  If food can't be brought in, these cities will simply starve and  descend into riots, arson and looting.  I was in Los Angeles during the '92 Rodney King riots.  It was bad enough then.  Non-white savages ruled the city for three days until the National Guard was finally deployed, and they showed up without ammo for their rifles!  >:(   Most of Southern California i is no longer even recognizably American and a starve off of the  teeming millions of  "minorities  who now live there would free up Southern California for reclamation by vigorous, opportunistic white pioneers who might want to reclaim it after the starve offs make its seizure and resettlement  by white people possible.

  If parasitic urban hordes  spill out into the hinterlands, white gun owners will simply shoot them down.  Before we had "civil rights laws"  the right of people to defend themselves was called "Frontier justice."  It will once again prevail.   With the collapse of the central government, there will be no Civil Rights Division  of the Dept. of Justice to force parasitic minorities down our throats like in the 1950's when  so called "civil rights" laws were forced down our throats at bayonet point by the US military and Federal marshals. 

The break up of America is not only possible, it's probable.  The question is how fast and how thorough can the viable white  majority sections of the country organize to save themselves from the chaos that will reign in the large urban areas that will collapse when food and infrastructure collapse?    This most recent  proposal by Wyoming is merely the latest development.   More and more states are coming to grips with the reality that our Federal government is occupied by enemies of our country and our people and they  are not our friends, having sold out long ago to  alien minorities who rule over us. 

There are models for the break up of the USA, including the USSR and the post -WW2  British Empire.  These two super powers just collapsed and faded away into the night.   The same thing will happen to the USA.  If thinking, hard working white  Americans will just pool their efforts and form a union, they can save what's left of this failed country.  Cut off the food to the minority infested cities, and they'll starve and perish in epidemics.  The "minority problem" will simply solve itself in a Darwinian fashion.

 Although we're now a minority in our own country, that is not insurmountable.  Over the centuries, mere handfuls of brave resolute whites overcame overwhelming odds.  In 1519, Cortez landed in Mexico with 187 men and a dozen horses and within two years toppled the mighty Aztec empire and its teeming millions.  The break up of the USA will liberate our people and give them the chance to reassert their traditional courage and greatness in the absence of such mental illness as   "equality" and "political correctness."

 I look forward to the break up of the USA.  It will give well prepared real Americans the chance to take back their country.  A long hard battle, but attainable nonetheless.  We should accept this coming reality and plan and prepare for it accordingly.   

 

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Re: Wyoming Considers Secession
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 01:32:11 PM »
Surprised that the Continuity of Government Commission didn't make this recommendation to all states ... well not really. If the Federal Government actually saw itself within the constraints of the Constitution, they'd see it as their responsibility to warn states to be prepared for any threat, to include federal collapse. Of course, the Federal Government doesn't presently understand which part of the supported-supporting equation they're on.

Hats off to WY for thinking ahead! I noticed WY has a Free State movement, as does NH. Has WY also asserted its 10th amendment rights by rejected Federal encroachment on the 2nd Amendment within its borders?
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 01:57:17 PM »
Have you selected a name for your new K-K-Kountry?

Of course at least one person would respond this way. 

A funny thing about racial  relations.  Blacks and Hispanics openly proclaim how much they hate white people, even as they stream into our country and try to attach themselves as closely to white people and white institutions as they can. 

Whites, on the other hand, openly proclaim their belief in "equality" and their love for "minorities" and then they run away from them  as fast  as they can.  I know many whites who gush over with how much they love minorities, but they  all live in white majority neighborhoods and their kids attend white majority schools.  No fools they, even if they're  frauds about their true, gut feelings.   White people are forced to lie, even to themselves, because of the doctrine of political correctness  and the overwhelming political power of parasitic non-white minorities  Those days are closing.  Deep down inside, whites no more believe in "racial equality" any more than they believe a dime is equal to a dollar. "White flight"  is overwhelming conclusive evidence of this.   


Imagine a white majority country where  you didn't have to worry about  your kid being shot at school by some black or Hispanic gang banger or that your city would explode in riots because their favorite basketball team either won or lost, such as in Los Angeles?  (In Los Angeles the mayor and police chief went on TV and begged Hispanics not to riot after the Lakers basketball game.  They had 2,000 cops deployed and 200 "minorities" said "Screw You" and rioted anyway.  That's right!  Cops outnumbered the "minorities" by 10 to one and they just said Screw You and rioted anyway, knowing nothing meaningful would be done.  This is what it's like to live in a minority infested city. Non-white savages simply riot, loot and burn and pull people out of cars and beat the S.h.**t out of them anytime the chose because they know they have so much political power that gutless, cowardly Gringos will simply wring their hands and whine "Can't we all get along?" and "Please don't call me a racist." )  THESE DAYS ARE CLOSING! 

Imagine a white majority country where you can speak your mind and even say "Merry Christmas" in public and not worry about being fired from your job or being denounced for "Hate speech" or "racism" or "anti-Semitism."    No more groveling for these parasites.   Without white technical know-how and white soft headedness and sentimentality, they will die of starvation and epidemics.  That is nature's way and it's high time and past due that nature took its course.

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Re: Wyoming Considers Secession
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 03:05:45 PM »
bilmac, having met Kermit Brown I'ld about bet his diddy about buying the aircraft carrier was done mostly tonque in cheek.
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Re: Wyoming Considers Secession
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 04:15:23 PM »
But I can't understand why the amendment was passed as part of the bill, could it be that the legislature is considering this bill as just a big joke? I bet once people find out about it, the lawmakers will be informed that the citizens think that this bill may be one of the only truly useful things the legislature has done in awhile.

Also the money to be alloted seems kind of paltry, but we are conditioned to think that anything government does should cost big money. Reasonably , how much should it cost for a bunch of guys who are already drawing a government salary to sit down and do some brainstorming.

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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 04:23:50 PM »
I'm thinking the bill is real. Kermit just threw the other stuff in to be studied, for the fun of it.
The money doesn't need to be much to commission a study of being able to do the things layed out in the bill. It's not a secession bill, it's simply saying lets look at this and see where the state might stand if.....It'll have to make it thru the senate yet, and those guys are mostly a bunch of stodgers, so I wouldn't bet on this thing making it to Meads desk. (Wouldn't bet against it either)
 
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Re: Wyoming Considers Secession
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 05:47:47 PM »
I like it...every state should have such a contingency plan! Hurrah for Wyoming!
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2012, 05:59:30 PM »
So far our State government has been pretty much go along to get along with the Feds, but we have a new Republican governor now, and hopefully the legislature is getting a little scared by what they see the Feds doing. I hope this thing takes off.

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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2012, 12:57:53 AM »
for at least PART of the country to survive, that is a good start.
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2012, 04:58:26 AM »
Notice how states with this type of rational thinking and planning for the future  are invariably white majority states with huge numbers of gun owners. 

Just like colonial America in 1776.

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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2012, 07:56:12 AM »
Well dang no aircraft carrier ::)
Before passing House Bill 85 by a voice vote on second reading, lawmakers struck  out language directing the task force to study Wyoming instituting its own  military draft, raising a standing army, and acquiring strike aircraft and an  aircraft carrier

Read more: http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/doomsday-bill-moves-forward-minus-the-aircraft-carrier/article_00916968-6171-11e1-a45b-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz1nbsgr1n2
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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2012, 08:31:33 AM »
Well dang no aircraft carrier ::)
Before passing House Bill 85 by a voice vote on second reading, lawmakers struck  out language directing the task force to study Wyoming instituting its own  military draft, raising a standing army, and acquiring strike aircraft and an  aircraft carrier

Read more: http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/doomsday-bill-moves-forward-minus-the-aircraft-carrier/article_00916968-6171-11e1-a45b-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz1nbsgr1n2

Its just as well, it'd take 1/2 the state to crew it, and the other half to dig a channel over from Everrett.
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Re: Wyoming Considers Secession
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2012, 09:13:36 AM »
 ;D I figured they'ld probably bring two. float one up the Platte, and the other up the Snake.That'ld keep both sides of the state covered. :D
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2012, 02:36:25 PM »
Notice how states with this type of rational thinking and planning for the future  are invariably white majority states with huge numbers of gun owners. 

Just like colonial America in 1776.
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2012, 06:54:07 PM »
I get the news paper from the town where the guy who introduced to bill lives. So far the paper has only printed one paragraph about the bill. That was about how the aircraft carrier portion of the bill has been dropped. Now talk about media bias, The story about the bill is being discussed on the internet all over the country, and the hometown paper of the guy who introduced it hasn't written a story.  Ah but he is a Republican why should I be surprised.

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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2012, 03:47:00 AM »
 Casper Star and Cheyenne Tribune have had plenty about it. along with K2 radio and others,such as the Wyoming News Network feeds on most of the local radio stations.
The only reason it's gathered so much internet interest is most of the things such as this thread are misreading what the bill is actually about.The various TeaParty websites picked up on it as well.
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2012, 05:48:47 AM »
Ranch 13 Quasnie and other Wyomingites

I have written E-Mails to Congressman Miller and Congresswoman Querberg offering to help get the bill passed. My computer skills are limited so doing group E-Mails ect will be a problem for me. Could anyone else help out if the Congress people ask for it.

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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2012, 06:24:33 AM »
bilmac go here http://legisweb.state.wy.us/LSOWeb/Session/SessionHome.aspx You can track all the bills, there should also be an email link to your rep, and senator.
Group mails won't do as much good as you contacting your rep in the house and the senate expressing support of not of any given bill. Keep it shortnsweet and to the point.
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2012, 06:33:34 AM »
Rep Miller has responded. The bill is HB85. It is on it's third reading in the house today. I agree that a bunch of form letters don't do much good with lawmakers. Come on folks we can at least send some E-mails, soonest possible , the vote is today. I am going to emphasize the wide spread interest in the bill. There are several threads about it on The Survivalist Boards. Let me know if you know of other places.

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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2012, 07:45:10 AM »
Thanks to Wyoming's brave legislators and to the  patriots on this board who support them.  I live in Mexican occupied California.  We are a political subdivision of Mexico and our state government is in the control of the enemy.  We are occupied territory.

DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN TO YOU.   THANK GOD FOR YOUR PATRIOTISM.

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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2012, 07:56:12 AM »
We're lucky here, we don't have the problems with lawmakers that other states with higher populations do. Heck here it's pretty likely you may either know the legislature or his parents or inlaws etc personally, let alone played basketball or wrestled , or was in FFA or such with them.
 Folks with weird ideas ,if they make the election they don't last for more than a term or two...
Where we do have problems is with the bureacrats that seem to migrate here from somewhere else, and get hired into state government, those are the ones that it's hard to get straightened out.
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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2012, 06:12:25 PM »

Where we do have problems is with the bureacrats that seem to migrate here from somewhere else, and get hired into state government, those are the ones that it's hard to get straightened out.

Those are called varmints.
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« Reply #25 on: February 29, 2012, 04:12:53 AM »
Alaska was talking secession back when Sarah Palin was Governor.  Many of us still are. 

Being geographically separated Alaska and Hawaii stand a far better chance than any of the other states.  If the government crashes, Alaska can survive.  Most of our trade is with the Far East anyway, not the lower 48.  We could survive, where the rest of the States would flounder since few states have ports, and those that do produce little themselves.  And with the EPA out of our hair we could produce much more.  We have huge deposits of Copper, Molybednum, Lead, iron, Gold, Silver, Zinc, Coal, Oil, Gas, and those Rare Earth Minerals we are currently getting from China.   

Alaska currently exports Coal, Barley, Oil, Timber, Fish, and other products in smaller quantities.  Asian Tourism is big as well.  We could survive alone, can the rest of the states?
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« Reply #26 on: February 29, 2012, 04:22:15 AM »
Wyoming isn't talking secession now and hasn't talked secession except for a little bit around 77 when Gov. Herschler told Jimmy Carter if he didn't get his head pulled out , the state would shutdown the oil and gas lines, stop the coal trains and take the exits off of the interstate.
 This bill was simply an appropriation of 16000$ to commission a study of what would need to be done in the event of a total collapse of the US Government. It failed yesterday on it's 3rd reading by 3 votes.
 Case closed, it's all over unless and until they decide to try it next year, and that's liable to depend on how the election goes this fall.
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« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2012, 04:24:18 AM »
The bill failed on 3d reading today.

Hard to imagine that the legislators that we elect because we think they are smarter than everybody else will just stick their heads in the sand and pretend that the Fed gvt. is not headed for big trouble.

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« Reply #28 on: February 29, 2012, 04:28:00 AM »
Well they may have decided not to spend the 16K$ on it, and just have Homeland Security look into it in the first place. That's what the position of Homeland Security director is supposed to be doing, and why we have 23 county Homeland Security directors. Be a dang shame to make those beuracrats actully do something to earn their paychecks and state pensions....
Here's the bill as it was presented, it is nowhere near what some folks think it was, but you can read it and decide for yourself.
http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2012/Introduced/HB0085.pdf
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« Reply #29 on: February 29, 2012, 04:50:32 AM »
Secession is a really good idea--especially if you'd like to see 3/4 of the infrastructure around you destroyed and 1/2 of the people around you dead.  One platoon of Marines could eliminate all of the secessionists in Wyoming.  Actually, the NORMAL Wyoming residents would eliminate all the secessionists about one month after Social Security checks and other government money stopped.